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Could we have a different picture for the gameplay section? The picture of Mario begining his Final Smash doesn't represent the general gameplay. I don't have time to upload a picture myself, which is why i'm asking. Tuesday42 11:55, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Theres far too much new gameplay details to pick out a certain pic that represents all aspects. The mario picks represents one of the more major new gameplay introductions, the Final Smash, which was neither in melee or the original. I'd just leave it for now. But I suppose a better pic would be the one of mario, link, pikachu, and kirby reaching for the smash ball [1], I prefer that one a bit. If someone else finds a better pic though, of Final Smash or something else that represents the gameplay better i can be made to change. 68.195.110.145 19:11, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Okay when people are discussing on here can I request two things? One: Indent your posts. If you want to see how the formatting is done, I'll direct you to the powerhouse of discussions: WP:AN/I. While not perfect, people try to indent on every post, unless they need to respond to a particular post several lines back. Resetting the indent is either done for that reason or if the indenting becomes too far in. I'm not perfect, and no one is, but at least make an effort. Second: please try to spell correctly. I'm a terrible speller, but the spelling has reached a point where it is impeding on the general understanding of what is trying to be said. I know no one cares in forums, I get that, but here, what you say may be quoted later, responded to, or read. Nothing ever disappears here. If you blank it, it is in the history and will be restored, if an admin deletes it, other admins can still see it. I'm not great, no one is, but at least make an attempt. Okay down off the soapbox now. -- Clyde ( talk) 18:29, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
The development section now says that the developer is Sora. First, where is the reference for this? And second, if it is true why isn't it on the "Developer(s)" part of the information box? It still reads "TBA". Unknownlight 00:06, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
It's a big, hodgepodge of a team. You got people from everywhere. Why not put under Developer "The Studio" and add the reference to it from when Sakurai called the developement team, "The Studio." (Course, now he just mentions Sora all the time so that might be "The Studio" now.) ( Zojo 17:10, 9 June 2007 (UTC))
This sound familiar, maybe because I suggested it up back in Archive 7... FMF| contact 18:00, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
Can someone find a statement from Sakurai when he called them "The Studio" so we can use it as a source? -- myselfalso 14:24, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Zojo. We should put "The Studio" until a name is officially given, since Sakurai has called it "The Studio" himself. --myselfalso 17:16, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
He has already confirmed that the studio name is Sora, go ahead and check it out on the site.
As for the source for "The Studio", I don't think it's necessary we need it. However, as there is a development section in the article, I suppose it can be in there, but I stand by opinion. --
Lostmeatthelost
21:39, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
Also, consider that while WE know who he is, people who play these games more casually might not know him. That being said, many of those people would visit the site, and see a quote from "some random guy." Having the company he works for would give his quote more meaning to those people. DurinsBane87 21:59, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
Like I said, it's a hodgepodge of people who probably wouldn't be working together otherwise. It was a group created to make Super Smash Bros Brawl. "The Studio" is the only name they've been called. ( Zojo 22:10, 11 June 2007 (UTC))
I do want to argue about how ridiculous this is, but my computer keeps crashing. Tuesday42 14:01, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
I went to Hastings today and for some reason I saw a TBA list with Brawl marked as coming out in june. I asked the employees about the source and they said that they get the info from their company. Does anyone think this is possible? If so, is there info we don't know....? -- 24.183.231.30 06:38, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
I seriously doubt that Brawl would come out in June. If it was, then the site would have alot more info. My best guess, by how the site's being updated, is that it will be released somewhere around september-october.
But, never believe what stores say. Why would Nintendo just secretly tell Hastings, and not the rest of the world? -- Kenny2k 06:46, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
please, no more release dates. if they have one, it'll be from Nintendo themselves or an official Nintendo site. anything else is expected to be speculation &/or rumor. FyreNWater 07:42, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
We had a discussion about this on one of the archives. Its been over 3 months since the date Best buy originally put up, and its not on shelves. 75.46.121.48 01:03, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Although it was once whole stages and gameplay were merged there are two reasons why I disagree with this merge.
Except that all of those featured games have been released. There isn't a single featured article on a game that's not out so I don't see how this should follow those featured articles yet. magiciandude ( Talk) ( review) 20:46, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
I agree with keeping the sections merged. I had mentioned this (probably in Archive 14), based on other gaming articles. Just because a game is not released does not mean we shouldn't follow in the example of other good or featured articles. The fact that it isn't released would suggest that there wouldn't be enough information for subsections at all. Only one new stage has been announced; a number of newcomer characters (Pit, Wario, Meta Knight) have been announced. This is why I believe that the characters section deserves to be a subsection and the levels does not. As far as I'm concerned, an article should not be written in the mind of convenience for the editor, but rather for the convenience of the reader, to make it the best article possible. More so, we can't have different standards for not-as-of-yet released games, because those standards could be all over the map depending at what stage of development the game is in. Not to mention the fact that it's a bit bureaucratic. I believe the way it is now is much better than how it was a week ago. -- myselfalso 21:03, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
I see, since I can't argue two against one, I guess that's an instant defeat for me. magiciandude ( Talk) ( review) 21:08, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
Guys, on the "Hugely Anticipated Brawler" talk it was said that on the next NP issue they were going to reveal something new. Well, on the newest issue on the calendar part it was saying something about a character most rumored bearing the name of "Fabio". I think they mispelled Falco, but I don't think that this "Fabio" is the most rumored character. Maybe they revealed another charater. Remember, this is just my opinion. I would like to hear your opinions about it. Mr. Mario 192 16:32, 10 June 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.193.117.66 ( talk • contribs) 16:27, 10 June 2007
Fabio was mentioned a joke. Link provided FMF| contact 23:09, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
As a heads up, it would be best to find alternative references from the media since Smashbros.com is always subject to change again. Just a reminder - use the cite web template for the citations and fill out as much fields as possible. FMF| contact 23:42, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
hey, this is a really good idea. gives those constant editors something constructive to do. if had more time, i'd run through and find alternative links for sources. i guess i'll run through and find broken/relocated links to be fixed. FyreNWater 20:38, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
Speaking of music, what does everyone think of adding a section for music under Development, mentioning the wide collection of composers and the tracks that have been displayed on the site?-- Viridis talk| contributions 08:53, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
We should mention that there's a wide variety of proven composers, but i think it would be far too much to mention specific songs. The only particularly notable thing about the music IS the wide variety of composers. Making a Ridley theme in the game isn't particularly ground breaking DurinsBane87 12:24, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Why does the official brawl site have the ridley fight from metroid when sakurai didnt mention ANYTHING about brawl!! why is that? Did he forget that hes working on brawl, not metroid?-- Demonworks
Even I am reluctant while writing this, because release date suggestions are frowned upon. But to me, AOL looks like a reliable source. Take a gander at this. Winter huh?? Should it be mentioned? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.195.110.145 ( talk • contribs)
o ok now lets just end the discussion here before someone lectures me about no release date being given. I just thought it was from a reliable source and wanted to check it out with u guys. If we all know it'll be in winter, and it's somewhat confirmed, should we put that in the release dates? You know, just Winter 2007 rather than TBA 2007?? 68.195.110.145 21:31, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
How about the only reliable source is Dojo right now? I'm pretty sure that's where we'll hear anything new about the release date first. Notice that the site has a catagory "Notices." ( Zojo 22:26, 13 June 2007 (UTC))
Exactly where is there anything on that article that is a valid reference to why it's called "The Studio"? It's not even mentioned. Dengarde 23:18, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Sakurai did mention "The Studio", it was on DOJO! but it was taken off along with everything else about development after the remodeling a couple of weeks ago. You'll just have to take their word for it and know that he did mention it. 68.195.110.145 17:50, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
The paragraph was getting ridiculously chunky, so I have cut it down. We want a general overview, so most of the information was pointless. If someone want to describe the specific weapon types in a general manner, that would probably be fine. TTN 19:22, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Cut it down? You nearly cut it out!
The section was going to be restored anyway once the game comes out, so let's not inact solutions that involve the complete removal of the sub-section. SAMAS 21:33, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
On the first page of the Super Smash Bros. Brawl, shouldn't it say every character that will be in the game?-- Scotty12 21:24, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
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Could we have a different picture for the gameplay section? The picture of Mario begining his Final Smash doesn't represent the general gameplay. I don't have time to upload a picture myself, which is why i'm asking. Tuesday42 11:55, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Theres far too much new gameplay details to pick out a certain pic that represents all aspects. The mario picks represents one of the more major new gameplay introductions, the Final Smash, which was neither in melee or the original. I'd just leave it for now. But I suppose a better pic would be the one of mario, link, pikachu, and kirby reaching for the smash ball [1], I prefer that one a bit. If someone else finds a better pic though, of Final Smash or something else that represents the gameplay better i can be made to change. 68.195.110.145 19:11, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Okay when people are discussing on here can I request two things? One: Indent your posts. If you want to see how the formatting is done, I'll direct you to the powerhouse of discussions: WP:AN/I. While not perfect, people try to indent on every post, unless they need to respond to a particular post several lines back. Resetting the indent is either done for that reason or if the indenting becomes too far in. I'm not perfect, and no one is, but at least make an effort. Second: please try to spell correctly. I'm a terrible speller, but the spelling has reached a point where it is impeding on the general understanding of what is trying to be said. I know no one cares in forums, I get that, but here, what you say may be quoted later, responded to, or read. Nothing ever disappears here. If you blank it, it is in the history and will be restored, if an admin deletes it, other admins can still see it. I'm not great, no one is, but at least make an attempt. Okay down off the soapbox now. -- Clyde ( talk) 18:29, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
The development section now says that the developer is Sora. First, where is the reference for this? And second, if it is true why isn't it on the "Developer(s)" part of the information box? It still reads "TBA". Unknownlight 00:06, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
It's a big, hodgepodge of a team. You got people from everywhere. Why not put under Developer "The Studio" and add the reference to it from when Sakurai called the developement team, "The Studio." (Course, now he just mentions Sora all the time so that might be "The Studio" now.) ( Zojo 17:10, 9 June 2007 (UTC))
This sound familiar, maybe because I suggested it up back in Archive 7... FMF| contact 18:00, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
Can someone find a statement from Sakurai when he called them "The Studio" so we can use it as a source? -- myselfalso 14:24, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Zojo. We should put "The Studio" until a name is officially given, since Sakurai has called it "The Studio" himself. --myselfalso 17:16, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
He has already confirmed that the studio name is Sora, go ahead and check it out on the site.
As for the source for "The Studio", I don't think it's necessary we need it. However, as there is a development section in the article, I suppose it can be in there, but I stand by opinion. --
Lostmeatthelost
21:39, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
Also, consider that while WE know who he is, people who play these games more casually might not know him. That being said, many of those people would visit the site, and see a quote from "some random guy." Having the company he works for would give his quote more meaning to those people. DurinsBane87 21:59, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
Like I said, it's a hodgepodge of people who probably wouldn't be working together otherwise. It was a group created to make Super Smash Bros Brawl. "The Studio" is the only name they've been called. ( Zojo 22:10, 11 June 2007 (UTC))
I do want to argue about how ridiculous this is, but my computer keeps crashing. Tuesday42 14:01, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
I went to Hastings today and for some reason I saw a TBA list with Brawl marked as coming out in june. I asked the employees about the source and they said that they get the info from their company. Does anyone think this is possible? If so, is there info we don't know....? -- 24.183.231.30 06:38, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
I seriously doubt that Brawl would come out in June. If it was, then the site would have alot more info. My best guess, by how the site's being updated, is that it will be released somewhere around september-october.
But, never believe what stores say. Why would Nintendo just secretly tell Hastings, and not the rest of the world? -- Kenny2k 06:46, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
please, no more release dates. if they have one, it'll be from Nintendo themselves or an official Nintendo site. anything else is expected to be speculation &/or rumor. FyreNWater 07:42, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
We had a discussion about this on one of the archives. Its been over 3 months since the date Best buy originally put up, and its not on shelves. 75.46.121.48 01:03, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Although it was once whole stages and gameplay were merged there are two reasons why I disagree with this merge.
Except that all of those featured games have been released. There isn't a single featured article on a game that's not out so I don't see how this should follow those featured articles yet. magiciandude ( Talk) ( review) 20:46, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
I agree with keeping the sections merged. I had mentioned this (probably in Archive 14), based on other gaming articles. Just because a game is not released does not mean we shouldn't follow in the example of other good or featured articles. The fact that it isn't released would suggest that there wouldn't be enough information for subsections at all. Only one new stage has been announced; a number of newcomer characters (Pit, Wario, Meta Knight) have been announced. This is why I believe that the characters section deserves to be a subsection and the levels does not. As far as I'm concerned, an article should not be written in the mind of convenience for the editor, but rather for the convenience of the reader, to make it the best article possible. More so, we can't have different standards for not-as-of-yet released games, because those standards could be all over the map depending at what stage of development the game is in. Not to mention the fact that it's a bit bureaucratic. I believe the way it is now is much better than how it was a week ago. -- myselfalso 21:03, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
I see, since I can't argue two against one, I guess that's an instant defeat for me. magiciandude ( Talk) ( review) 21:08, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
Guys, on the "Hugely Anticipated Brawler" talk it was said that on the next NP issue they were going to reveal something new. Well, on the newest issue on the calendar part it was saying something about a character most rumored bearing the name of "Fabio". I think they mispelled Falco, but I don't think that this "Fabio" is the most rumored character. Maybe they revealed another charater. Remember, this is just my opinion. I would like to hear your opinions about it. Mr. Mario 192 16:32, 10 June 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.193.117.66 ( talk • contribs) 16:27, 10 June 2007
Fabio was mentioned a joke. Link provided FMF| contact 23:09, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
As a heads up, it would be best to find alternative references from the media since Smashbros.com is always subject to change again. Just a reminder - use the cite web template for the citations and fill out as much fields as possible. FMF| contact 23:42, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
hey, this is a really good idea. gives those constant editors something constructive to do. if had more time, i'd run through and find alternative links for sources. i guess i'll run through and find broken/relocated links to be fixed. FyreNWater 20:38, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
Speaking of music, what does everyone think of adding a section for music under Development, mentioning the wide collection of composers and the tracks that have been displayed on the site?-- Viridis talk| contributions 08:53, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
We should mention that there's a wide variety of proven composers, but i think it would be far too much to mention specific songs. The only particularly notable thing about the music IS the wide variety of composers. Making a Ridley theme in the game isn't particularly ground breaking DurinsBane87 12:24, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Why does the official brawl site have the ridley fight from metroid when sakurai didnt mention ANYTHING about brawl!! why is that? Did he forget that hes working on brawl, not metroid?-- Demonworks
Even I am reluctant while writing this, because release date suggestions are frowned upon. But to me, AOL looks like a reliable source. Take a gander at this. Winter huh?? Should it be mentioned? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.195.110.145 ( talk • contribs)
o ok now lets just end the discussion here before someone lectures me about no release date being given. I just thought it was from a reliable source and wanted to check it out with u guys. If we all know it'll be in winter, and it's somewhat confirmed, should we put that in the release dates? You know, just Winter 2007 rather than TBA 2007?? 68.195.110.145 21:31, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
How about the only reliable source is Dojo right now? I'm pretty sure that's where we'll hear anything new about the release date first. Notice that the site has a catagory "Notices." ( Zojo 22:26, 13 June 2007 (UTC))
Exactly where is there anything on that article that is a valid reference to why it's called "The Studio"? It's not even mentioned. Dengarde 23:18, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Sakurai did mention "The Studio", it was on DOJO! but it was taken off along with everything else about development after the remodeling a couple of weeks ago. You'll just have to take their word for it and know that he did mention it. 68.195.110.145 17:50, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
The paragraph was getting ridiculously chunky, so I have cut it down. We want a general overview, so most of the information was pointless. If someone want to describe the specific weapon types in a general manner, that would probably be fine. TTN 19:22, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Cut it down? You nearly cut it out!
The section was going to be restored anyway once the game comes out, so let's not inact solutions that involve the complete removal of the sub-section. SAMAS 21:33, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
On the first page of the Super Smash Bros. Brawl, shouldn't it say every character that will be in the game?-- Scotty12 21:24, 14 June 2007 (UTC)