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Archived just now. Smashbrosboy (talk) 03:37, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Is the Brawl FAQ going to be deleted tomorrow, or will it stay until a week after, because of all the questions people will be asking after they buy the game? Epass ( talk) 12:46, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
It should be archived. We may need to use it as a model if we plan on creating another FAQ for a future Smash game, or we could help the European Wikipedias out. -- haha169 ( talk) 23:11, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
I believe that the Dojo article should be brought to the deletion review - it's especially notable, and if I recall correctly, Sakurai stated that it received, on average, more than one million hits per day, and more than five million per week. - A Link to the Past (talk) 17:04, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
The list of characters lists "Wolf" from Star Fox and "Toon Link" from Zelda for Brawl. I have seen nothing on the Dojo to that effect. Is it vandalism perhaps? Anyone know the source? -Lagren 198.53.190.240 ( talk) 20:43, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, sorry. Didn't mean to sound so blunt in my earlier posting... I have a copy of it myself. -Lagren 198.53.190.240 ( talk) 08:36, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
It being out in America, it is obvious what the characters names are and cannot be disputed. -- DavidD4scnrt ( talk) 01:02, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
What I was trying to hint to A Link to the Past in my last revert of his edit was that discussion for what he was trying to do really needed to be brought here first, as it's something going against previous consensus decided on for this page. Therefore... let the discussion begin. Should the fact that the only American Mother game had a name change in its release affect what we have listed as Ness and Lucas' series of source? Arrowned ( talk) 12:59, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
You're wrong, there aren't two games in the series called EarthBound because you said it yourself, it was cancelled. They didn't start using Mother in the U.S. until Smash Bros, such as on Lucas' stage. Just like how Square changed Aeris name back to Aerith during the first Kingdom Hearts, this proves that if they were planning on remaking them, they'd go under their original titles. Plus, the series article is called "Mother (series)", not "EarthBound (series)", though the latter is redirected to it. -- Ryu-chan ( Talk | Contributions) 18:45, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
You say Brawl calls the series Earthbound, but I believe there was a trophy calling it the "Mother series". It calls it Earthbound too, though. So going by Brawl (unless I'm totally off on that, but I don't believe I am), Mother and Earthbound are equally viable.
Second, Earthbound Zero really doesn't count for the official series name being Earthbound. It's nothing more than a fan name. The official English name of the first game is Mother and the official English name of the third game is Mother 3. And it can't just be said that "the games are Japan-only so they just use the Japanese names" because some of the Japan-only FE games got new English names too (from some of the stickers).
And if it counts for anything, there were discussions about this both on the Mother series page and earlier on this very page (it's now archived, though). Both groups agreed on calling it Mother. I would say that the series should be labeled as Mother/Earthbound, or maybe Earthbound/Mother. But just saying Earthbound doesn't seem correct (and you'd object to just calling it Mother).
And Earthbound 64 is only proof that Nintendo was using it as the series name, but that doesn't necessarily hold now. Sir Ilpalazzo ( talk) 21:02, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
what you said was a good point. why don't we put "EarthBound (Mother)". because, as stated before, that's what Brawl uses. Ryu-chan
Might be worth a trivial mention somewhere that the word 'Super' was affixed to a lot of titles for the SNES (remember, it stands for SUPER Nintendo Entertainment System). The odd thing is that the Smash Brothers series is the sole continuer of this tradition... what's even weirder is that it started on the N64, not the SNES, so there's no reason for the 'Super' to be there! JaffaCakeLover ( talk) 11:13, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
Under Tabuu it says he controls both Master Hand and Crazy Hand, yet I'm fairly sure Crazy Hand never showed up in the Subspace Emissary. Can anyone offer an explanation for this? 76.230.233.120 ( talk) 20:27, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
A response of more than one word would be appreciated. 76.230.233.120 ( talk) 02:23, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Ummm, I'm pretty sure it's not considered speculation? I mean if Master Hand is being controlled, what's to say Crazy Hand isint? Onepiece226 ( talk) 18:07, 15 March 2008 (UTC)Onepiece226
It's not stated clearly in the game so I think it's speculation. FightingStreet ( talk) 21:43, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Tabuu is kinda wierd. It rhymes with TABOO. Joethedope ( talk) 21:50, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
"Super Smash Bros. Brawl's adventure mode, The Subspace Emissary, also features boss characters. Some of these characters, such as Petey Piranha and Rayquaza, are characters borrowed from other franchises." I don't exactly see what this has to do with tabuu, plus it is intently obvious from the rest of the article. So if the aren't any objectors I'm going to take it out.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Mkracing ( talk • contribs)
User:Stormtracker94 has been slowly removing character information from this article to his newly created page. If he has disscussed this it is not this page or his new page. I currently have redirected it and told him to get a consusus and then continue to create the article.
So now we disscuss this article's right to exist. I personally feel this article does nothing that cannot be done here on this page. I see no reason to remove a large section of this arcle seeing as it is not noteable or good for this article. The new article seems at all not noteable. The news results on "characters" and the phrase "Super smash bros. series" brought 13 results. and most were merely covering Brawl and little mention of the caharacters in the series as a whole, not even mentioning NPCs. In short the new article is not notable and is takes away from this article hurth and does nothing this article can't do.→ 041744 13:32, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't we have a list for Asstist Trophies? BaconBoy914 ( talk) 13:00, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Can we simplify the character table by removing all of the red x's and leaving those boxes blank. It is enough to just have presence of a green check mark and shading be variables. DJ1AM ( talk) 20:05, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
All the other Smash articles are at least GA nom's, and this one looks ready to try for it. Thoughts? Any last minute things to do? Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 21:31, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
When was it nominated, listed, and de-listed? There should be a table on the top. -- haha169 ( talk) 23:33, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
I notice a couple of Japanese romanization errors in this article. Some cases include: glides being spelled improperly, kanji being omitted, and the ー being spelled out as “chōonpu” instead of making a long vowel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by C. Raleigh ( talk • contribs) 04:19, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
I don't know if anyone's picked up on this, but Sheik is playable from the character screen and not just in-battle. All you have to do is point your had on Sheik and (on the GCN controller) press A, and then you can play as Sheik and pick the different colored suits (as well). Also, in order to play as Zero Suit Samus, you hold down the R button (on the GCN controller) when you choose Samus. -- Son ( talk) 14:00, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Why is it linked to Pokémon Trainer#Appearance in other games instead of the main article? -- haha169 ( talk) 23:36, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
In the bosses section there are 6 images, one of crazy & master hand, one of giga bowser, one of tabuu, one of the wire frames, one of a primid, and one of sandbag. I think that it should be cut down to 3, or more spread out, because in that 1 subsection, there are 6, and there are only 10 in the whole article, so it's to crowded. Epass ( talk) 11:04, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
I just removed a portion of the Tabuu paragraph as it focused too much on plot and not Tabuu himself. To flesh out that paragraph, we'll need a physical description and notes on the kinds of attacks/weapons he uses. I'd do it myself, but I have a lot on my plate outside WP. Who's up for this task? Satoryu ( talk) 22:13, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
I'd do it but, my grammer skills still need a bit of improving...Sorry i can't help... SLJCOAAATR 1 ( talk) 23:26, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
He is a humanoid being of pure energy, with a single "eye" lodged in his "chest" where a person's stomach would be located. He appears to conjure several weapons for use in battle, such as a rapier, a large chakram, and his own version of the Dark Cannon. Also, he is able to change his size at will, teleport, and split his body open. His penultimate attack involves adopting his second form and firing off a destructive wave of energy powerful enough to change the denizens of this world into trophy form in a single attack.
Anything else you wanted to know? ;) Oubliette ( talk) 23:47, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
shouldn't we list all of the available stages as well? I don't see how we could have missed that : 76.27.215.219 ( talk) 02:16, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
While I feel the boss descriptions are necessary, some of the other NPCs can be done away with. Sandbag would be the main offender. Satoryu ( talk) 18:25, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
I think Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Charizard should be listed as playable characters, along with Pokemon Trainer. They work exactly like Sheik does. Both can be selected from the start on the chracter select screen, both can be swapped mid-battle, both have their own trophies, and both are listed in the in game credits. The only thing Sheik has that Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Charizard don't is a seperate listing on the Dojo, and I think that's hardly a reason to not list them. Takuthehedgehog ( talk) 18:52, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Unless I'm mistaken, but what happened to "shaded cells denote unlockable characters?" -- haha169 ( talk) 18:44, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Someone put up a too long template in the article, and it is nominated for GA. If anyone reviews the article, it will be quick-failed. Can someone fix the problem with the section? Epass ( talk) 18:59, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
I would generally quick-fail this article, but I know there are plenty of editors working on this article so my concerns may get done if I bring it up:
Message me when you feel you've fulfilled the concerns. -- Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk) 19:52, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
I added some references to point to the respective trophies, but I am not totally sure I cited it the correct way. <3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 14:23, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Now that this article has GA, should we get a peer review to see what needs to be done before FA? Epass ( talk) 19:56, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi guys, should this be mentioned in this article? It was mentioned in an interview between Nintendo Power and Sakurai recently and there's a bit of a debate going on on the melee talkpage about whether its inclusion would benefit the (melee)article. Would appreciate some more opinions on the matter from any editors with a bit more knowledgeable than myself (and not involved in the argument as I seem to be!). Thanks! :) Darrek Attilla ( talk) 13:41, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
After SSBB's FAC is completed, we should nominate it at the FTC. It fits the criteria, and if SSBB succeeds at the FAC, it'll have 50% of their articles featured, much better a percentage than required. - A Link to the Past (talk) 05:00, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
should we mention the bosses in SSBB?. Mysterious Nazo ( talk) 06:16, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
ok. Mysterious Nazo ( talk) 04:23, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Since when was CF in SSB?-- Raiespio ( talk) 22:41, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
I archived this thread because it is practically a train wreck. Continuing on this thread at this point is disruptive. Do not remove the archival. - Jéské ( v^_^v E pluribus unum) 02:27, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, I tried to restore the EL for SmashWiki but someone removed it, telling me to dicuss it in the discussion quite a while ago. Well, I finally got around to it, so I simply want to propose that SmashWiki should be put back in the external links for this thread. I mean, I don't see why it shouldn't be there. Its pretty good compared to other wikis we've been linking before. Most/all of the "speculative nature" of the wiki, which is what I suppose it was previously removed for, is pretty much gone now, and it provides much information about the competitive smash scene, something that Wikipedia and all the sites currently linked in this article lacks almost entirely. So why not put back the SmashWiki link? Tirkaro ( talk) 14:56, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Nintendo has hinted towards a DS Super Smash Bros. Game quite a few times, perhaps we should add a small note somewhere saying, for example "Nintendo has hinted towards Super Smash Bros. DS a few times, though It is not officially announced. FalconPunch2 ( talk) 00:30, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Other articles have had similar small notes saying that the creators have hinted towards a sequel, new season of a show, etc., and it's been okay. So I don't see why this article shouldnt have one. FalconPunch2 ( talk) 20:39, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
I've created a new template to place at the bottom of articles of characters that have been fighters in the Smash Bros. Series. This template only lists fighters that have their own articles -not just sections of articles. But, I'm having a few problems. The major problem is that the color-coding is screwed up, and I can't figure it out. So, if anyone thinks they can tackle this one, the template is Template:Super Smash Bros. Fighters. After its fixed, it can be placed at the bottom of articles, if approved by the community. Rj1020 ( talk) 05:27, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Its been confirmed to be a huge secret at E3 2008!! [ [1]] [ [2]] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.161.5.232 ( talk) 20:53, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Just wait until the conference, then we'll know for sure. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.158.190.249 ( talk) 17:20, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
How can it be justified that the series is met with "mixed, but usually positive" reviews? Apart from that sentence contradicting itself, I'd love to see where this 'mixed' reaction is. Even the evidence of metacritic gives scores of '79' (largely positive) 92 and 95 (universal acclaim). One or two poor reviews doesn't constitute a mixed reaction: an even balance of positive and negative does. Until evidence of such mixed reaction is shown, can this be altered?
I don't know how many people visit this talk page anymore, but I just wanted to inform everyone that Brawl has passed its FAC! The entire series is now at WP:FTC, so if you want to give your support...(or oppose)...-- haha169 ( talk) 16:28, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Forgive me if the issue's been adressed already but didn't Nintendo conduct a poll after the release of SSB and Melee to see which characters players would most like to see included in the next installment? I'm pretty sure this was mentioned in at least one issue of Nintendo Power and I actually thought that I had seen the information included in the Melee article but I checked and its not there. Is my memory failing me, or did it used to be in the article but has since been removed?
S. Luke 10:19, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
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In the footnotes of the character list, it says Zero Suit Samus "can be formed during battle when Samus' armor is destroyed, either manually or through her Final Smash.", but I'm pretty sure you can't remove her armour manually. And if she can, I would love to know how.
The game pages seem to be under the 'Category:3D fighting games'. It seems to me this is incorrect as the player does not control the character through 3D space, despite being a three dimensional figure.→ 041744 21:00, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
since mewtwo has a page it should link to his page not the list of pokemon 76.212.13.236 ( talk) 09:43, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
It should be mentioned that some trophies in Melee and Brawl contain some major errors.
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PJ Pete, December 31, 2008 20:45
I notice this article hasn't gone for FA status yet, maybe it should. I think it's up there and would pass. The Windler talk 10:02, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
I see it appropriate to give each game different descriptions. The gameplay itself is mostly common in the basic idea, but in each series it is extremely different in many aspects. For example, Melee at higher level play is extremely tech-skill based and is much more fast paced, SSB has a large focus on combo-ing and has very high hitstun, and Brawl is based upon mindgames, aerial fighting, and you get the point. SSBPlayah ( talk) 02:14, 22 January 2009 (UTC)SSBPlayah
A few editors have been working on the fighting game article. Although it is not meant to be an exhaustive compilation of every fighting game, let alone every variation on a fighting game, we'd appreciate some comments at talk:fighting game to tell us if there are any huge errors or omissions. Randomran ( talk) 20:01, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
I think the best way to differentiate between this series and a conventional fighting game might be this: Smash Bros is a combination of a platformer and a fighting game. Makes sense if you think about it, and it's particularly prominent on the more ambitious stages. I mean, you don't even die by running out of health, you die by falling into the bottomless pit. Perhaps a slightly more eloquent version of this idea might be worth including under the gameplay section, as I find this is the best way to explain the kind of experience you get from the game. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.255.195.165 ( talk) 02:45, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
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Master Hand is playable in Super Smash Bros. Melee. I think this should be noted.
Evidence: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/episode-3-pop-fiction/701341 80.101.25.118 ( talk) 13:46, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
I just noticed that the reference numbers get off after the list of characters within the article. For example, the reference for Master Hand is shown as being number 18 within the article, but clicking on it takes you to the 15th reference at the bottom of the page. I don't believe it is coincidence that the list of characters uses 3 reference tags which are displayed immediately below the list, and the reference numbers starting immediately after it get off by 3 places.
While this is likely a glitch in the wiki software and there may not be anything that can be done here to fix it, I thought I'd mention it in case someone knows a way to address it. STLocutus ( talk) 18:10, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
I have reverted a few recent edits as all of the Japanese sources I could find have the word fully written out as "Brothers", rather than using "Bros."
Prime Blue ( talk) 21:33, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
The Master Hand is a playable character in Super Smash Bros. Melee due to a glitch. shouldn't he then be considered a playable character?
proof of the glitch: you have to have a controllers in slots 1 and 3. you first pick a character with P1, then put the cursor of P1 on "back". Then you put P3's cursor to name change (without picking a character). Then you push A with both controllers at nearly the same time (press A with P1 a millisecond before P3). Pick a stage, and now P3 is the Master Hand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.4.87.14 ( talk) 02:42, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
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If you counted how many fighters in Melee, you will probably say that there's only 25 fighters in this game or 26 if Sheik is considered a fully playable character. Number of fighters in Brawl is only 36, even though Sheik was counted in Melee? Rukario-sama ( talk) 19:50, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
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Archived just now. Smashbrosboy (talk) 03:37, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Is the Brawl FAQ going to be deleted tomorrow, or will it stay until a week after, because of all the questions people will be asking after they buy the game? Epass ( talk) 12:46, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
It should be archived. We may need to use it as a model if we plan on creating another FAQ for a future Smash game, or we could help the European Wikipedias out. -- haha169 ( talk) 23:11, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
I believe that the Dojo article should be brought to the deletion review - it's especially notable, and if I recall correctly, Sakurai stated that it received, on average, more than one million hits per day, and more than five million per week. - A Link to the Past (talk) 17:04, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
The list of characters lists "Wolf" from Star Fox and "Toon Link" from Zelda for Brawl. I have seen nothing on the Dojo to that effect. Is it vandalism perhaps? Anyone know the source? -Lagren 198.53.190.240 ( talk) 20:43, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, sorry. Didn't mean to sound so blunt in my earlier posting... I have a copy of it myself. -Lagren 198.53.190.240 ( talk) 08:36, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
It being out in America, it is obvious what the characters names are and cannot be disputed. -- DavidD4scnrt ( talk) 01:02, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
What I was trying to hint to A Link to the Past in my last revert of his edit was that discussion for what he was trying to do really needed to be brought here first, as it's something going against previous consensus decided on for this page. Therefore... let the discussion begin. Should the fact that the only American Mother game had a name change in its release affect what we have listed as Ness and Lucas' series of source? Arrowned ( talk) 12:59, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
You're wrong, there aren't two games in the series called EarthBound because you said it yourself, it was cancelled. They didn't start using Mother in the U.S. until Smash Bros, such as on Lucas' stage. Just like how Square changed Aeris name back to Aerith during the first Kingdom Hearts, this proves that if they were planning on remaking them, they'd go under their original titles. Plus, the series article is called "Mother (series)", not "EarthBound (series)", though the latter is redirected to it. -- Ryu-chan ( Talk | Contributions) 18:45, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
You say Brawl calls the series Earthbound, but I believe there was a trophy calling it the "Mother series". It calls it Earthbound too, though. So going by Brawl (unless I'm totally off on that, but I don't believe I am), Mother and Earthbound are equally viable.
Second, Earthbound Zero really doesn't count for the official series name being Earthbound. It's nothing more than a fan name. The official English name of the first game is Mother and the official English name of the third game is Mother 3. And it can't just be said that "the games are Japan-only so they just use the Japanese names" because some of the Japan-only FE games got new English names too (from some of the stickers).
And if it counts for anything, there were discussions about this both on the Mother series page and earlier on this very page (it's now archived, though). Both groups agreed on calling it Mother. I would say that the series should be labeled as Mother/Earthbound, or maybe Earthbound/Mother. But just saying Earthbound doesn't seem correct (and you'd object to just calling it Mother).
And Earthbound 64 is only proof that Nintendo was using it as the series name, but that doesn't necessarily hold now. Sir Ilpalazzo ( talk) 21:02, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
what you said was a good point. why don't we put "EarthBound (Mother)". because, as stated before, that's what Brawl uses. Ryu-chan
Might be worth a trivial mention somewhere that the word 'Super' was affixed to a lot of titles for the SNES (remember, it stands for SUPER Nintendo Entertainment System). The odd thing is that the Smash Brothers series is the sole continuer of this tradition... what's even weirder is that it started on the N64, not the SNES, so there's no reason for the 'Super' to be there! JaffaCakeLover ( talk) 11:13, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
Under Tabuu it says he controls both Master Hand and Crazy Hand, yet I'm fairly sure Crazy Hand never showed up in the Subspace Emissary. Can anyone offer an explanation for this? 76.230.233.120 ( talk) 20:27, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
A response of more than one word would be appreciated. 76.230.233.120 ( talk) 02:23, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Ummm, I'm pretty sure it's not considered speculation? I mean if Master Hand is being controlled, what's to say Crazy Hand isint? Onepiece226 ( talk) 18:07, 15 March 2008 (UTC)Onepiece226
It's not stated clearly in the game so I think it's speculation. FightingStreet ( talk) 21:43, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Tabuu is kinda wierd. It rhymes with TABOO. Joethedope ( talk) 21:50, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
"Super Smash Bros. Brawl's adventure mode, The Subspace Emissary, also features boss characters. Some of these characters, such as Petey Piranha and Rayquaza, are characters borrowed from other franchises." I don't exactly see what this has to do with tabuu, plus it is intently obvious from the rest of the article. So if the aren't any objectors I'm going to take it out.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Mkracing ( talk • contribs)
User:Stormtracker94 has been slowly removing character information from this article to his newly created page. If he has disscussed this it is not this page or his new page. I currently have redirected it and told him to get a consusus and then continue to create the article.
So now we disscuss this article's right to exist. I personally feel this article does nothing that cannot be done here on this page. I see no reason to remove a large section of this arcle seeing as it is not noteable or good for this article. The new article seems at all not noteable. The news results on "characters" and the phrase "Super smash bros. series" brought 13 results. and most were merely covering Brawl and little mention of the caharacters in the series as a whole, not even mentioning NPCs. In short the new article is not notable and is takes away from this article hurth and does nothing this article can't do.→ 041744 13:32, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't we have a list for Asstist Trophies? BaconBoy914 ( talk) 13:00, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Can we simplify the character table by removing all of the red x's and leaving those boxes blank. It is enough to just have presence of a green check mark and shading be variables. DJ1AM ( talk) 20:05, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
All the other Smash articles are at least GA nom's, and this one looks ready to try for it. Thoughts? Any last minute things to do? Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 21:31, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
When was it nominated, listed, and de-listed? There should be a table on the top. -- haha169 ( talk) 23:33, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
I notice a couple of Japanese romanization errors in this article. Some cases include: glides being spelled improperly, kanji being omitted, and the ー being spelled out as “chōonpu” instead of making a long vowel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by C. Raleigh ( talk • contribs) 04:19, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
I don't know if anyone's picked up on this, but Sheik is playable from the character screen and not just in-battle. All you have to do is point your had on Sheik and (on the GCN controller) press A, and then you can play as Sheik and pick the different colored suits (as well). Also, in order to play as Zero Suit Samus, you hold down the R button (on the GCN controller) when you choose Samus. -- Son ( talk) 14:00, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Why is it linked to Pokémon Trainer#Appearance in other games instead of the main article? -- haha169 ( talk) 23:36, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
In the bosses section there are 6 images, one of crazy & master hand, one of giga bowser, one of tabuu, one of the wire frames, one of a primid, and one of sandbag. I think that it should be cut down to 3, or more spread out, because in that 1 subsection, there are 6, and there are only 10 in the whole article, so it's to crowded. Epass ( talk) 11:04, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
I just removed a portion of the Tabuu paragraph as it focused too much on plot and not Tabuu himself. To flesh out that paragraph, we'll need a physical description and notes on the kinds of attacks/weapons he uses. I'd do it myself, but I have a lot on my plate outside WP. Who's up for this task? Satoryu ( talk) 22:13, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
I'd do it but, my grammer skills still need a bit of improving...Sorry i can't help... SLJCOAAATR 1 ( talk) 23:26, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
He is a humanoid being of pure energy, with a single "eye" lodged in his "chest" where a person's stomach would be located. He appears to conjure several weapons for use in battle, such as a rapier, a large chakram, and his own version of the Dark Cannon. Also, he is able to change his size at will, teleport, and split his body open. His penultimate attack involves adopting his second form and firing off a destructive wave of energy powerful enough to change the denizens of this world into trophy form in a single attack.
Anything else you wanted to know? ;) Oubliette ( talk) 23:47, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
shouldn't we list all of the available stages as well? I don't see how we could have missed that : 76.27.215.219 ( talk) 02:16, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
While I feel the boss descriptions are necessary, some of the other NPCs can be done away with. Sandbag would be the main offender. Satoryu ( talk) 18:25, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
I think Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Charizard should be listed as playable characters, along with Pokemon Trainer. They work exactly like Sheik does. Both can be selected from the start on the chracter select screen, both can be swapped mid-battle, both have their own trophies, and both are listed in the in game credits. The only thing Sheik has that Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Charizard don't is a seperate listing on the Dojo, and I think that's hardly a reason to not list them. Takuthehedgehog ( talk) 18:52, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Unless I'm mistaken, but what happened to "shaded cells denote unlockable characters?" -- haha169 ( talk) 18:44, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Someone put up a too long template in the article, and it is nominated for GA. If anyone reviews the article, it will be quick-failed. Can someone fix the problem with the section? Epass ( talk) 18:59, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
I would generally quick-fail this article, but I know there are plenty of editors working on this article so my concerns may get done if I bring it up:
Message me when you feel you've fulfilled the concerns. -- Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk) 19:52, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
I added some references to point to the respective trophies, but I am not totally sure I cited it the correct way. <3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 14:23, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Now that this article has GA, should we get a peer review to see what needs to be done before FA? Epass ( talk) 19:56, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi guys, should this be mentioned in this article? It was mentioned in an interview between Nintendo Power and Sakurai recently and there's a bit of a debate going on on the melee talkpage about whether its inclusion would benefit the (melee)article. Would appreciate some more opinions on the matter from any editors with a bit more knowledgeable than myself (and not involved in the argument as I seem to be!). Thanks! :) Darrek Attilla ( talk) 13:41, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
After SSBB's FAC is completed, we should nominate it at the FTC. It fits the criteria, and if SSBB succeeds at the FAC, it'll have 50% of their articles featured, much better a percentage than required. - A Link to the Past (talk) 05:00, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
should we mention the bosses in SSBB?. Mysterious Nazo ( talk) 06:16, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
ok. Mysterious Nazo ( talk) 04:23, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Since when was CF in SSB?-- Raiespio ( talk) 22:41, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
I archived this thread because it is practically a train wreck. Continuing on this thread at this point is disruptive. Do not remove the archival. - Jéské ( v^_^v E pluribus unum) 02:27, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, I tried to restore the EL for SmashWiki but someone removed it, telling me to dicuss it in the discussion quite a while ago. Well, I finally got around to it, so I simply want to propose that SmashWiki should be put back in the external links for this thread. I mean, I don't see why it shouldn't be there. Its pretty good compared to other wikis we've been linking before. Most/all of the "speculative nature" of the wiki, which is what I suppose it was previously removed for, is pretty much gone now, and it provides much information about the competitive smash scene, something that Wikipedia and all the sites currently linked in this article lacks almost entirely. So why not put back the SmashWiki link? Tirkaro ( talk) 14:56, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Nintendo has hinted towards a DS Super Smash Bros. Game quite a few times, perhaps we should add a small note somewhere saying, for example "Nintendo has hinted towards Super Smash Bros. DS a few times, though It is not officially announced. FalconPunch2 ( talk) 00:30, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Other articles have had similar small notes saying that the creators have hinted towards a sequel, new season of a show, etc., and it's been okay. So I don't see why this article shouldnt have one. FalconPunch2 ( talk) 20:39, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
I've created a new template to place at the bottom of articles of characters that have been fighters in the Smash Bros. Series. This template only lists fighters that have their own articles -not just sections of articles. But, I'm having a few problems. The major problem is that the color-coding is screwed up, and I can't figure it out. So, if anyone thinks they can tackle this one, the template is Template:Super Smash Bros. Fighters. After its fixed, it can be placed at the bottom of articles, if approved by the community. Rj1020 ( talk) 05:27, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Its been confirmed to be a huge secret at E3 2008!! [ [1]] [ [2]] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.161.5.232 ( talk) 20:53, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Just wait until the conference, then we'll know for sure. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.158.190.249 ( talk) 17:20, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
How can it be justified that the series is met with "mixed, but usually positive" reviews? Apart from that sentence contradicting itself, I'd love to see where this 'mixed' reaction is. Even the evidence of metacritic gives scores of '79' (largely positive) 92 and 95 (universal acclaim). One or two poor reviews doesn't constitute a mixed reaction: an even balance of positive and negative does. Until evidence of such mixed reaction is shown, can this be altered?
I don't know how many people visit this talk page anymore, but I just wanted to inform everyone that Brawl has passed its FAC! The entire series is now at WP:FTC, so if you want to give your support...(or oppose)...-- haha169 ( talk) 16:28, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Forgive me if the issue's been adressed already but didn't Nintendo conduct a poll after the release of SSB and Melee to see which characters players would most like to see included in the next installment? I'm pretty sure this was mentioned in at least one issue of Nintendo Power and I actually thought that I had seen the information included in the Melee article but I checked and its not there. Is my memory failing me, or did it used to be in the article but has since been removed?
S. Luke 10:19, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
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In the footnotes of the character list, it says Zero Suit Samus "can be formed during battle when Samus' armor is destroyed, either manually or through her Final Smash.", but I'm pretty sure you can't remove her armour manually. And if she can, I would love to know how.
The game pages seem to be under the 'Category:3D fighting games'. It seems to me this is incorrect as the player does not control the character through 3D space, despite being a three dimensional figure.→ 041744 21:00, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
since mewtwo has a page it should link to his page not the list of pokemon 76.212.13.236 ( talk) 09:43, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
It should be mentioned that some trophies in Melee and Brawl contain some major errors.
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PJ Pete, December 31, 2008 20:45
I notice this article hasn't gone for FA status yet, maybe it should. I think it's up there and would pass. The Windler talk 10:02, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
I see it appropriate to give each game different descriptions. The gameplay itself is mostly common in the basic idea, but in each series it is extremely different in many aspects. For example, Melee at higher level play is extremely tech-skill based and is much more fast paced, SSB has a large focus on combo-ing and has very high hitstun, and Brawl is based upon mindgames, aerial fighting, and you get the point. SSBPlayah ( talk) 02:14, 22 January 2009 (UTC)SSBPlayah
A few editors have been working on the fighting game article. Although it is not meant to be an exhaustive compilation of every fighting game, let alone every variation on a fighting game, we'd appreciate some comments at talk:fighting game to tell us if there are any huge errors or omissions. Randomran ( talk) 20:01, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
I think the best way to differentiate between this series and a conventional fighting game might be this: Smash Bros is a combination of a platformer and a fighting game. Makes sense if you think about it, and it's particularly prominent on the more ambitious stages. I mean, you don't even die by running out of health, you die by falling into the bottomless pit. Perhaps a slightly more eloquent version of this idea might be worth including under the gameplay section, as I find this is the best way to explain the kind of experience you get from the game. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.255.195.165 ( talk) 02:45, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
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Master Hand is playable in Super Smash Bros. Melee. I think this should be noted.
Evidence: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/episode-3-pop-fiction/701341 80.101.25.118 ( talk) 13:46, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
I just noticed that the reference numbers get off after the list of characters within the article. For example, the reference for Master Hand is shown as being number 18 within the article, but clicking on it takes you to the 15th reference at the bottom of the page. I don't believe it is coincidence that the list of characters uses 3 reference tags which are displayed immediately below the list, and the reference numbers starting immediately after it get off by 3 places.
While this is likely a glitch in the wiki software and there may not be anything that can be done here to fix it, I thought I'd mention it in case someone knows a way to address it. STLocutus ( talk) 18:10, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
I have reverted a few recent edits as all of the Japanese sources I could find have the word fully written out as "Brothers", rather than using "Bros."
Prime Blue ( talk) 21:33, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
The Master Hand is a playable character in Super Smash Bros. Melee due to a glitch. shouldn't he then be considered a playable character?
proof of the glitch: you have to have a controllers in slots 1 and 3. you first pick a character with P1, then put the cursor of P1 on "back". Then you put P3's cursor to name change (without picking a character). Then you push A with both controllers at nearly the same time (press A with P1 a millisecond before P3). Pick a stage, and now P3 is the Master Hand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.4.87.14 ( talk) 02:42, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
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If you counted how many fighters in Melee, you will probably say that there's only 25 fighters in this game or 26 if Sheik is considered a fully playable character. Number of fighters in Brawl is only 36, even though Sheik was counted in Melee? Rukario-sama ( talk) 19:50, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
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