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It has been confirmed by Nintendo that SSBB will be released on March 15, 2007. The June 1st release date is invalid. It is available for Pre-Order on http://www.bestbuy.com (and possibly a few more sites.)
Edit: It is actually ONLY available for pre-order on www.bestbuy.com. order now! Available march 15!
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by SuperWiki5 ( talk • contribs) 22:55, 30 January 2007 (UTC).
Best Buy is not a reliable source. They use those as fillers only, to "let" people know about the release date. No official release date has been made. Aramjm 00:15, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Nintendo has released all the Q1 titles and Brawl is not among them, so this is obviously not true. 199.126.137.209 00:17, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Oh really? check the website... it'll be there. 24.128.186.205 21:54, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Best Buy sells the games. They don't make them. Besides, if it were true, then Sakurai would be releasing more info, as it says on the site. This question is on our FAQ. Read it. Aramjm 23:18, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
I never said best buy makes the games u idiot! SuperWiki5 23:57, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
best buy is almost always wrong... they had aboout 5 release dates for Zelda tp! -- TheGreenLink 23:19, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
He wasn't trying to say you were stupid or whatever. He was trying to clear this up. Anyway, GL is right, TP had constantly changing release dates, none of them right, except the last one. 68.74.7.123 01:17, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
This is ridiculous. It's a store listing. This is hardly "confirmed by Nintendo." 72.49.8.57 21:18, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
^what he said. They just tack a date and claim its the release date. Aramjm 21:21, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
The Canadian version of best buy says that Brawl will be released on Nov. 30, 07 and jigglypuff is a confirmed character?! Obviously they're not reliable at all! 24.82.173.110 03:38, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
now BB says its due on 2/28/08 wait! now its 12/31/07~~union_K
...no. Leave the date to Nintendo, not to retailers, who are almost always wrong. 67.38.2.206 23:17, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't know, they released the Guitar Hero 2 songlist a week before it came out (in response to information). But then they did announce the release date months in advance. Sam 05:56, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
There was a time when Bestbuy said that Kingdom Hearts 2 was coming out some time in November 2005 or something like that. The people at Gamefaqs had a field day with joke topics. Mavrickindigo 02:55, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
At this time the development studio is iffy. On the official SSBB page, Sakurai introduces himself from Sora ( http://www.smashbros.com/en/main.html). However the splash page proceding that still reads copyright 2006 Nintendo/HAL Labs. ( http://www.smashbros.com/en/index.html) I think there should be something in the article mentioning both studios. 72.49.8.57 18:55, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
The voice of Ganondorf, Takashi Nagasako has apparently joined the voices list of brawl, that's according to imdb. Should this be mentioned?
Shouldn't it be put that you CAN use the Wii Classic Controller? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.16.113.148 ( talk)
The Classic controller is incompatible with games that use GC and/or Wii contollers, so its unusable. Please sign your posts with four ~ to sign your post. 67.38.17.46 20:00, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Wrong. They haven't stated if you can use EITHER. For right now, which controller to use is still up in the air. Don't assume. Spindash Shoryuken 22:18, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Read the article. It says that the Wiimote and the GC controller are usable. Seeing how the Classic is unusable on GC games, it's unlikely that it will be usable in the game. 68.74.9.113 01:25, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
I never even suggested putting it on the article, and you guys keep pointing fingers at me. 68.74.0.82 20:44, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Sakurai said that the Wiimote might be used for minigames. I could get the link, but I'm not in the mood right now Fliptroopa 18:55, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
Source now. Wait. *reads article* He won't use any motion for minigames. Nice try Aramjm
I think that this is quite possible. They could even have it write to the GC memory card, though they wouldn't. The Wii-mote is not usable, only GC and Classic.
He didn'y say anything for not using the wiimote. Then again, Tenkaichi 2 can use all three... but speculation doesn't belong here 68.73.7.71 16:01, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
You guys need to start reading more and stop acting like you know it all. The Wiimote has been CONFIRMED. This isn't a GCN game. Christ.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.49.8.57 ( talk • contribs)
Number 1. Don't use "Christ" like that, you will offend some people. (so f'ing what?) Number 2. It has been hinted that the game will use the GCN controller, I would particuarly perfer that, I'm very much against using the remote thing to play a smash bros. game. BassxForte 02:45, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
I have never heard that the GCN controller was hinted. they said you could use it the good ol' classic melee way.... but they didn't say it exactly like that...
How would you actually be able to play smash bros on the wii's controler? It's too fast paced.
if you read the article, there is a link to here: http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/707/707504p1.html this mentions an interview with the designer where he said too much motion control would ruin the game and specifically hinted at using gamecube controllers. as far as i'm aware, this is what we're basing our information on (and there are many other websites that report the same information). please read the article and references before contesting them. however, if anybody knows something we don't and has an authoritative link to prove it, we'll be more than happy to include it. Djchallis 08:11, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Any and all of you can go to the Smash Bros. Dojo, the official site, and read Sakurai's interview with Famitsu (I believe, might have been a different publication though). He clearly sidesteps the topic about controlling it with the Wiimote making it, although not explicitly, clear that he himself was interested in developing the game to be controlled with the GCN controller also commenting about how the design of the GCN controller itself was designed with Smash Bros. in mind (in addition to several other games, of course). AnujSuper9 04:05, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Really? 24.82.173.110 03:23, 5 February 2007 (UTC)0
That link is from an interview that is nearly a year old. Anything more recent? Trcrev 20:48, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
When I got the Wii, it came with a "classic controller" that was the traditional two-handed controller, maybe will use that for brawl, but that speculation shouldn't be added to the main article. BassxForte 18:10, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
The game is sais to be compatible to the GameCube controler, as when they experimented with the motion sensors they felt it just made it more complicated. However, this does not have to mean that the normal Wiimote+nunchuk won't be usable, only that the motion sensing and pointer fuktions will not be used. 213.67.208.199 20:00, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
The GC controler is not sold anymore over here in the uk (any shop i've been to anyway) so making brawl GC controler would really mess things up over here. Also, the game could easily use the Wii-mote for gameplay. C for jump-z for defend (combined with A for grab) control stick to move, a for standard b for special... you can get all the moves of SSBM in the wii controler. It really could go either way.-- Brendoshi 20:59, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
If you click on the Super Smash Bros. Brawl Update link on the Wii main site ( http://wii.nintendo.com), you'll see that they've removed Brawl from the logo, and put Dojo. In fact, it just says 'Smash Bros. Dojo!!' Is this some joke, or is it official by Nintendo? Either way, I'm bringing it up here for consideration in the article name change. Sorani172 13:27, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, then! I should've paid more attention to the site. Sorani172 13:39, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
I can say, hand on heart, that I was never aware of that FAQs page. That should've been put there months ago... with an additional notice that it answers such questions as what goes on with the dojo picture on that site and why we have the developers listed as they are. Also, it's a good thing you guys aren't being too harsh with this latest guy's mistake, though I must say that if it were somewhat harsher, it definitely would break Don't Bite the Newbies. It's great the FAQ link was put there, overall. :) Erik Jensen ( Appreciate| Donate) 03:08, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
As a sort of meaningless effort for posterity, I have researched all the archives for this talk page, and with the exception of archive 4, every one of the archives has a section asking this very question. Therefore, this discussion here marks the seventh time somebody has looked at the site's name and interpreted it as a name change for Brawl. Heh, most other internet discussions would adopt it as a running joke at that point. But this should clarify that it's not been discussed "countless" times, it's been discussed only enough times that it can be counted on two hands. I can link the other six archived discussions if you'd like. Hugs and kisses, Erik Jensen ( Appreciate| Donate) 21:06, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Dense. Obviously the name of the official site. 72.49.8.57 18:58, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
The article says: "Though some of Pikachu's trademark attacks are shown in the E³ trailer, including Thunder, Thunderbolt, and Quick Attack, its Super Smash has yet to be seen." I believe the instruction manual for SSBM calls the move "Thunderjolt", not "ThunderBolt". Is there some other primary source suggesting otherwise?
If someone with editing power makes that change, they might also want to format that whole movelist (begginning with "including") as a parenthetical phrase instead. I belive it would make the sentance structure more apperent then those ambiguous commas. ~~William Morgan
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.139.132.187 ( talk) 07:23, 18 December 2006 (UTC).
here it is [1] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Marioman12 ( talk • contribs) 21:51, 18 December 2006 (UTC).
I think that we should change saying that Nintendo made Link look more realistic because thats only half of what they did. According to the game The Legend of Zelda: The Twilight Princess, he also matured, making him look differently. Colin Reding 00:07, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't we archive this page? It's getting kinda long... -- Linkmasta 01:52, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
I moved all discussion before December 9 to Archive 7 since this talk page was getting to be about 44 kilobytes long. s d 3 1 4 1 5 final exams! 13:02, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
i was watching the trailer again ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62IfHDBCJOo0). and i noticed that between 00:41-00:43, that the way pikachu walks has been replaced with hops...like a kangaroo. Should we say something about that in the article? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.114.214.59 ( talk) 18:01, 23 December 2006 (UTC).
So does anyone else think that the new crawling animation/ability added is going to either completely stop or interrupt Wavedashing? Sora3087 07:16, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
We will have to wait and see. I don't know if characters are able to jump at all in that mode, I don't even know how they will attack. It is just a matter of time. Tinkleheimer 07:37, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
The article currently says the game's engine is a modified SSBM engine. Is there any proof of this? And shouldn't there be a citation? If someone can't come up with this then the "Engine" part should be removed. Personally, I was under the impression that they created the game from scratch for the Wii, but I have no evidence suggesting this besides the fact that they created an entire development studio just for this game. -- IG-64 15:48, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Removed edit from User:Ibanez RYM. - FMF| contact 23:08, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Its unlikely but that doesn't mean that they won't. FMF| contact 18:10, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
One thing's for sure, the game will look better. Shaders and bloom effects are now possible, thanks to the Wii's new graphic card. Other than that... there's no use to remake something that has already proven to be good. I think we might see some differences with the computer's AI, though. -- Bleako 23:35, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
People have, multiple times, changed all instances of "Super Smash" moves to "Brawl" moves, stating it is the official name but not giving a cite. Any reasoning behind this? One edit even changed "Super Smash emblems" to "Brawl emblems", even though it's referring to an icon that was seen in the earlier Super Smash Bros. games. -- HeroicJay 00:10, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
I had previously changed the names to refer to them as unnamed special attacks quite a long time ago, but was reverted. The problem with fan names is there is no way to prove which name is more frequently used, and even so I think it's strongly discouraged to use fan made names. 199.126.137.209 00:39, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
It seems premature to change the regular page to include Sonic based off one article ( http://gonintendo.com/?p=11432), but I thought at least I would list it here on the talk page in case other sources appear to confirm (or deny) this posting since no doubt it will become a major topic of discussion in the coming days. What do others think of the legitimacy of this statement from this magazine? Seth0708 20:03, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Actually, that scan is from the Swedish verson of the official nintendo magazine.
After looking at the comments posted on the site, they say N+ is a new magazine that just came out today, and it is from the makers of a few other credible magazines. And it is also The Official Magazine of Nintendo (I believe). If the article is real or not, I don't know. Tinkleheimer 01:43, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Should warnings be given to editors (like in the case to not add suggestive character) to not use this magazine as a source for Sonic until Nintendo confirms anything? magiciandude 02:23, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
My friend translated it as: "Wario, Link and Pikachu is what we'll see and play as Solid Snake, Sonic The Hedgehog, Samus without a suit, Fox McCloud, Pit from Kid Icarus and Meta Knight who we know from Kirby." The Legendary Raccoon Fox: RingtailedFox • Talk • Stalk 22:16, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
There's only one problem, we cannot constitute it as fact (1) from a new magazine that no one really knows about (2) Why hasn't Nintendo Power, the director, etc said anything yet? ok I lied, that's more than one problem. FMF| contact 22:24, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
The English aren't always going to be the first to get info. I am not saying this information is credible yet, but there is a possibility of it being credible in the future.
Nintendo of Europe is somewhat known for accidentally leaking information early. They revealed Paper Mario 2 and Warioware for the Gamecube quite a ways before Nintendo actually announced the games. I'm not saying it's confirmed, but, the "nobody else has said anything" reason for it being fake isn't really closing the book on it. I agree that until it's confirmed it should be treated as speculation, but dismissing it as a hoax with little to no reasoning behind it is just as silly as adding Sonic to the official roster at this point. If something comes of it, it would make an interesting note in the article that Sonic was announced on accident by a magazine in Europe, but I'm not sure it should even be included in the article at all until something's confirmed. Wikipedia's not a book of speculation. 68.202.33.218 09:00, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm Swedish, and can confirm that this is at least not fake. Whether or not it's credible is another issue. 83.255.67.167 20:24, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Excuse me, but I've got the magazine as a whole. I live in a suburb of Stockholm (Huddinge) and my little brother brought the magazine for me. While I didn't find anything that was remiscent to the clip, the article mentioned Sonic the Hedgehog as a confirmed character. We'll just have to wait for Sakurai to annouce it, or e-mail him that. I could also speak with the guys in +N about the thing. 83.183.203.58 20:38, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
If it were really a ground-breaking secret that only that magazine knew, I don't think they would surreptitiously put Sonic in the middle of that list. I think they casually placed him in there, purposely trying to start a riot (and it worked..). - Power Slave 04:14, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
eehhh... i read that magazine and there is no picture of sonic and the crew thought that the sonic rumor was a confirmed fact and wrote it down like a fact, thats it! it was just a silly misstake and nothing else! - Anton the Swede 16:00, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Anyone here thought of the simple solution of actually ASKING the writers of +N? I can try it, I know one of them is a member at a small message board I know, and I don't think emailing them would be too hard either. 213.67.208.199 20:00, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, how many of us are Swedish? By a coincidence, I am. But I never read +N, and much less know anyone who works on it (do they have a website?). I saw the issue you're on about at a local shop today, but I can't help you with the scanning though. Sorry. Gurko 11:46, 27 February 2007 (UTC) Guys just ask the editors of the magazine and post what they say.I am an avid video game freak and must know Dylan Uzumaki 23:34, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Someone added Diddy Kong to the list of characters. Is this true or did someone just add him with no proof? Takuthehedgehog 02:57, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, it should be in S. Protection. Someone put in Ganondork and Kefka from FFVI awhile back. Vandals, stop being jerks! YEESH! ChromeWulf ZX 01:24, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Well, Diddy Kong is in this game and is initially available, but the game had officially excluded Princess Peach. -- PJ Pete
what proof do you have? johnny's pizza 01:27, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
I cannot read Japanese, and Babelfish doesn't provide anything useful when translating the source given for Meta Knight's fanfare being a rock remix. I see one line that looks like they're considering it ("Whether this time, the meta just knight at lock pitch カービィダンス tune...... with Thinking, we were planned.") but the broken English is too broken for me. Is that really what it says? -- HeroicJay 17:09, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
I edited that section to make "confirm" less on whether it will be and more on what Sakurai said. He plans to make it different. Sakurai's response was to a post that asked that it wouldn't fit Meta Knight's somber demeanour to have the same upbeat Kirby song as his fanfare. "今回、メタナイトだけはロック調でカービィダンス曲かなぁ……と 思って計画しておりました。 I've been thinking about having Meta Knight have more of a rock version of Kirb'y dance tune. I've been planning on it too." Shao-Yoshi 19:24, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
According to a member on Game Faqs, Game Informer stated that Brawl will be released on 6/1/2006. I don't have a copy of the magazine to tell if this is true, but I think of Game Informer to be pretty credible, although we might wait for an official release. Tinkleheimer 19:47, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
A couple of my friends say it does indeed say that. Tinkleheimer 01:51, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
It also says the developer is Sora, after all. Is this confirmation, or are they just guessing like everyone else? - Power Slave 21:58, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
It doesn't seem like a popular news magazine to make up stuff and put it in like that. And it isn't April Fools. I don't know what to do on the status of this... Tinkleheimer 22:00, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
But it isn't like for national magazines to put in random dates as placeholders and companies also. They will normally do 2007 as a placeholder instead of an actual date. I don't know what to actually think, I am thinking of waiting until Nintendo says something, or GI says something in the March issue about the matter. Tinkleheimer 04:00, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
Another source said June 1 a while back, but I don't remember what. It should be in one of the archives. I think "June 1" is the universal placeholder for any release date, since it's just about halfway through the year. - Power Slave 01:49, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Ok now im seeing that King Dede is a playable character.Well I need proof that he is,like a photo of him in the game informer issue. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 151.200.179.213 ( talk) 20:34, 17 January 2007 (UTC).
Here we've been waiting for an answer from Nintendo to confirm online and Wii remote functionality and it's been confirmed since MAY OF LAST YEAR. And it's not just fans--major video game medias, including Gamespot, IGN and GameInformer, have also been waiting for an answer. It must've slipped under the radar. Click on this link to see for yourself:
http://wii.gamespy.com/wii/super-smash-bros-wii/707716p1.html Tj terrorible1
Such as: --the speed of the game will be “moderated” --every character’s ability is being refined from the ground up to allow more freedom in aerial combat --not all characters will return --if they add online functionality to the game, they do not plan to add a ranking system --Sakurai (translated from Japanese to English): "This time, we'd like to stress easiness over the small details of combat, so overall it might become somewhat easier." / "We will create this game with balance in mind."
Also, I looked at the ssbb articles in other languages and the stages are listed like our character section is. Why isn't our stage section like that?
Please sign your posts :D...and can you post a link to this, or is it on the Japanese Dojo Site? Tinkleheimer 23:23, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Of course this information isn't new. But it's important. And you want to know the source? The Japanese official SSBB website--the same source for the following: -there will be 1-2 more third party characters, -all third party characters must have appeared on a Nintendo system. The above are important details about SSBB's gameplay and they need to be added to the articel somewhere. Not adding these details is like leaving out a confirmed character. So add them...NOW!!!
Maybe there should be a list of characters wanted for brawl on the page. Its a good idea because it gives people a good idea of who they might be seeing in the game. Its a bad idea because people would argue about whether soo and so should be on the list. If it were to happed any character that is wanted could be added as long as it fits within the standards(must have been in a nintendo game..ect). Widkid85 21:46, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
Should we also mention that Bill Trinen, the Localization Manager, seen at almost all Nintendo Press Events and a head representative speaker along with Miyamoto and Iwata, was also at the exclusive meeting where Brawl was revealed? AnujSuper9 07:37, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
I was new to Wikipedia when I added those pictures to the Smash Brawl characters section, but why was it considered vandalism or un-necessary. I only added pictures of the new characters. I should have asked permission here first, yes, but what was wrong with it? I'm not trying to confront anyone or anything, I just want to know so that I know not to make the same mistake in the future. Thankyou. AnujSuper9 00:33, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Right now, I'm laughing at the new picture caption at the top of the confirmed characters section. "Hank, the angry drunken midget, Paris Hilton..." DarthJango42 00:39, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
--- it may not be necessary but it is helpful. Why have a free online encyclopedia and not use the freedom of images? A picture is worth a thousand words. Plus it's really cool.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.252.188.143 ( talk • contribs)
Since Brawl is not out yet and Nintendo is mostly keeping its mouth shut, would it be possible if you guys also took a look at Super Smash Bros.?. It's looking a lot like a game guide right now. bibliomaniac 1 5 03:35, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
By the way, this is ShadowUltra speaking, but I can't log in using this computer. 69.244.235.160 03:16, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
I wouldn't be to sure. I think updates (IIRC) came on Twilight Princess quickly before the demo was released. I might be wrong, as it was a while... Aramjm 01:37, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
I've noticed in the Japanese trailer, there is a yoshi stage. I'm pretty shure yoshi will be in ssbb.
Every character in Melee had their own stage, (well... except for the pokemon characters) so it is highly likly that Yoshi will appear in the game, but since he hasn't been officaly confirmed, he should not be put in the article. BassxForte 00:56, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
This is speculation, but I am 100% sure Yoshi will be in. First, they have had multiple charicters without their own stage, but they have never had a stage without the character from it. There would be no reason to make a stage if the character wasn't in the game. Second, Yoshi is a very iconic character. Yoshi is huge for Nintendo, and the chances of taking out such a huge character is extremely low. It is equaly unlikely that they will take out a character that has represented their series/subseries in a previous Smash. Despite all this though, it is a trailer, which means it does not necessarily represent actual gameplay. I can guarentee, though, that Yoshi is in. Also, I just want to add, in response to the above, that stages have generally represented a series instead of individual characters, so Marth and Roy are really the only two who didn't have their own stage. Unoriginal Username 04:13, 28 January 2007 (UTC) (AAAAHHHH, I keep forgeting to sign my posts...)
Virtually everyone believes characters like Yoshi, Captain Falcon, Jigglypuff, etc. are going to be in the game, however I (along with many users) will not tolerate characters that are currently only speculated on being put in the article. BassxForte 01:27, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
No rudeness intended but Sukkechi you need to stop insulting people you pompous big-headed idiot.
After seeing a number of people trying to add Krystal into the character list as speculative information I feel it must be said, the inclusion of Krystal is currently a speculative piece of information and does not belong on this page, Wikipedia is not a place for speculation, it is a place for facts and rarly is original research or speculation allowed, thank you. BassxForte 22:38, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm just getting sick of how people are treating this page, it seems like we can't go a whole day without it getting vandilized, *sigh*. BassxForte 02:33, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
You don't even use that name without giving it proper respect! There is no SSBB without IT!
Actually, I'm the one who has been posting this several times, and no, I'm not a fan boy of her, I just thought I was telling the truth about her having a good chance to get in the game. Sorry for any inconvenious, I wont post it anymore, I promise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.177.45.75 ( talk • contribs)
Hmph. I tried to revive her article, but nooooooo... -- Luigifan 12:00, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
I don't know who added the section on Jigglypuff or why it's not accessible, but it needs to be edited pretty badly. It makes the page look pretty unprofessional. -- Cabez 02:06, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
I agree it should be taken off but maybe there could be a possible characters list because characters like sonic and donkey kong are quite likely-- 80.43.127.41 13:31, 27 January 2007 (UTC)conserned user
I agree with protecting the page, I'm getting tired of reverting incorrect info, although it seems more of people purposly trying to vandalize the page and less people adding characters they want. BassxForte 04:46, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
"It should be noted that in the first trailers for Super Smash Bros. Melee (originally shown at E³ 2001), a number of stages that turned out either to be heavily modified in the final game, or to not be in the final game at all, could be seen.[14]"
Looking over the trailers, this doesn't appear to be very true. The only notable changes I observed are that the background in the Mushroom Kingdom adventure stage is different, the classic Mushroom Kingdom stage has it's pipes removed, the Yoshi's Story stage has a slightly different shaped platform, and the lab building in Great Bay was enterable. None of this is could really be considered "heavily modified" and there were certainly no stages shown that didn't turn up in the final game. Drexx 03:20, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone know what Pikachu "Smash" move is?
Source: http://www.smashbros.com/en/movie/index.html 21:09, 1 February 2007 (UTC)Irockyo1
I noticed that there was no romanization of the Japanese Wario and Mario. Can someone add it, or is it identical to the English version? bibliomaniac 1 5 05:10, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
People should just shut up about the release date! Talking frequently about it won't make it come out any sooner! Can can people just not talk about it until it is actually confirmed!!! -- TheGreenLink 23:19, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Everyone knows that SSBB will be released sometime in 2007 but this article confirms it will be released AFTER June 25 2007 because Pokemon Battle Revolution is the FIRST online game for the Nintendo Wii.
http://wiinintendo.net/category/first-look/ Go down the the GDC 2007: Online Date Set
I removed references from the article to "Super Smash" attacks, as the article itself said that this was a speculative term that was not confirmed by Nintendo. I have replaced this term with "special attacks," which is more descriptive and less prognosticative. Unless we have a reliable source stating that these moves are in fact called "Super Smash" attacks, the term should not be included in the article. - Chardish 06:02, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
We need to archive this page. It's too long. - Linkmasta 01:43, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
I second that -- Powerslave ( talk - contribs) 04:37, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Strongly agree -- Viridis 04:41, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Hey, you guys remember from the new trailer that they show that stage with the Atlus-esque guy holding up the platform, and other platforms being around with torches and stuff all over the place?
Well, any word on where that stage is from or anything? Any ideas/rumors circulating about that stage? I anxiously await any info. Thanks! AnujSuper9 20:48, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Some people assume it's the inside of that Fire Emblem castle that was also shown in the trailers. No confirmation on that, though.. -- Powerslave ( talk - contribs) 23:33, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
One thing I noticed is that under Stages on the Wiki page, it says: A stage based off Metal Gear Solid, and the stage is Shadow moses island.- Undertakerz0, Nintendo nSider Forums
I was reading Gamepro the other day and saw that you can play as a Nintendog. Should somebody add this to the fighter list? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.168.68.91 ( talk) 01:52, 8 February 2007 (UTC).
yeah, the Nintendog is an ITEM, though the item itself that activates it hasn't been seen. it's thought that the Nintendog is used to block the screen. johnny's pizza 23:01, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
I am going to treat any information provided by the media as any information here on Wikipedia; not valid until there are valid resources stating it as true (as in, you won't find info on Wikipedia that doesn't meet this standard). And in this case, the only valid source will be Nintendo themselves. The media cannot be trusted with this matter. Why, I read in Game Informer that this game will be out in June!? Oh wow, why haven't I heard this news everywhere?! Why? Cause it's a load of BS to sell more magazines. AnujSuper9 04:12, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
In the second paragraph under "Items and Abilities," it is mentioned that while performing their special attacks, it should be noted that only Mario is seen grabbing an orb. But shouldn't it also be noted that Link and Kirby are seen with the same fiery aura as Mario when he obtained the orb?-- <;b>the ninth bright shiner talk 00:44, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
You could add that if you want, but it's not crutial Powerslave Talk 01:17, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
7 archives already, and the game hasn't even come out yet. I'm predicting a flow of edits when it comes out. bibliomaniac 1 5 00:49, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
If you really want to speculate about characters go to the super mario wiki, they have a list on their brawl page about who has a good chance to return and who doesn't, also, i beg of you, DON'T add your speculation to this page! BassxForte 18:15, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Let me assure you, I like speculating about the subject of characters, and their are a few specific characters I want in the game, but that information doesn't belong on wikipedia, I have already sent a letter to Nintendo asking for my desired characters to appear, now all I can do is wait... and hope... BassxForte 07:21, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Can anyone identify the female character snake is fighting in this screenshot and more importantly should she be added to the confirmed characters list? http://www.smashbros.com/en/pics/img/pic12.jpg 69.115.231.177 13:40, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Super Smash Brothers Brawl game director Masahiro Sakurai spoke to a Tokyo radio show, "The Gaming Show," and revealed this information [4]
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AHEM >_> - Sukecchi 01:42, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Apparently, Nintendo got permission from SE to use Sora in Brawl. Add? Toajaller3146 03:52, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
KH had a great selling GBA game, and apparently Nintendo wanted permission from SE. Sora is not in ANY ZFinal Fantasy game. he's an KH exclusive. Read rumors on MANY sites. I'll contact Nintendo and ask. Toajaller3146 04:14, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Aye, the Sora thing was just a rumor that's still spreading through message boards. It's not totally impossible, but there's nothing to suggest it's true Powerslave ( talk- contribs) 01:53, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Emailed nintendo about it, awaiting response- if i hear good news, ill add it in. Toajaller3146 03:11, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Well that's good. Don't get your hopes up for a response, though. 90% of their emails are machine-automated Powerslave ( talk- contribs) 04:05, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Funny thing is, one time I sent a letter (through mail, not email) to Nintendo about Mario Party 6 I think and I actually got a response back that wasn't computer automated. Anyway, even if you do get a response back, nobody would believe you because you could easily make it up... DarthJango42 04:47, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
If anything, the reason they got square licenses(based on there's usually some truth in a rumor) was to ass some SMRPG characters to which square owns everything except the original Nintendo characters. Sora3087 19:13, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
STOP BEING IDOITS!That INCLUDES 4channers!STOP F******* UP THE PAGE!IF IT'S true AND has a CLAIM to back it up (a REAL Claim then you can add it.If Not then GTFO! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JunjiHiroma ( talk • contribs) 03:09, 21 February 2007 (UTC).
Please do not act nasty in your edits, please be civil, if your tired of vandilism and/or well meaning but unneeded information just request the page to be protected. BassxForte 03:21, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
take a chill pill. Your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man 01:46, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Please, people, stop modifying Brawl's page for no reason. I also can't wait for the game to come out, but why do you keep adding useless stuff? We've all seen the pictures, there's like 20 in all, we'll have better pictures later on this year, so you should wait before putting pictures on this page. Also, someone apparently erased a few things from the ending part of the page for no reason (Spaz_Attack3000: That was me. I go to the NSider Super Smash Bros board almost every day, since before that E3, and continuing after it. I deleted that last chunk of text because it has all been proven to be no more than a collaboration of rumors. There is no eveidence that Sonic is going to be in Brawl. If you don't mind, I ask that you, or anyone who can, edit at the top of the paragraph that information on Sonic in Brawl is completely rumor, nothing more.), and someone else tried to put it back but it's full of mistakes! Seriously, the page should be locked until someone gets new, official informations about the game. If wikipedia was about making speculations about things, Brawl's page would be three times bigger than how it is now... Bleako 16:05, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Though the problem will probably be reduced now that the page is semi-protected, I have made two templates in case someone adds incorrect, unverified information. It is like a warning template, explaining people why their edits have been reverted, which you can leave on their talk page.
JackSparrow Ninja 21:40, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. However, adding content without citing a reliable source is not consistent with our policy of verifiability. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you are certain this information is correct, please add a reliable reference to verify the information. Thank you.
I am just testing it out. Looks good :D Tinkleheimer 22:23, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
I Read from somewhere that Megaman was the creators number 1 sugjested character. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 204.49.209.110 ( talk • contribs) 15:30, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
I don't know about that, I've always read they're more interested in Sonic as a 3rd party character. Either way, I don't think it's worth mentioning. Maybe if someone found a way the info could fit (and source it), it would be alright. Anyone else's thoughts? Powerslave ( talk- contribs) 21:47, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
only put it there if its been confirmed by Nintendo johnny's pizza 22:06, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
In the edit box, I saw the following comment: The Sky stage has been proven to be a Kid Icarus stage, the statue in the back is a giant statue of Palutena from the games. Check the discussion for a picture comparison. So,why put it in the comments where you can only see it if you look at the edit box, and not the main article? Wikiman232 07:39, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Someone seriously needs to archive this page. It's way too big. -- AgreeneyedFox 05:33, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Agreed. I suggested that earlier but somebody said that the page will be archived when new info comes out. -- Linkmasta 03:43, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
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It has been confirmed by Nintendo that SSBB will be released on March 15, 2007. The June 1st release date is invalid. It is available for Pre-Order on http://www.bestbuy.com (and possibly a few more sites.)
Edit: It is actually ONLY available for pre-order on www.bestbuy.com. order now! Available march 15!
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by SuperWiki5 ( talk • contribs) 22:55, 30 January 2007 (UTC).
Best Buy is not a reliable source. They use those as fillers only, to "let" people know about the release date. No official release date has been made. Aramjm 00:15, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Nintendo has released all the Q1 titles and Brawl is not among them, so this is obviously not true. 199.126.137.209 00:17, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Oh really? check the website... it'll be there. 24.128.186.205 21:54, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Best Buy sells the games. They don't make them. Besides, if it were true, then Sakurai would be releasing more info, as it says on the site. This question is on our FAQ. Read it. Aramjm 23:18, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
I never said best buy makes the games u idiot! SuperWiki5 23:57, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
best buy is almost always wrong... they had aboout 5 release dates for Zelda tp! -- TheGreenLink 23:19, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
He wasn't trying to say you were stupid or whatever. He was trying to clear this up. Anyway, GL is right, TP had constantly changing release dates, none of them right, except the last one. 68.74.7.123 01:17, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
This is ridiculous. It's a store listing. This is hardly "confirmed by Nintendo." 72.49.8.57 21:18, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
^what he said. They just tack a date and claim its the release date. Aramjm 21:21, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
The Canadian version of best buy says that Brawl will be released on Nov. 30, 07 and jigglypuff is a confirmed character?! Obviously they're not reliable at all! 24.82.173.110 03:38, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
now BB says its due on 2/28/08 wait! now its 12/31/07~~union_K
...no. Leave the date to Nintendo, not to retailers, who are almost always wrong. 67.38.2.206 23:17, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't know, they released the Guitar Hero 2 songlist a week before it came out (in response to information). But then they did announce the release date months in advance. Sam 05:56, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
There was a time when Bestbuy said that Kingdom Hearts 2 was coming out some time in November 2005 or something like that. The people at Gamefaqs had a field day with joke topics. Mavrickindigo 02:55, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
At this time the development studio is iffy. On the official SSBB page, Sakurai introduces himself from Sora ( http://www.smashbros.com/en/main.html). However the splash page proceding that still reads copyright 2006 Nintendo/HAL Labs. ( http://www.smashbros.com/en/index.html) I think there should be something in the article mentioning both studios. 72.49.8.57 18:55, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
The voice of Ganondorf, Takashi Nagasako has apparently joined the voices list of brawl, that's according to imdb. Should this be mentioned?
Shouldn't it be put that you CAN use the Wii Classic Controller? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.16.113.148 ( talk)
The Classic controller is incompatible with games that use GC and/or Wii contollers, so its unusable. Please sign your posts with four ~ to sign your post. 67.38.17.46 20:00, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Wrong. They haven't stated if you can use EITHER. For right now, which controller to use is still up in the air. Don't assume. Spindash Shoryuken 22:18, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Read the article. It says that the Wiimote and the GC controller are usable. Seeing how the Classic is unusable on GC games, it's unlikely that it will be usable in the game. 68.74.9.113 01:25, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
I never even suggested putting it on the article, and you guys keep pointing fingers at me. 68.74.0.82 20:44, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Sakurai said that the Wiimote might be used for minigames. I could get the link, but I'm not in the mood right now Fliptroopa 18:55, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
Source now. Wait. *reads article* He won't use any motion for minigames. Nice try Aramjm
I think that this is quite possible. They could even have it write to the GC memory card, though they wouldn't. The Wii-mote is not usable, only GC and Classic.
He didn'y say anything for not using the wiimote. Then again, Tenkaichi 2 can use all three... but speculation doesn't belong here 68.73.7.71 16:01, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
You guys need to start reading more and stop acting like you know it all. The Wiimote has been CONFIRMED. This isn't a GCN game. Christ.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.49.8.57 ( talk • contribs)
Number 1. Don't use "Christ" like that, you will offend some people. (so f'ing what?) Number 2. It has been hinted that the game will use the GCN controller, I would particuarly perfer that, I'm very much against using the remote thing to play a smash bros. game. BassxForte 02:45, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
I have never heard that the GCN controller was hinted. they said you could use it the good ol' classic melee way.... but they didn't say it exactly like that...
How would you actually be able to play smash bros on the wii's controler? It's too fast paced.
if you read the article, there is a link to here: http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/707/707504p1.html this mentions an interview with the designer where he said too much motion control would ruin the game and specifically hinted at using gamecube controllers. as far as i'm aware, this is what we're basing our information on (and there are many other websites that report the same information). please read the article and references before contesting them. however, if anybody knows something we don't and has an authoritative link to prove it, we'll be more than happy to include it. Djchallis 08:11, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Any and all of you can go to the Smash Bros. Dojo, the official site, and read Sakurai's interview with Famitsu (I believe, might have been a different publication though). He clearly sidesteps the topic about controlling it with the Wiimote making it, although not explicitly, clear that he himself was interested in developing the game to be controlled with the GCN controller also commenting about how the design of the GCN controller itself was designed with Smash Bros. in mind (in addition to several other games, of course). AnujSuper9 04:05, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Really? 24.82.173.110 03:23, 5 February 2007 (UTC)0
That link is from an interview that is nearly a year old. Anything more recent? Trcrev 20:48, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
When I got the Wii, it came with a "classic controller" that was the traditional two-handed controller, maybe will use that for brawl, but that speculation shouldn't be added to the main article. BassxForte 18:10, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
The game is sais to be compatible to the GameCube controler, as when they experimented with the motion sensors they felt it just made it more complicated. However, this does not have to mean that the normal Wiimote+nunchuk won't be usable, only that the motion sensing and pointer fuktions will not be used. 213.67.208.199 20:00, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
The GC controler is not sold anymore over here in the uk (any shop i've been to anyway) so making brawl GC controler would really mess things up over here. Also, the game could easily use the Wii-mote for gameplay. C for jump-z for defend (combined with A for grab) control stick to move, a for standard b for special... you can get all the moves of SSBM in the wii controler. It really could go either way.-- Brendoshi 20:59, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
If you click on the Super Smash Bros. Brawl Update link on the Wii main site ( http://wii.nintendo.com), you'll see that they've removed Brawl from the logo, and put Dojo. In fact, it just says 'Smash Bros. Dojo!!' Is this some joke, or is it official by Nintendo? Either way, I'm bringing it up here for consideration in the article name change. Sorani172 13:27, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, then! I should've paid more attention to the site. Sorani172 13:39, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
I can say, hand on heart, that I was never aware of that FAQs page. That should've been put there months ago... with an additional notice that it answers such questions as what goes on with the dojo picture on that site and why we have the developers listed as they are. Also, it's a good thing you guys aren't being too harsh with this latest guy's mistake, though I must say that if it were somewhat harsher, it definitely would break Don't Bite the Newbies. It's great the FAQ link was put there, overall. :) Erik Jensen ( Appreciate| Donate) 03:08, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
As a sort of meaningless effort for posterity, I have researched all the archives for this talk page, and with the exception of archive 4, every one of the archives has a section asking this very question. Therefore, this discussion here marks the seventh time somebody has looked at the site's name and interpreted it as a name change for Brawl. Heh, most other internet discussions would adopt it as a running joke at that point. But this should clarify that it's not been discussed "countless" times, it's been discussed only enough times that it can be counted on two hands. I can link the other six archived discussions if you'd like. Hugs and kisses, Erik Jensen ( Appreciate| Donate) 21:06, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Dense. Obviously the name of the official site. 72.49.8.57 18:58, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
The article says: "Though some of Pikachu's trademark attacks are shown in the E³ trailer, including Thunder, Thunderbolt, and Quick Attack, its Super Smash has yet to be seen." I believe the instruction manual for SSBM calls the move "Thunderjolt", not "ThunderBolt". Is there some other primary source suggesting otherwise?
If someone with editing power makes that change, they might also want to format that whole movelist (begginning with "including") as a parenthetical phrase instead. I belive it would make the sentance structure more apperent then those ambiguous commas. ~~William Morgan
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.139.132.187 ( talk) 07:23, 18 December 2006 (UTC).
here it is [1] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Marioman12 ( talk • contribs) 21:51, 18 December 2006 (UTC).
I think that we should change saying that Nintendo made Link look more realistic because thats only half of what they did. According to the game The Legend of Zelda: The Twilight Princess, he also matured, making him look differently. Colin Reding 00:07, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't we archive this page? It's getting kinda long... -- Linkmasta 01:52, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
I moved all discussion before December 9 to Archive 7 since this talk page was getting to be about 44 kilobytes long. s d 3 1 4 1 5 final exams! 13:02, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
i was watching the trailer again ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62IfHDBCJOo0). and i noticed that between 00:41-00:43, that the way pikachu walks has been replaced with hops...like a kangaroo. Should we say something about that in the article? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.114.214.59 ( talk) 18:01, 23 December 2006 (UTC).
So does anyone else think that the new crawling animation/ability added is going to either completely stop or interrupt Wavedashing? Sora3087 07:16, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
We will have to wait and see. I don't know if characters are able to jump at all in that mode, I don't even know how they will attack. It is just a matter of time. Tinkleheimer 07:37, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
The article currently says the game's engine is a modified SSBM engine. Is there any proof of this? And shouldn't there be a citation? If someone can't come up with this then the "Engine" part should be removed. Personally, I was under the impression that they created the game from scratch for the Wii, but I have no evidence suggesting this besides the fact that they created an entire development studio just for this game. -- IG-64 15:48, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Removed edit from User:Ibanez RYM. - FMF| contact 23:08, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Its unlikely but that doesn't mean that they won't. FMF| contact 18:10, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
One thing's for sure, the game will look better. Shaders and bloom effects are now possible, thanks to the Wii's new graphic card. Other than that... there's no use to remake something that has already proven to be good. I think we might see some differences with the computer's AI, though. -- Bleako 23:35, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
People have, multiple times, changed all instances of "Super Smash" moves to "Brawl" moves, stating it is the official name but not giving a cite. Any reasoning behind this? One edit even changed "Super Smash emblems" to "Brawl emblems", even though it's referring to an icon that was seen in the earlier Super Smash Bros. games. -- HeroicJay 00:10, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
I had previously changed the names to refer to them as unnamed special attacks quite a long time ago, but was reverted. The problem with fan names is there is no way to prove which name is more frequently used, and even so I think it's strongly discouraged to use fan made names. 199.126.137.209 00:39, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
It seems premature to change the regular page to include Sonic based off one article ( http://gonintendo.com/?p=11432), but I thought at least I would list it here on the talk page in case other sources appear to confirm (or deny) this posting since no doubt it will become a major topic of discussion in the coming days. What do others think of the legitimacy of this statement from this magazine? Seth0708 20:03, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Actually, that scan is from the Swedish verson of the official nintendo magazine.
After looking at the comments posted on the site, they say N+ is a new magazine that just came out today, and it is from the makers of a few other credible magazines. And it is also The Official Magazine of Nintendo (I believe). If the article is real or not, I don't know. Tinkleheimer 01:43, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Should warnings be given to editors (like in the case to not add suggestive character) to not use this magazine as a source for Sonic until Nintendo confirms anything? magiciandude 02:23, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
My friend translated it as: "Wario, Link and Pikachu is what we'll see and play as Solid Snake, Sonic The Hedgehog, Samus without a suit, Fox McCloud, Pit from Kid Icarus and Meta Knight who we know from Kirby." The Legendary Raccoon Fox: RingtailedFox • Talk • Stalk 22:16, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
There's only one problem, we cannot constitute it as fact (1) from a new magazine that no one really knows about (2) Why hasn't Nintendo Power, the director, etc said anything yet? ok I lied, that's more than one problem. FMF| contact 22:24, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
The English aren't always going to be the first to get info. I am not saying this information is credible yet, but there is a possibility of it being credible in the future.
Nintendo of Europe is somewhat known for accidentally leaking information early. They revealed Paper Mario 2 and Warioware for the Gamecube quite a ways before Nintendo actually announced the games. I'm not saying it's confirmed, but, the "nobody else has said anything" reason for it being fake isn't really closing the book on it. I agree that until it's confirmed it should be treated as speculation, but dismissing it as a hoax with little to no reasoning behind it is just as silly as adding Sonic to the official roster at this point. If something comes of it, it would make an interesting note in the article that Sonic was announced on accident by a magazine in Europe, but I'm not sure it should even be included in the article at all until something's confirmed. Wikipedia's not a book of speculation. 68.202.33.218 09:00, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm Swedish, and can confirm that this is at least not fake. Whether or not it's credible is another issue. 83.255.67.167 20:24, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Excuse me, but I've got the magazine as a whole. I live in a suburb of Stockholm (Huddinge) and my little brother brought the magazine for me. While I didn't find anything that was remiscent to the clip, the article mentioned Sonic the Hedgehog as a confirmed character. We'll just have to wait for Sakurai to annouce it, or e-mail him that. I could also speak with the guys in +N about the thing. 83.183.203.58 20:38, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
If it were really a ground-breaking secret that only that magazine knew, I don't think they would surreptitiously put Sonic in the middle of that list. I think they casually placed him in there, purposely trying to start a riot (and it worked..). - Power Slave 04:14, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
eehhh... i read that magazine and there is no picture of sonic and the crew thought that the sonic rumor was a confirmed fact and wrote it down like a fact, thats it! it was just a silly misstake and nothing else! - Anton the Swede 16:00, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Anyone here thought of the simple solution of actually ASKING the writers of +N? I can try it, I know one of them is a member at a small message board I know, and I don't think emailing them would be too hard either. 213.67.208.199 20:00, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, how many of us are Swedish? By a coincidence, I am. But I never read +N, and much less know anyone who works on it (do they have a website?). I saw the issue you're on about at a local shop today, but I can't help you with the scanning though. Sorry. Gurko 11:46, 27 February 2007 (UTC) Guys just ask the editors of the magazine and post what they say.I am an avid video game freak and must know Dylan Uzumaki 23:34, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Someone added Diddy Kong to the list of characters. Is this true or did someone just add him with no proof? Takuthehedgehog 02:57, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, it should be in S. Protection. Someone put in Ganondork and Kefka from FFVI awhile back. Vandals, stop being jerks! YEESH! ChromeWulf ZX 01:24, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Well, Diddy Kong is in this game and is initially available, but the game had officially excluded Princess Peach. -- PJ Pete
what proof do you have? johnny's pizza 01:27, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
I cannot read Japanese, and Babelfish doesn't provide anything useful when translating the source given for Meta Knight's fanfare being a rock remix. I see one line that looks like they're considering it ("Whether this time, the meta just knight at lock pitch カービィダンス tune...... with Thinking, we were planned.") but the broken English is too broken for me. Is that really what it says? -- HeroicJay 17:09, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
I edited that section to make "confirm" less on whether it will be and more on what Sakurai said. He plans to make it different. Sakurai's response was to a post that asked that it wouldn't fit Meta Knight's somber demeanour to have the same upbeat Kirby song as his fanfare. "今回、メタナイトだけはロック調でカービィダンス曲かなぁ……と 思って計画しておりました。 I've been thinking about having Meta Knight have more of a rock version of Kirb'y dance tune. I've been planning on it too." Shao-Yoshi 19:24, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
According to a member on Game Faqs, Game Informer stated that Brawl will be released on 6/1/2006. I don't have a copy of the magazine to tell if this is true, but I think of Game Informer to be pretty credible, although we might wait for an official release. Tinkleheimer 19:47, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
A couple of my friends say it does indeed say that. Tinkleheimer 01:51, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
It also says the developer is Sora, after all. Is this confirmation, or are they just guessing like everyone else? - Power Slave 21:58, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
It doesn't seem like a popular news magazine to make up stuff and put it in like that. And it isn't April Fools. I don't know what to do on the status of this... Tinkleheimer 22:00, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
But it isn't like for national magazines to put in random dates as placeholders and companies also. They will normally do 2007 as a placeholder instead of an actual date. I don't know what to actually think, I am thinking of waiting until Nintendo says something, or GI says something in the March issue about the matter. Tinkleheimer 04:00, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
Another source said June 1 a while back, but I don't remember what. It should be in one of the archives. I think "June 1" is the universal placeholder for any release date, since it's just about halfway through the year. - Power Slave 01:49, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Ok now im seeing that King Dede is a playable character.Well I need proof that he is,like a photo of him in the game informer issue. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 151.200.179.213 ( talk) 20:34, 17 January 2007 (UTC).
Here we've been waiting for an answer from Nintendo to confirm online and Wii remote functionality and it's been confirmed since MAY OF LAST YEAR. And it's not just fans--major video game medias, including Gamespot, IGN and GameInformer, have also been waiting for an answer. It must've slipped under the radar. Click on this link to see for yourself:
http://wii.gamespy.com/wii/super-smash-bros-wii/707716p1.html Tj terrorible1
Such as: --the speed of the game will be “moderated” --every character’s ability is being refined from the ground up to allow more freedom in aerial combat --not all characters will return --if they add online functionality to the game, they do not plan to add a ranking system --Sakurai (translated from Japanese to English): "This time, we'd like to stress easiness over the small details of combat, so overall it might become somewhat easier." / "We will create this game with balance in mind."
Also, I looked at the ssbb articles in other languages and the stages are listed like our character section is. Why isn't our stage section like that?
Please sign your posts :D...and can you post a link to this, or is it on the Japanese Dojo Site? Tinkleheimer 23:23, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Of course this information isn't new. But it's important. And you want to know the source? The Japanese official SSBB website--the same source for the following: -there will be 1-2 more third party characters, -all third party characters must have appeared on a Nintendo system. The above are important details about SSBB's gameplay and they need to be added to the articel somewhere. Not adding these details is like leaving out a confirmed character. So add them...NOW!!!
Maybe there should be a list of characters wanted for brawl on the page. Its a good idea because it gives people a good idea of who they might be seeing in the game. Its a bad idea because people would argue about whether soo and so should be on the list. If it were to happed any character that is wanted could be added as long as it fits within the standards(must have been in a nintendo game..ect). Widkid85 21:46, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
Should we also mention that Bill Trinen, the Localization Manager, seen at almost all Nintendo Press Events and a head representative speaker along with Miyamoto and Iwata, was also at the exclusive meeting where Brawl was revealed? AnujSuper9 07:37, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
I was new to Wikipedia when I added those pictures to the Smash Brawl characters section, but why was it considered vandalism or un-necessary. I only added pictures of the new characters. I should have asked permission here first, yes, but what was wrong with it? I'm not trying to confront anyone or anything, I just want to know so that I know not to make the same mistake in the future. Thankyou. AnujSuper9 00:33, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Right now, I'm laughing at the new picture caption at the top of the confirmed characters section. "Hank, the angry drunken midget, Paris Hilton..." DarthJango42 00:39, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
--- it may not be necessary but it is helpful. Why have a free online encyclopedia and not use the freedom of images? A picture is worth a thousand words. Plus it's really cool.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.252.188.143 ( talk • contribs)
Since Brawl is not out yet and Nintendo is mostly keeping its mouth shut, would it be possible if you guys also took a look at Super Smash Bros.?. It's looking a lot like a game guide right now. bibliomaniac 1 5 03:35, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
By the way, this is ShadowUltra speaking, but I can't log in using this computer. 69.244.235.160 03:16, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
I wouldn't be to sure. I think updates (IIRC) came on Twilight Princess quickly before the demo was released. I might be wrong, as it was a while... Aramjm 01:37, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
I've noticed in the Japanese trailer, there is a yoshi stage. I'm pretty shure yoshi will be in ssbb.
Every character in Melee had their own stage, (well... except for the pokemon characters) so it is highly likly that Yoshi will appear in the game, but since he hasn't been officaly confirmed, he should not be put in the article. BassxForte 00:56, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
This is speculation, but I am 100% sure Yoshi will be in. First, they have had multiple charicters without their own stage, but they have never had a stage without the character from it. There would be no reason to make a stage if the character wasn't in the game. Second, Yoshi is a very iconic character. Yoshi is huge for Nintendo, and the chances of taking out such a huge character is extremely low. It is equaly unlikely that they will take out a character that has represented their series/subseries in a previous Smash. Despite all this though, it is a trailer, which means it does not necessarily represent actual gameplay. I can guarentee, though, that Yoshi is in. Also, I just want to add, in response to the above, that stages have generally represented a series instead of individual characters, so Marth and Roy are really the only two who didn't have their own stage. Unoriginal Username 04:13, 28 January 2007 (UTC) (AAAAHHHH, I keep forgeting to sign my posts...)
Virtually everyone believes characters like Yoshi, Captain Falcon, Jigglypuff, etc. are going to be in the game, however I (along with many users) will not tolerate characters that are currently only speculated on being put in the article. BassxForte 01:27, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
No rudeness intended but Sukkechi you need to stop insulting people you pompous big-headed idiot.
After seeing a number of people trying to add Krystal into the character list as speculative information I feel it must be said, the inclusion of Krystal is currently a speculative piece of information and does not belong on this page, Wikipedia is not a place for speculation, it is a place for facts and rarly is original research or speculation allowed, thank you. BassxForte 22:38, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm just getting sick of how people are treating this page, it seems like we can't go a whole day without it getting vandilized, *sigh*. BassxForte 02:33, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
You don't even use that name without giving it proper respect! There is no SSBB without IT!
Actually, I'm the one who has been posting this several times, and no, I'm not a fan boy of her, I just thought I was telling the truth about her having a good chance to get in the game. Sorry for any inconvenious, I wont post it anymore, I promise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.177.45.75 ( talk • contribs)
Hmph. I tried to revive her article, but nooooooo... -- Luigifan 12:00, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
I don't know who added the section on Jigglypuff or why it's not accessible, but it needs to be edited pretty badly. It makes the page look pretty unprofessional. -- Cabez 02:06, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
I agree it should be taken off but maybe there could be a possible characters list because characters like sonic and donkey kong are quite likely-- 80.43.127.41 13:31, 27 January 2007 (UTC)conserned user
I agree with protecting the page, I'm getting tired of reverting incorrect info, although it seems more of people purposly trying to vandalize the page and less people adding characters they want. BassxForte 04:46, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
"It should be noted that in the first trailers for Super Smash Bros. Melee (originally shown at E³ 2001), a number of stages that turned out either to be heavily modified in the final game, or to not be in the final game at all, could be seen.[14]"
Looking over the trailers, this doesn't appear to be very true. The only notable changes I observed are that the background in the Mushroom Kingdom adventure stage is different, the classic Mushroom Kingdom stage has it's pipes removed, the Yoshi's Story stage has a slightly different shaped platform, and the lab building in Great Bay was enterable. None of this is could really be considered "heavily modified" and there were certainly no stages shown that didn't turn up in the final game. Drexx 03:20, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone know what Pikachu "Smash" move is?
Source: http://www.smashbros.com/en/movie/index.html 21:09, 1 February 2007 (UTC)Irockyo1
I noticed that there was no romanization of the Japanese Wario and Mario. Can someone add it, or is it identical to the English version? bibliomaniac 1 5 05:10, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
People should just shut up about the release date! Talking frequently about it won't make it come out any sooner! Can can people just not talk about it until it is actually confirmed!!! -- TheGreenLink 23:19, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Everyone knows that SSBB will be released sometime in 2007 but this article confirms it will be released AFTER June 25 2007 because Pokemon Battle Revolution is the FIRST online game for the Nintendo Wii.
http://wiinintendo.net/category/first-look/ Go down the the GDC 2007: Online Date Set
I removed references from the article to "Super Smash" attacks, as the article itself said that this was a speculative term that was not confirmed by Nintendo. I have replaced this term with "special attacks," which is more descriptive and less prognosticative. Unless we have a reliable source stating that these moves are in fact called "Super Smash" attacks, the term should not be included in the article. - Chardish 06:02, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
We need to archive this page. It's too long. - Linkmasta 01:43, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
I second that -- Powerslave ( talk - contribs) 04:37, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Strongly agree -- Viridis 04:41, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Hey, you guys remember from the new trailer that they show that stage with the Atlus-esque guy holding up the platform, and other platforms being around with torches and stuff all over the place?
Well, any word on where that stage is from or anything? Any ideas/rumors circulating about that stage? I anxiously await any info. Thanks! AnujSuper9 20:48, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Some people assume it's the inside of that Fire Emblem castle that was also shown in the trailers. No confirmation on that, though.. -- Powerslave ( talk - contribs) 23:33, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
One thing I noticed is that under Stages on the Wiki page, it says: A stage based off Metal Gear Solid, and the stage is Shadow moses island.- Undertakerz0, Nintendo nSider Forums
I was reading Gamepro the other day and saw that you can play as a Nintendog. Should somebody add this to the fighter list? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.168.68.91 ( talk) 01:52, 8 February 2007 (UTC).
yeah, the Nintendog is an ITEM, though the item itself that activates it hasn't been seen. it's thought that the Nintendog is used to block the screen. johnny's pizza 23:01, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
I am going to treat any information provided by the media as any information here on Wikipedia; not valid until there are valid resources stating it as true (as in, you won't find info on Wikipedia that doesn't meet this standard). And in this case, the only valid source will be Nintendo themselves. The media cannot be trusted with this matter. Why, I read in Game Informer that this game will be out in June!? Oh wow, why haven't I heard this news everywhere?! Why? Cause it's a load of BS to sell more magazines. AnujSuper9 04:12, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
In the second paragraph under "Items and Abilities," it is mentioned that while performing their special attacks, it should be noted that only Mario is seen grabbing an orb. But shouldn't it also be noted that Link and Kirby are seen with the same fiery aura as Mario when he obtained the orb?-- <;b>the ninth bright shiner talk 00:44, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
You could add that if you want, but it's not crutial Powerslave Talk 01:17, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
7 archives already, and the game hasn't even come out yet. I'm predicting a flow of edits when it comes out. bibliomaniac 1 5 00:49, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
If you really want to speculate about characters go to the super mario wiki, they have a list on their brawl page about who has a good chance to return and who doesn't, also, i beg of you, DON'T add your speculation to this page! BassxForte 18:15, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Let me assure you, I like speculating about the subject of characters, and their are a few specific characters I want in the game, but that information doesn't belong on wikipedia, I have already sent a letter to Nintendo asking for my desired characters to appear, now all I can do is wait... and hope... BassxForte 07:21, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Can anyone identify the female character snake is fighting in this screenshot and more importantly should she be added to the confirmed characters list? http://www.smashbros.com/en/pics/img/pic12.jpg 69.115.231.177 13:40, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Super Smash Brothers Brawl game director Masahiro Sakurai spoke to a Tokyo radio show, "The Gaming Show," and revealed this information [4]
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AHEM >_> - Sukecchi 01:42, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Apparently, Nintendo got permission from SE to use Sora in Brawl. Add? Toajaller3146 03:52, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
KH had a great selling GBA game, and apparently Nintendo wanted permission from SE. Sora is not in ANY ZFinal Fantasy game. he's an KH exclusive. Read rumors on MANY sites. I'll contact Nintendo and ask. Toajaller3146 04:14, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Aye, the Sora thing was just a rumor that's still spreading through message boards. It's not totally impossible, but there's nothing to suggest it's true Powerslave ( talk- contribs) 01:53, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Emailed nintendo about it, awaiting response- if i hear good news, ill add it in. Toajaller3146 03:11, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Well that's good. Don't get your hopes up for a response, though. 90% of their emails are machine-automated Powerslave ( talk- contribs) 04:05, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Funny thing is, one time I sent a letter (through mail, not email) to Nintendo about Mario Party 6 I think and I actually got a response back that wasn't computer automated. Anyway, even if you do get a response back, nobody would believe you because you could easily make it up... DarthJango42 04:47, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
If anything, the reason they got square licenses(based on there's usually some truth in a rumor) was to ass some SMRPG characters to which square owns everything except the original Nintendo characters. Sora3087 19:13, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
STOP BEING IDOITS!That INCLUDES 4channers!STOP F******* UP THE PAGE!IF IT'S true AND has a CLAIM to back it up (a REAL Claim then you can add it.If Not then GTFO! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JunjiHiroma ( talk • contribs) 03:09, 21 February 2007 (UTC).
Please do not act nasty in your edits, please be civil, if your tired of vandilism and/or well meaning but unneeded information just request the page to be protected. BassxForte 03:21, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
take a chill pill. Your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man 01:46, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Please, people, stop modifying Brawl's page for no reason. I also can't wait for the game to come out, but why do you keep adding useless stuff? We've all seen the pictures, there's like 20 in all, we'll have better pictures later on this year, so you should wait before putting pictures on this page. Also, someone apparently erased a few things from the ending part of the page for no reason (Spaz_Attack3000: That was me. I go to the NSider Super Smash Bros board almost every day, since before that E3, and continuing after it. I deleted that last chunk of text because it has all been proven to be no more than a collaboration of rumors. There is no eveidence that Sonic is going to be in Brawl. If you don't mind, I ask that you, or anyone who can, edit at the top of the paragraph that information on Sonic in Brawl is completely rumor, nothing more.), and someone else tried to put it back but it's full of mistakes! Seriously, the page should be locked until someone gets new, official informations about the game. If wikipedia was about making speculations about things, Brawl's page would be three times bigger than how it is now... Bleako 16:05, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Though the problem will probably be reduced now that the page is semi-protected, I have made two templates in case someone adds incorrect, unverified information. It is like a warning template, explaining people why their edits have been reverted, which you can leave on their talk page.
JackSparrow Ninja 21:40, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. However, adding content without citing a reliable source is not consistent with our policy of verifiability. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you are certain this information is correct, please add a reliable reference to verify the information. Thank you.
I am just testing it out. Looks good :D Tinkleheimer 22:23, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
I Read from somewhere that Megaman was the creators number 1 sugjested character. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 204.49.209.110 ( talk • contribs) 15:30, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
I don't know about that, I've always read they're more interested in Sonic as a 3rd party character. Either way, I don't think it's worth mentioning. Maybe if someone found a way the info could fit (and source it), it would be alright. Anyone else's thoughts? Powerslave ( talk- contribs) 21:47, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
only put it there if its been confirmed by Nintendo johnny's pizza 22:06, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
In the edit box, I saw the following comment: The Sky stage has been proven to be a Kid Icarus stage, the statue in the back is a giant statue of Palutena from the games. Check the discussion for a picture comparison. So,why put it in the comments where you can only see it if you look at the edit box, and not the main article? Wikiman232 07:39, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Someone seriously needs to archive this page. It's way too big. -- AgreeneyedFox 05:33, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Agreed. I suggested that earlier but somebody said that the page will be archived when new info comes out. -- Linkmasta 03:43, 5 March 2007 (UTC)