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Did you know... that the Supermarine Stranraer(example pictured) had the nickname "whistling shithouse"?
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The article was last edited nearly 10 years ago, so I'm guessing no-one will mind too much if I develop the citation and use the Harvard style, one one I'm used to.
Amitchell125 (
talk) 17:10, 23 November 2021 (UTC)reply
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Is there not a specific year that development commenced?
Replace "However" with something along the lines of "Despite the rejection"
Prototypes and production
"During 1933" → "In 1933"
Remove "was placed" from "initial order was placed for 17 aircraft", there is a duplicate after the serial numbers
"during December 1936" → "in December 1936"
Do we know why the May 1936 order for K9676 to K9681 was canceled? Also, is this the same May 1936 order as the one mentioned in the prior paragraph? Seems odd to me that the mention of its cancelation is in a separate paragraph if that's the case.
I think the canceled bit was incorrect, it's now gone. Text now reorganised.
Amitchell125 (
talk) 16:09, 28 October 2022 (UTC)reply
"Supermarine and Canadian Vickers being subsidiaries of Vickers-Armstrongs" is a fragment (semicolon isn't used properly). Change it to "by Canadian Vickers Limited, as both Supermarine and Canadian Vickers were subsidiaries of Vickers-Armstrongs."
Description
Paragraph 1
Fix comma after "flying boat" to a period
Add "and" before "its take-off weight"
Typo in "all- metal frame" (?), remove the space between "all-metal"
"It was widened at the shoulders" What does that mean? Widened in comparison to what?
Paragraph 2
"As it progressed" As what progressed? Development?
I'm pretty sure it should be "wings'" rather than "wing's"
Is there a specific reason the Bristol Pegasus IIIM was chosen over the Rolls-Royce Kestrel?
Paragraph 3
Add "and" between "Stranraer" and "different"
Paragraph 4
Add "made of" between "which were" and "metal"
Is there a specific type of bomb the aircraft could carry?
I've looked but found no information.
Amitchell125 (
talk) 09:00, 28 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Operational history
Military use prior to September 1939
Remove "Supermarine" from "The Supermarine Stranraer and its contemporary", we already know its from Supermarine
Add a comma after "from 1937"
Add a period after "they entered service"
"primarily by" → "primarily with"
Action during the Second World War
Make "use of the Stranraer for such patrols came to an end on 17 March 1941" its own sentence (take it out of the semicolon)
Civilian use
Add a comma after "From May 1935"
Remove "However," its not necessary
Operators
Military
[[File:Canadian Red Ensign 1921-1957.svg|22px]] [[Canada]] → "{{flag|Canada|1921}}"
Civilian
{{USA}} → "{{flag|United States|1912}}"
References are needed for Pacific Western Airlines and Wardair
Surviving aircraft
What happened to the other aircraft? Were they scrapped/destroyed?
References and sources
Sources, navbars, and categories are good Y
Images
Supermarine Stranraer 3 ExCC.jpg – Y
Supermarine Aviation Ltd, Woolston.jpg – Y
Supermarine Stranraer - John Player.jpg – Y
Supermarine Stranraer 2 ExCC.jpg – Y
Supermarine Stranraer 912.jpg – Y
Aircraft of the Royal Air Force 1939-1945- Supermarine Stranraer. CH2551.jpg – Y
Supermarine Stranraer.jpg – Y
Overall
Make sure the order of units is consistent. Background Paragraph 1, Description Paragraph 5, Military use prior to September 1939 Paragraph 2, and Specifications list Imperial (Metric). Description Paragraph 1 and Description Paragraph 5 list Metric (Imperial).
Neutral POV Y
Topic covered thoroughly Y
Stays on topic Y
Page is stable Y
Layout is good Y
Final remarks
GA review (see
here for what the criteria are, and
here for what they are not)
@
Amitchell125: Well done! Just some comments and suggestions to address and I'll pass this review.
PizzaKing13(Hablame) 05:57, 28 October 2022 (UTC)reply
@
PizzaKing13: All points now addressed, hopefully. Many thanks for your thorough review.
Amitchell125 (
talk) 16:11, 28 October 2022 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Did you know nomination
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
... that the Supermarine Stranraer(pictured) was already considered obsolete when it entered military service? Source: Pegram, Ralph (2016). Beyond the Spitfire: The Unseen Designs of R.J. Mitchell. Cheltenham, UK: The History Press. ISBN 978-0-7509-6515-6. Page 137
ALT1: ... that the Supermarine Stranraer(pictured) had the nickname "whistling shithouse"? Source: Septer, Dirk (April 2001). "Canada's Stranraers". Aeroplane. No. 235. Stamford, UK: Key Publishing. Page 60
Article was promoted to GA status on time. No close paraphrasing was detected. A QPQ has been done. ALT0 is cited inline, AGF on the offline source. ALT1 is cited inline, but the actual sentence that mentions the "whistling shithouse" sentence is lacking a footnote; the footnote referencing it needs to be duplicated for DYK purposes. There's also a missing space before "In QCA use".
Narutolovehinata5 (
talk ·
contributions) 07:00, 5 November 2022 (UTC)reply
I have to note that ALT1 is my preferred hook, but if it doesn't work out or if consensus says that it can't run then ALT0 is a good alternative.
Narutolovehinata5 (
talk ·
contributions) 14:18, 5 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Thank you, GTG. My preferred hook remains ALT1; however, if consensus states that it can't run due to the use of the word "shit", then ALT0 can be used as an alternative.
Narutolovehinata5 (
talk ·
contributions) 00:02, 8 November 2022 (UTC)reply
I have no idea how reliable
this source is, but it says that the plane only served with the RCAF until 1946 and it claims that the pic was taken by them, so while I couldn't find an actual year or location, according to it the pic would have been taken no later than 1946, which is over 50 years ago.
Narutolovehinata5 (
talk ·
contributions) 17:46, 13 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Seems to be ripping from a newspaper, so I'll take it. thanks!
theleekycauldron (
talk •
contribs) (she/her) 00:12, 14 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Name
Seems the Stranaer was named for a
town in Scotland. –
Sca (
talk) 15:12, 22 November 2022 (UTC)reply
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British English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, travelled, centre, defence, artefact, analyse) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other
varieties of English. According to the
relevant style guide, this should not be changed without
broad consensus.
A fact from Supermarine Stranraer appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 22 November 2022 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that the Supermarine Stranraer(example pictured) had the nickname "whistling shithouse"?
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The article was last edited nearly 10 years ago, so I'm guessing no-one will mind too much if I develop the citation and use the Harvard style, one one I'm used to.
Amitchell125 (
talk) 17:10, 23 November 2021 (UTC)reply
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Is there not a specific year that development commenced?
Replace "However" with something along the lines of "Despite the rejection"
Prototypes and production
"During 1933" → "In 1933"
Remove "was placed" from "initial order was placed for 17 aircraft", there is a duplicate after the serial numbers
"during December 1936" → "in December 1936"
Do we know why the May 1936 order for K9676 to K9681 was canceled? Also, is this the same May 1936 order as the one mentioned in the prior paragraph? Seems odd to me that the mention of its cancelation is in a separate paragraph if that's the case.
I think the canceled bit was incorrect, it's now gone. Text now reorganised.
Amitchell125 (
talk) 16:09, 28 October 2022 (UTC)reply
"Supermarine and Canadian Vickers being subsidiaries of Vickers-Armstrongs" is a fragment (semicolon isn't used properly). Change it to "by Canadian Vickers Limited, as both Supermarine and Canadian Vickers were subsidiaries of Vickers-Armstrongs."
Description
Paragraph 1
Fix comma after "flying boat" to a period
Add "and" before "its take-off weight"
Typo in "all- metal frame" (?), remove the space between "all-metal"
"It was widened at the shoulders" What does that mean? Widened in comparison to what?
Paragraph 2
"As it progressed" As what progressed? Development?
I'm pretty sure it should be "wings'" rather than "wing's"
Is there a specific reason the Bristol Pegasus IIIM was chosen over the Rolls-Royce Kestrel?
Paragraph 3
Add "and" between "Stranraer" and "different"
Paragraph 4
Add "made of" between "which were" and "metal"
Is there a specific type of bomb the aircraft could carry?
I've looked but found no information.
Amitchell125 (
talk) 09:00, 28 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Operational history
Military use prior to September 1939
Remove "Supermarine" from "The Supermarine Stranraer and its contemporary", we already know its from Supermarine
Add a comma after "from 1937"
Add a period after "they entered service"
"primarily by" → "primarily with"
Action during the Second World War
Make "use of the Stranraer for such patrols came to an end on 17 March 1941" its own sentence (take it out of the semicolon)
Civilian use
Add a comma after "From May 1935"
Remove "However," its not necessary
Operators
Military
[[File:Canadian Red Ensign 1921-1957.svg|22px]] [[Canada]] → "{{flag|Canada|1921}}"
Civilian
{{USA}} → "{{flag|United States|1912}}"
References are needed for Pacific Western Airlines and Wardair
Surviving aircraft
What happened to the other aircraft? Were they scrapped/destroyed?
References and sources
Sources, navbars, and categories are good Y
Images
Supermarine Stranraer 3 ExCC.jpg – Y
Supermarine Aviation Ltd, Woolston.jpg – Y
Supermarine Stranraer - John Player.jpg – Y
Supermarine Stranraer 2 ExCC.jpg – Y
Supermarine Stranraer 912.jpg – Y
Aircraft of the Royal Air Force 1939-1945- Supermarine Stranraer. CH2551.jpg – Y
Supermarine Stranraer.jpg – Y
Overall
Make sure the order of units is consistent. Background Paragraph 1, Description Paragraph 5, Military use prior to September 1939 Paragraph 2, and Specifications list Imperial (Metric). Description Paragraph 1 and Description Paragraph 5 list Metric (Imperial).
Neutral POV Y
Topic covered thoroughly Y
Stays on topic Y
Page is stable Y
Layout is good Y
Final remarks
GA review (see
here for what the criteria are, and
here for what they are not)
@
Amitchell125: Well done! Just some comments and suggestions to address and I'll pass this review.
PizzaKing13(Hablame) 05:57, 28 October 2022 (UTC)reply
@
PizzaKing13: All points now addressed, hopefully. Many thanks for your thorough review.
Amitchell125 (
talk) 16:11, 28 October 2022 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Did you know nomination
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
... that the Supermarine Stranraer(pictured) was already considered obsolete when it entered military service? Source: Pegram, Ralph (2016). Beyond the Spitfire: The Unseen Designs of R.J. Mitchell. Cheltenham, UK: The History Press. ISBN 978-0-7509-6515-6. Page 137
ALT1: ... that the Supermarine Stranraer(pictured) had the nickname "whistling shithouse"? Source: Septer, Dirk (April 2001). "Canada's Stranraers". Aeroplane. No. 235. Stamford, UK: Key Publishing. Page 60
Article was promoted to GA status on time. No close paraphrasing was detected. A QPQ has been done. ALT0 is cited inline, AGF on the offline source. ALT1 is cited inline, but the actual sentence that mentions the "whistling shithouse" sentence is lacking a footnote; the footnote referencing it needs to be duplicated for DYK purposes. There's also a missing space before "In QCA use".
Narutolovehinata5 (
talk ·
contributions) 07:00, 5 November 2022 (UTC)reply
I have to note that ALT1 is my preferred hook, but if it doesn't work out or if consensus says that it can't run then ALT0 is a good alternative.
Narutolovehinata5 (
talk ·
contributions) 14:18, 5 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Thank you, GTG. My preferred hook remains ALT1; however, if consensus states that it can't run due to the use of the word "shit", then ALT0 can be used as an alternative.
Narutolovehinata5 (
talk ·
contributions) 00:02, 8 November 2022 (UTC)reply
I have no idea how reliable
this source is, but it says that the plane only served with the RCAF until 1946 and it claims that the pic was taken by them, so while I couldn't find an actual year or location, according to it the pic would have been taken no later than 1946, which is over 50 years ago.
Narutolovehinata5 (
talk ·
contributions) 17:46, 13 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Seems to be ripping from a newspaper, so I'll take it. thanks!
theleekycauldron (
talk •
contribs) (she/her) 00:12, 14 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Name
Seems the Stranaer was named for a
town in Scotland. –
Sca (
talk) 15:12, 22 November 2022 (UTC)reply