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Why tha article not called council but "soviet"? Soviets in their original meaning refer to 1920s, while "Верховный Совет" refers to the other meaning of the word - "council" (supreme council), a "soviet" and a "council" are similar words in russian.
Why isn't Supreme Council of the Soviet Union? UeArtemis ( talk) 11:26, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
Would it be possible to include a list of notable members of the Supreme Soviet not on the executive level? Orville Eastland ( talk) 00:54, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Someone has removed Ivan Laptev from the list of Chairmen of the Supreme Soviet. I saw with my own eyes that he and Rafiq Nishonov presided over the meetings of the USSR Supreme Soviet on CNN after the failed coup d'etat in August 1991. Please do not remove him
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The Soviet Union was the country as a whole and the other bullet points were provinces within it. Therefore, an equal bullet point for the country along with its provinces is misleading. The Mysterious El Willstro ( talk) 21:32, 11 August 2012 (UTC) |
" In practice, however, it functioned as a rubber stamp for decisions already made by the CPSU. This later became common practice in all Communist countries. "
Is there any citation or sources support for this? Preferably disinterested ones. The statement have an anti-soviet feeling for it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.69.62.136 ( talk) 04:41, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
More importantly is their any unbiased sources. 71.17.109.113 ( talk) 08:40, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
There are articles for all "elections" between 1946 and the end of the Sowjet Union:
Imo, they should be mentioned. Any pro's / con's ? -- Neun-x ( talk) 19:17, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
Depending on the era, either this or the Federal Council may be simply referred to as "The Soviet" (based on Сове́т, the Russian word for "Senate," "Upper House of Parliament," or "Governing Council"). For that reason, I will now create a Disambiguation Page to this effect. The Mysterious El Willstro ( talk) 06:09, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
On this article it talks about how it was rubber stamp institution with no real power, however in the article for the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet it states that the Presidium (an institution that was powerful enough to remove a General Secretary at one point) was elected directly from the Supreme Soviet. Someone else also said that the rubber stamp line was biased and unsourced so it might be related.
Orchastrattor ( talk) 17:38, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
Can it be clarified what the difference was between the Council of Ministers and the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet, both of which seems to have been elected jointly by the houses of the Supreme Soviet? At first blush, you'd imagine they'd consist of the same individuals, totally or mostly. If I had to guess the difference in membership, it would seem the Presidium had to consist of members from the Supreme Soviet itself, whereas the Council could consists of members from the Supreme Soviet, but could also include members from without. I'd also guess the Council was functioned in practice as the executive branch of government, whereas the Presidium was something comparable to a parliamentary Speaker, that is to say that controlled the inner/day-to-day workings of the legislature. Though, different articles on here also seem to imply that it very much was part of an executive branch of government, too, and seen as a collective head of state in the same way as the Council was seen as a collective head of government. In that same vein, did members of the Presidium and Council ever overlap? For instance, was the Chairman of the Presidium ever also Chairmen of the Council of Ministers?
Weirdly, the Council also seems to have had its own presidium which further confuses things, and the 1977 Soviet constitution seems to imply that the Presidium of the Council of Ministers had the same membership as the entire Council of Ministers.
Excuse me for asking all of these questions bunched together like this, but if anyone could clarify this and make appropriate changes to this articles and the ones related to this, that would be great. -- Criticalthinker ( talk) 10:19, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
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Why tha article not called council but "soviet"? Soviets in their original meaning refer to 1920s, while "Верховный Совет" refers to the other meaning of the word - "council" (supreme council), a "soviet" and a "council" are similar words in russian.
Why isn't Supreme Council of the Soviet Union? UeArtemis ( talk) 11:26, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
Would it be possible to include a list of notable members of the Supreme Soviet not on the executive level? Orville Eastland ( talk) 00:54, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Someone has removed Ivan Laptev from the list of Chairmen of the Supreme Soviet. I saw with my own eyes that he and Rafiq Nishonov presided over the meetings of the USSR Supreme Soviet on CNN after the failed coup d'etat in August 1991. Please do not remove him
User:Mbakkel2 20:42, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Intended for Talk:Supreme Soviet. |
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The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it. |
The Soviet Union was the country as a whole and the other bullet points were provinces within it. Therefore, an equal bullet point for the country along with its provinces is misleading. The Mysterious El Willstro ( talk) 21:32, 11 August 2012 (UTC) |
" In practice, however, it functioned as a rubber stamp for decisions already made by the CPSU. This later became common practice in all Communist countries. "
Is there any citation or sources support for this? Preferably disinterested ones. The statement have an anti-soviet feeling for it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.69.62.136 ( talk) 04:41, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
More importantly is their any unbiased sources. 71.17.109.113 ( talk) 08:40, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
There are articles for all "elections" between 1946 and the end of the Sowjet Union:
Imo, they should be mentioned. Any pro's / con's ? -- Neun-x ( talk) 19:17, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
Depending on the era, either this or the Federal Council may be simply referred to as "The Soviet" (based on Сове́т, the Russian word for "Senate," "Upper House of Parliament," or "Governing Council"). For that reason, I will now create a Disambiguation Page to this effect. The Mysterious El Willstro ( talk) 06:09, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
On this article it talks about how it was rubber stamp institution with no real power, however in the article for the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet it states that the Presidium (an institution that was powerful enough to remove a General Secretary at one point) was elected directly from the Supreme Soviet. Someone else also said that the rubber stamp line was biased and unsourced so it might be related.
Orchastrattor ( talk) 17:38, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
Can it be clarified what the difference was between the Council of Ministers and the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet, both of which seems to have been elected jointly by the houses of the Supreme Soviet? At first blush, you'd imagine they'd consist of the same individuals, totally or mostly. If I had to guess the difference in membership, it would seem the Presidium had to consist of members from the Supreme Soviet itself, whereas the Council could consists of members from the Supreme Soviet, but could also include members from without. I'd also guess the Council was functioned in practice as the executive branch of government, whereas the Presidium was something comparable to a parliamentary Speaker, that is to say that controlled the inner/day-to-day workings of the legislature. Though, different articles on here also seem to imply that it very much was part of an executive branch of government, too, and seen as a collective head of state in the same way as the Council was seen as a collective head of government. In that same vein, did members of the Presidium and Council ever overlap? For instance, was the Chairman of the Presidium ever also Chairmen of the Council of Ministers?
Weirdly, the Council also seems to have had its own presidium which further confuses things, and the 1977 Soviet constitution seems to imply that the Presidium of the Council of Ministers had the same membership as the entire Council of Ministers.
Excuse me for asking all of these questions bunched together like this, but if anyone could clarify this and make appropriate changes to this articles and the ones related to this, that would be great. -- Criticalthinker ( talk) 10:19, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
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