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I mean, again, Redmond Martin is clearly a good source considering he WAS accurate with the other names - and what makes Reality Blurred a non-legitimate source? All other such seasons, like Caramoan and Blood vs. Water, have similar sections detailing candidates who were cut, so why not this one? 169.231.59.50 ( talk) 21:56, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
Can we start to consider Redmond as a reliable source now? I mean, he obviously has a great track record and now has his own website. What makes Reality Blurred and Dalton Ross reliable sources, but not Redmond? ~ Totaldramaman ( talk · contribs) 23:28, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
Someone had put past season placement in the contestant table, then someone reverted it, then I put it back in, and then someone else removed it again. I have left it alone, but it seems worthwhile to put in there (though it is not in there for All-Stars or HvV). I was wondering if anyone else can share their sentiments? Thegreyanomaly ( talk) 20:02, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
Contestant | Original tribe | Swapped tribe | Switched tribe | Merged tribe | Voted out | Redemption Island | Finish |
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Rupert Boneham 49, Indianapolis, Indiana Pearl Islands, 8th place All-Stars, 4th place Heroes vs. Villains, 6th place |
Galang | None [a] | Switched
[b] Day 1 |
Lost 1st duel Day 4 |
20th Day 4 |
My opinion is that it is unnecessary clutter. Their placing in their past season doesn't really mean anything in the seaon. It isn't like they are being ranked or given extra advantage by how they placed (though that would be interesting). It ends up being trivia. The placing should be removed out of the non-selected table for similar reasons; it doesn't matter where they placed as placing didn't factor in such as weighted voting. I seem to remember making a similar argument with past seasons, but I'm too lazy to look it up. -- Gogo Dodo ( talk) 20:32, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
Since we have details and since the 32nd season has taped already (Survivor: Cambodia will tape starting Friday). I don't think it hurts to leave an article open about next season, which will air in February 2016. VegasCasinoKid ( talk) 07:21, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
Why couldn't we keep this as the candidates table and then make a new cast table when CBS releases the pregame stuff on their site? There's bound to be new "official" info (i.e. ages [like Kelley's age being incorrect on the ballot. like, she was such a nobody that the people who put her on the ballot forgot that her damn birthday (/Rodney) was during the show.]).
And maybe add a column for if they've been eliminated/went through?
Name | Age | Hometown | Original season | Finish | Result |
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Joe Anglim | 25 | Scottsdale, Arizona | Worlds Apart | 10th | Pass |
Teresa "T-Bird" Cooper | 56 | Jackson, Georgia | Africa | 5th | Fail |
~ Totaldramaman ( talk · contribs) 19:29, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
How do you put in the colors for the new tribes?
http://www.planetbuff.com/survivor-31-cambodia-second-chance-angkor-tribe-butterscotch.html The Angkor tribe color and name has been leaked. What shade of yellow should we be using? Thegreyanomaly ( talk) 01:05, 1 October 2015 (UTC) style="background:#e8b60d;"|Angkor Looks like someone already made this. Thegreyanomaly ( talk) 01:26, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
Currently the article has the upcoming switch from two tribes to three tribes labelled as "Split tribes". however I think it should read "Switched tribe", assuming that the switch is entirely random and none of the original tribal divisions remain somewhat intact. For seasons that switched from three or four tribes to two, the switch is labelled as "Switched tribes" instead of "Absorbed tribes" or "Dissolved tribes" ( Survivor: Philippines and Survivor: All-Stars are exceptions, however in both of those seasons all members of one tribe were divided amongst the other two tribes, therefore the original tribes largely remained intact). Thoughts? OctoMocto ( talk) 02:01, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
Agree that the "switched tribe" is actually a split tribe which it introduced in this season, with the actual switch occurred in episode 6. Anyone will get a good correction. ApprenticeFan work 08:42, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
I don't know why the marooning challenge is not counted as a reward challenge in the table. Jeff Probst clearly said that it was "their first challenge", and it didn't look really different from the others, with Probst's usual running commentaries. The fact that Woo single-handedly won it for Ta Keo could be a deterrent, but I don't think it is the only tribal challenge in Survivor history that has been single-handedly won by a castaway. 92.155.140.224 ( talk) 20:05, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
As of this writing, there are spoilers on the page on an elimination before the episode in question has aired. Shouldn't this be removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.225.32.181 ( talk) 16:28, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
The promo that is cited on the page DOES NOT contain the identity of the player leaving. The episode description says a player leaves the game due to emergency, but DOES NOT say which player it is. The promo photos on the CBS website that I can find DO NOT show who leaves the game. Maybe there is something else that does, but that's a bullshit policy to put that kind of thing on here a week before it happens. It's now turned what I found to be a useful resource into a page I and others will have to avoid for fear of being spoiled. Great work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.163.23.48 ( talk) 17:48, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
I don't know how to format replies here so I apologize in advance for whatever havoc this wreaks on the thread, however, I just wanted to come back tonight to tell you what a fucking asshole you are. After I made my post I intentionally avoided both the wiki page and this talk page for the rest of the season in case some wise-ass decided to respond to my post with actual spoilers, and it looks like I made a good call. You not only posted a link to a mostly-accurate boot list (which requires me to click it, so fair enough, I wouldn't have been spoiled by that directly), but then you go ahead and post what you essentially knew was a spoiler for the next episode, based on the accuracy of the list that far. What is your problem? Like I said before, I'll have to avoid Wikipedia when seasons are airing now because of people like you. Disappointing for sure, but better than letting assholes ruin the show for me.
CBS says there is a quitter, and their preview whether they intended or not shows that it is Terry. You are in the minority. I am not the only one advocating the spoiler, @ Katanin:, @ ApprenticeFan:, @ OctoMocto:, @ TheDevin13:, @ Zjzr:, @ Totaldramaman:, @ Not David Brown:, and others have all made edits pertaining to the quit or reverted vandals removing the quit. CBS has released the fact that Terry quits based on the content of the preview they made. As for the tribe swap, the promotional images referenced show the indicate who is the Bayon and the video of the next challenge from one of the previews show that the other tribe is Ta Keo (and not Angkor). Thegreyanomaly ( talk) 23:43, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
First, saying that "so and so quit because they're not in a photo" is original research based on a primary source. No. Second, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia not a news site. If we just wait a freakin' day or two and insert it or not when the actual episode airs, the sum of all human knowledge will not suffer too terribly. Chill out and leave it alone. Volunteer Marek 03:16, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
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. If you look back at that the aftermath of that there was a Village Pump discussion on the matter to ban using promo materials, and it went nowhere. IIRC, there was some consensus that "spoiling" tribal rearrangements is kosher. The Terry quitting thing is a new territory, I admit (but so was the rock situation). The fact of the matter is, WP:SPOILERS is a community-wide consensus that cannot be overrode by a local decision to IAR. Take another go at the Village Pump if you are so dedicated. Anyways, it is approaching 1AM here. Gnite. Thegreyanomaly ( talk) 04:43, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
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From an essay on IAR. I don't know where you are getting the idea that IAR can't override a community-wide consensus. That's exactly what it can do, in my understanding. Good night. Survivorfan44 ( talk) 04:47, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
Finally we agree on something! [9] It has been previously argued at the Village Pump that previews are "protected" by WP:SPOILERS as well. Thegreyanomaly ( talk) 00:12, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
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Terry deitz needs to be placed out 15th. It is a spoiler with proof and theres no rules against it. Put that he is pulled out at day ? Nyancat23 ( talk) 23:02, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
Here's a pic of all 4 buffs together - https://instagram.com/p/9d78OqEmer/ - try to find a similar color! ~ Totaldramaman ( talk · contribs) 16:56, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Looking over the previous seasons for terminology: "Switched" has been used to describe:
-"Absorbed" has been used to describe
We used "split" for the unprecedented 2-to-3. We have precedent for 3-to-2, and it seems "switched" is most appropriate. In this case we do not need a new term ("dissolved"). Thegreyanomaly ( talk) 20:52, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
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The merge tribe is called orkun http://insidesurvivor.com/2015/11/survivor-second-chance-episode-6-what-you-didnt-see/ Nyancat23 ( talk) 21:37, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
I think Orkun stribe template should have white text, not black. The black on orange is a bit painful to the eyes. Am I alone on this? Thegreyanomaly ( talk) 02:32, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
Done - text is white. Jeff said the 13 merge/10 jury is so that as many people as possible could stay in the game as long as possible.
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In light of the new "vote stealing" mechanic introduced tonight, here's a mock-up of how I think we should go about noting it, if and when it is used. Thoughts? My only question is if the reference is necessary in the stealer and stolen's rows, or only in the vote total? - Katanin ( talk) 02:27, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
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In the CONTESTANTS section it states that Terry Deitz was "Pulled from the game" on Day 13. This is not correct. Terry was informed by the crew that there was a medical issue at home and that the doctors and his wife recommended that he come home. It may sound harsh, but he quit the game to be with his family. He was not told he had to leave. He quit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clibat2 ( talk • contribs) 19:26, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
Jeff Probst said in interview that he had no choice and there was no discussion. He was leaving and that was it. 108.162.157.141 ( talk) 05:53, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
I figured that I would start this since I usually do not edit articles like this and ended up using the notes on past seasons to try to create one for this season. I was wondering if there could be a discussion on how to handle the Day 36 vote due to how many rules were used to resolve it. Currently, there are five notes about the vote. (A, B, C, H, and I) Considering the number, should we remove some of the notes or are all required to explain what happened? -- Super Goku V ( talk) 02:11, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
The table is wrong. After the first Kimmi-Tasha tie Jeff asks Spencer, Jeremy, Kelley and Keith if they're keeping their votes the same and all of them said yes. So they moved on to a deadlocked tie. Same situation as Blood vs Water. There, they agreed to let Kimmi go, so as far as I'm concerned it's not a 4-0 vote, it's not even a vote, just an unanimous agreement they had to make or Keith would've left. (Even if it was 3-1 at that point, Keith would have gotten the boot) -- Luisrafael7 ( talk) 04:03, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
I think note g should add what would happen if they could not agree on a unanimous vote. Something like if they could not agree after 2 minutes, Keith would be voted out by default as he was the only one eligible to draw rocks. 108.162.157.141 ( talk) 05:50, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
I think I know exactly what interview you are talking about and you are taking the statement out of context. There was no discussion means just that... we didn't discuss it. If I ask you if you like the color blue and you say "yes", then there is no discussion. It's doesn't mean I forced you to like the color blue. It means there was no discussion about it... It means is was an easy decision for you. Jeff actually said, "There was zero debate" if we are talking about the same interview. If we are not talking about the same interview, please post a link.
What needs to be considered is the countless other articles that say he was given the choice. The Terry Deitz Wiki says "Jeff Probst came to the Ta Keo camp and told Terry about his son's heart condition which made Terry pull himself out of the game to see his son." How can 2 wikis say 2 different things about the same event? The words "pull himself out of the game" are a bit more kind, but the fact is, he quit. Listen to his exit interview with Rob Cesternino... He quit. Read the Terry Deitz Wiki... He quit.... Read the CBS website description of events... he quit... Read the Survivor Rulebook... There is no stipulation that you can be forced to leave due to an event that occurs back home. He quit. Saying he didn't quit is just letting emotion dictate the history of events. He may have "had no choice", but the fact is he did have a choice... an easy one albeit... so he quit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clibat2 ( talk • contribs) 20:01, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. You just helped me prove my point... if the reunion show didn't already when Jeff Probst said... "you didn't even hesitate" which there in itself says that it was Terry's decision. Do I think it was really a choice? Yes, I do. It was an EASY choice, but it was a choice. I wrote that if you read the above posting. The thing is I go by the definition of words and for a page like this that is supposed to state the facts I don't let emotion or a misunderstanding of the English language cloud those facts. Every example you stated in comparison was a medical issue for the contestant. Is Terry a doctor? No. Was he the only person on this earth that could perform a life saving surgery so a court ordered he return home? No. He is a loving father that had to quit the game to be with his family. Would every single father in the world have done the same thing? No. There are messed up people out there, but even if 99.999% of people would have done the same thing, including myself, that doesn't mean you should change the facts and say he was pulled from the game because he wasn't pulled from the game. He quit. Look it up. It's in the dictionary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clibat2 ( talk • contribs) 04:26, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
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I mean, again, Redmond Martin is clearly a good source considering he WAS accurate with the other names - and what makes Reality Blurred a non-legitimate source? All other such seasons, like Caramoan and Blood vs. Water, have similar sections detailing candidates who were cut, so why not this one? 169.231.59.50 ( talk) 21:56, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
Can we start to consider Redmond as a reliable source now? I mean, he obviously has a great track record and now has his own website. What makes Reality Blurred and Dalton Ross reliable sources, but not Redmond? ~ Totaldramaman ( talk · contribs) 23:28, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
Someone had put past season placement in the contestant table, then someone reverted it, then I put it back in, and then someone else removed it again. I have left it alone, but it seems worthwhile to put in there (though it is not in there for All-Stars or HvV). I was wondering if anyone else can share their sentiments? Thegreyanomaly ( talk) 20:02, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
Contestant | Original tribe | Swapped tribe | Switched tribe | Merged tribe | Voted out | Redemption Island | Finish |
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Rupert Boneham 49, Indianapolis, Indiana Pearl Islands, 8th place All-Stars, 4th place Heroes vs. Villains, 6th place |
Galang | None [a] | Switched
[b] Day 1 |
Lost 1st duel Day 4 |
20th Day 4 |
My opinion is that it is unnecessary clutter. Their placing in their past season doesn't really mean anything in the seaon. It isn't like they are being ranked or given extra advantage by how they placed (though that would be interesting). It ends up being trivia. The placing should be removed out of the non-selected table for similar reasons; it doesn't matter where they placed as placing didn't factor in such as weighted voting. I seem to remember making a similar argument with past seasons, but I'm too lazy to look it up. -- Gogo Dodo ( talk) 20:32, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
Since we have details and since the 32nd season has taped already (Survivor: Cambodia will tape starting Friday). I don't think it hurts to leave an article open about next season, which will air in February 2016. VegasCasinoKid ( talk) 07:21, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
Why couldn't we keep this as the candidates table and then make a new cast table when CBS releases the pregame stuff on their site? There's bound to be new "official" info (i.e. ages [like Kelley's age being incorrect on the ballot. like, she was such a nobody that the people who put her on the ballot forgot that her damn birthday (/Rodney) was during the show.]).
And maybe add a column for if they've been eliminated/went through?
Name | Age | Hometown | Original season | Finish | Result |
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Joe Anglim | 25 | Scottsdale, Arizona | Worlds Apart | 10th | Pass |
Teresa "T-Bird" Cooper | 56 | Jackson, Georgia | Africa | 5th | Fail |
~ Totaldramaman ( talk · contribs) 19:29, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
How do you put in the colors for the new tribes?
http://www.planetbuff.com/survivor-31-cambodia-second-chance-angkor-tribe-butterscotch.html The Angkor tribe color and name has been leaked. What shade of yellow should we be using? Thegreyanomaly ( talk) 01:05, 1 October 2015 (UTC) style="background:#e8b60d;"|Angkor Looks like someone already made this. Thegreyanomaly ( talk) 01:26, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
Currently the article has the upcoming switch from two tribes to three tribes labelled as "Split tribes". however I think it should read "Switched tribe", assuming that the switch is entirely random and none of the original tribal divisions remain somewhat intact. For seasons that switched from three or four tribes to two, the switch is labelled as "Switched tribes" instead of "Absorbed tribes" or "Dissolved tribes" ( Survivor: Philippines and Survivor: All-Stars are exceptions, however in both of those seasons all members of one tribe were divided amongst the other two tribes, therefore the original tribes largely remained intact). Thoughts? OctoMocto ( talk) 02:01, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
Agree that the "switched tribe" is actually a split tribe which it introduced in this season, with the actual switch occurred in episode 6. Anyone will get a good correction. ApprenticeFan work 08:42, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
I don't know why the marooning challenge is not counted as a reward challenge in the table. Jeff Probst clearly said that it was "their first challenge", and it didn't look really different from the others, with Probst's usual running commentaries. The fact that Woo single-handedly won it for Ta Keo could be a deterrent, but I don't think it is the only tribal challenge in Survivor history that has been single-handedly won by a castaway. 92.155.140.224 ( talk) 20:05, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
As of this writing, there are spoilers on the page on an elimination before the episode in question has aired. Shouldn't this be removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.225.32.181 ( talk) 16:28, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
The promo that is cited on the page DOES NOT contain the identity of the player leaving. The episode description says a player leaves the game due to emergency, but DOES NOT say which player it is. The promo photos on the CBS website that I can find DO NOT show who leaves the game. Maybe there is something else that does, but that's a bullshit policy to put that kind of thing on here a week before it happens. It's now turned what I found to be a useful resource into a page I and others will have to avoid for fear of being spoiled. Great work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.163.23.48 ( talk) 17:48, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
I don't know how to format replies here so I apologize in advance for whatever havoc this wreaks on the thread, however, I just wanted to come back tonight to tell you what a fucking asshole you are. After I made my post I intentionally avoided both the wiki page and this talk page for the rest of the season in case some wise-ass decided to respond to my post with actual spoilers, and it looks like I made a good call. You not only posted a link to a mostly-accurate boot list (which requires me to click it, so fair enough, I wouldn't have been spoiled by that directly), but then you go ahead and post what you essentially knew was a spoiler for the next episode, based on the accuracy of the list that far. What is your problem? Like I said before, I'll have to avoid Wikipedia when seasons are airing now because of people like you. Disappointing for sure, but better than letting assholes ruin the show for me.
CBS says there is a quitter, and their preview whether they intended or not shows that it is Terry. You are in the minority. I am not the only one advocating the spoiler, @ Katanin:, @ ApprenticeFan:, @ OctoMocto:, @ TheDevin13:, @ Zjzr:, @ Totaldramaman:, @ Not David Brown:, and others have all made edits pertaining to the quit or reverted vandals removing the quit. CBS has released the fact that Terry quits based on the content of the preview they made. As for the tribe swap, the promotional images referenced show the indicate who is the Bayon and the video of the next challenge from one of the previews show that the other tribe is Ta Keo (and not Angkor). Thegreyanomaly ( talk) 23:43, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
First, saying that "so and so quit because they're not in a photo" is original research based on a primary source. No. Second, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia not a news site. If we just wait a freakin' day or two and insert it or not when the actual episode airs, the sum of all human knowledge will not suffer too terribly. Chill out and leave it alone. Volunteer Marek 03:16, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
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. If you look back at that the aftermath of that there was a Village Pump discussion on the matter to ban using promo materials, and it went nowhere. IIRC, there was some consensus that "spoiling" tribal rearrangements is kosher. The Terry quitting thing is a new territory, I admit (but so was the rock situation). The fact of the matter is, WP:SPOILERS is a community-wide consensus that cannot be overrode by a local decision to IAR. Take another go at the Village Pump if you are so dedicated. Anyways, it is approaching 1AM here. Gnite. Thegreyanomaly ( talk) 04:43, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
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From an essay on IAR. I don't know where you are getting the idea that IAR can't override a community-wide consensus. That's exactly what it can do, in my understanding. Good night. Survivorfan44 ( talk) 04:47, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
Finally we agree on something! [9] It has been previously argued at the Village Pump that previews are "protected" by WP:SPOILERS as well. Thegreyanomaly ( talk) 00:12, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
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Terry deitz needs to be placed out 15th. It is a spoiler with proof and theres no rules against it. Put that he is pulled out at day ? Nyancat23 ( talk) 23:02, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
Here's a pic of all 4 buffs together - https://instagram.com/p/9d78OqEmer/ - try to find a similar color! ~ Totaldramaman ( talk · contribs) 16:56, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Looking over the previous seasons for terminology: "Switched" has been used to describe:
-"Absorbed" has been used to describe
We used "split" for the unprecedented 2-to-3. We have precedent for 3-to-2, and it seems "switched" is most appropriate. In this case we do not need a new term ("dissolved"). Thegreyanomaly ( talk) 20:52, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
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The merge tribe is called orkun http://insidesurvivor.com/2015/11/survivor-second-chance-episode-6-what-you-didnt-see/ Nyancat23 ( talk) 21:37, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
I think Orkun stribe template should have white text, not black. The black on orange is a bit painful to the eyes. Am I alone on this? Thegreyanomaly ( talk) 02:32, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
Done - text is white. Jeff said the 13 merge/10 jury is so that as many people as possible could stay in the game as long as possible.
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In light of the new "vote stealing" mechanic introduced tonight, here's a mock-up of how I think we should go about noting it, if and when it is used. Thoughts? My only question is if the reference is necessary in the stealer and stolen's rows, or only in the vote total? - Katanin ( talk) 02:27, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
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In the CONTESTANTS section it states that Terry Deitz was "Pulled from the game" on Day 13. This is not correct. Terry was informed by the crew that there was a medical issue at home and that the doctors and his wife recommended that he come home. It may sound harsh, but he quit the game to be with his family. He was not told he had to leave. He quit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clibat2 ( talk • contribs) 19:26, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
Jeff Probst said in interview that he had no choice and there was no discussion. He was leaving and that was it. 108.162.157.141 ( talk) 05:53, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
I figured that I would start this since I usually do not edit articles like this and ended up using the notes on past seasons to try to create one for this season. I was wondering if there could be a discussion on how to handle the Day 36 vote due to how many rules were used to resolve it. Currently, there are five notes about the vote. (A, B, C, H, and I) Considering the number, should we remove some of the notes or are all required to explain what happened? -- Super Goku V ( talk) 02:11, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
The table is wrong. After the first Kimmi-Tasha tie Jeff asks Spencer, Jeremy, Kelley and Keith if they're keeping their votes the same and all of them said yes. So they moved on to a deadlocked tie. Same situation as Blood vs Water. There, they agreed to let Kimmi go, so as far as I'm concerned it's not a 4-0 vote, it's not even a vote, just an unanimous agreement they had to make or Keith would've left. (Even if it was 3-1 at that point, Keith would have gotten the boot) -- Luisrafael7 ( talk) 04:03, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
I think note g should add what would happen if they could not agree on a unanimous vote. Something like if they could not agree after 2 minutes, Keith would be voted out by default as he was the only one eligible to draw rocks. 108.162.157.141 ( talk) 05:50, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
I think I know exactly what interview you are talking about and you are taking the statement out of context. There was no discussion means just that... we didn't discuss it. If I ask you if you like the color blue and you say "yes", then there is no discussion. It's doesn't mean I forced you to like the color blue. It means there was no discussion about it... It means is was an easy decision for you. Jeff actually said, "There was zero debate" if we are talking about the same interview. If we are not talking about the same interview, please post a link.
What needs to be considered is the countless other articles that say he was given the choice. The Terry Deitz Wiki says "Jeff Probst came to the Ta Keo camp and told Terry about his son's heart condition which made Terry pull himself out of the game to see his son." How can 2 wikis say 2 different things about the same event? The words "pull himself out of the game" are a bit more kind, but the fact is, he quit. Listen to his exit interview with Rob Cesternino... He quit. Read the Terry Deitz Wiki... He quit.... Read the CBS website description of events... he quit... Read the Survivor Rulebook... There is no stipulation that you can be forced to leave due to an event that occurs back home. He quit. Saying he didn't quit is just letting emotion dictate the history of events. He may have "had no choice", but the fact is he did have a choice... an easy one albeit... so he quit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clibat2 ( talk • contribs) 20:01, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. You just helped me prove my point... if the reunion show didn't already when Jeff Probst said... "you didn't even hesitate" which there in itself says that it was Terry's decision. Do I think it was really a choice? Yes, I do. It was an EASY choice, but it was a choice. I wrote that if you read the above posting. The thing is I go by the definition of words and for a page like this that is supposed to state the facts I don't let emotion or a misunderstanding of the English language cloud those facts. Every example you stated in comparison was a medical issue for the contestant. Is Terry a doctor? No. Was he the only person on this earth that could perform a life saving surgery so a court ordered he return home? No. He is a loving father that had to quit the game to be with his family. Would every single father in the world have done the same thing? No. There are messed up people out there, but even if 99.999% of people would have done the same thing, including myself, that doesn't mean you should change the facts and say he was pulled from the game because he wasn't pulled from the game. He quit. Look it up. It's in the dictionary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clibat2 ( talk • contribs) 04:26, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
There is a proposal at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television/Survivor task force#Jury vote tables to list the vote totals in the same order as the names in the finalist row immediately above the vote totals. All interested editors are invited to join that discussion. Since the Survivor task force appears to be inactive, I'm notifying Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television/Reality television task force and the talk pages for each Survivor season in order to reach interested editors. Schazjmd (talk) 16:48, 29 April 2021 (UTC)