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The new article about the new Greek Championship.A new era begins.-- Michael 11:00, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Hey guys,please in the Greek football box change the name of the league into Super League Greece and try to find the Super league Logo to add it both to the article and to the box.Last but not least,wherever you find the name Alpha Ethniki or Greek National Divison change it into Super League Greece.Thank you.-- Michael 10:59, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
who can i change the box about greek football??
?? Reaper7 02:18, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
According to this (official) link [1], between 1941 and 1945 no championships were held. How on earth can we stop this vandal from adding fake titles?-- KaragouniS 14:34, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
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its official from 1905 . Segas ofcourse is official. Are you crazy??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.72.179.55 ( talk) 13:08, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
dear IP user, next time you'll revert edits, you'll be banned from Wikipedia for breaking the Three Revert Rule. Plus the edits you made are not correct, as EPO officialy recognizes only the championships after 1927. -- KaragouniS : Chat 16:14, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Apollon Athens has 37 seasons in super league 85.74.173.200 ( talk) 21:38, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
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Kala p dn xereis ellinika n s vrizw oso thelw #baby#xe xe —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.161.194.33 ( talk) 22:44, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
I found the articles [Pan-hellenic Championship 1940-41], [Pan-hellenic Championship 1942-43]. What must we do about them? Sportin ( talk) 12:24, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
Finally, which one is considered the final position of the teams, that of the regular season or after play offs? We cannot say all the time that a team finished 2nd in the regular season and 4th in the play offs. One position is supposed to be the final one. Which one? The play offs determine the final place in the league or just the qualification to the European Cups? - Sthenel ( talk) 22:37, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
The final position is the one after the play-offs (no doubt). That's why the play-offs exist. Psyrras Panagiotis 10:34, 9 February 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sinis smooth ( talk • contribs)
The logo and official website have it as one word.-- Jeff79 ( talk) 16:41, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Thermaikos Thessaloniki is not the same with Thermaikos Thermi. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.176.124.221 ( talk) 15:12, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Panargiakos have not played in the top league since the national league was created in 1959. Please delete all references to them in this article. Irlandos ( talk) 09:12, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
Aek Athens is a team based in ...Athens(i thought this was self explained). Nea Filadelfia is just one of the many municipalities of greater City of Athens — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.87.156.164 ( talk) 04:42, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
I will change it, are you from Greece ?-- Alexiulian25 ( talk) 17:50, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
Someone who knows Greek language to update / create the old seasons! Thanks!-- Alexiulian25 ( talk) 17:50, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
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Here www.greeksporhistory.blogspot.gr/2009/01/1894-1896.html .-- 77.49.32.79 ( talk) 18:48, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
Why is Aris not included in the Performance by Club and Performance by City? 83.80.18.68 ( talk) 14:38, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
There is a persistent removal of content by new user Montigliani, who first used the following description to justify his action: "Removal of vandalism. These additions are based on unreliable fan forums and no relationship with the Greek Championship over time." It goes without saying that the content is cited by high end sources, including the BBC, Guardian and many other reliable media. Montigliani doubled down this morning, this time with no reason. Dynasty Power ( talk) 13:35, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
Βρισκόμαστε στις αρχές Αυγούστου 1923. Η ομάδα του Πειραϊκού Συνδέσμου, η οποία πριν από μερικές εβδομάδες είχε κατακτήσει τους τελικούς Αθηνά, Πειραιά και Σμύρνης επικρατώντας και στα τέσσερα παιχνίδια κόντρα σε Παναθηναϊκό, Πανιώνιο, Απόλλωνα και Πειραϊκή Ένωση, επιβιβάζεται στο ατμόπλοιο «Χίος» με προορισμό τη Θεσσαλονίκη. Εκεί πρόκειται να αντιμετωπίσει τον Άρη για τον τελικό του πρώτου επίσημου πρωταθλήματος Ελλάδος. Ο αγώνας είναι προγραμματισμένος για τις 12 Αυγούστου, ενώ για έδρα ορίζεται στο γήπεδο του Ηρακλή στις Σκαμνιές. Ο τύπος της εποχής ασχολείται εκτενώς με το παιχνίδι. «Ο αγών ούτος, ο πρώτος δια το νεοσυσταθέν Πανελλήνιον πρωτάθλημα προμηνύεται πεισματοδέστατος. Εις τους συμπολίτας μας δίδεται η ευκαιρία να συγκρίνουν την πρόοδον του Ποδοσφαίρου εν Παλαιά Ελλάδι και εν Μακεδονία. Ο αγών ούτος θέλει επιρεάσει σοβαρώς την εκλογήν της Ελληνικής Εθνικής Ομάδος διά τους Ολυμπιακους Αγώνας των Παρισίων» σημειώνεται σε άρθρο της εφημερίδας Μακεδονία. 2A02:586:813D:2A2F:7DD0:9BC8:776:F439 ( talk) 08:09, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
Hi, everyone. The two sections within the body of the article delve into a highly pertinent and widely acknowledged aspect of Greek football, extensively documented by various sources over the past decade. Initially introduced by a user previously banned for misconduct, this substantial section was later inexplicably removed. The questionable and continuous removal was attributed to the user's ban status, which is a rather arbitrary reason considering the wealth of credible citations supporting the content. Such actions raise questions about the understanding of Wikipedia's guidelines, veering into the territory of vandalism. It's imperative to note that the section in question addresses a longstanding and extensively reported issue within Greek football, making its removal without substantial consensus both puzzling and unjustified. While consensus-driven edits are encouraged, the current state of affairs underscores the importance of preserving well-researched and widely recognized content, despite its origins. EverLove124 ( talk) 09:50, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
@ Montigliani: The Greek championship is divided into three sections, which are also listed in the article:
A further subdivision of the Professional League from 2005 or 2019 is unnecessary, as these only include changes to the league name and have not changed the format of the league. I would agree with @ Abudabanashere, with whom you are in an edit war on this topic. Miria~01 ( talk) 13:38, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
I find that totally wrong. A top division was established in Greece in 1959. The final stage playoffs between the winners/top ranked teams of the Regional Leagues should not be named top division participations. There was no top division and no team was relegated to a 2nd division. There were regional leagues and final stage playoffs. To back up my point of view I will present the following: i) In the List of unrelegated association football clubs article, the historical considerations section explains in detail the differences in many countries between older league formats with regional leagues - final stage playoffs and the present ones which are national round-robin tournaments. ii) Watching a Greek derby on TV during the last 30-40 years, all broadcasting channels (NOVAsports/Cosmote or SKAI/MEGA in the past) when they show tables of the results history between 2 teams, they never include matches before 1959 in the statistics. Even if it is AEK-Panathinaikos or Aris-PAOK for example. They met in the past multiple times in their Regional Leagues and also in the Final Stage playoffs of the Panhellenic Championship (1927-59). The same goes for the official Super League website, bookmakers, betting info websites or sports websites. All of them do not include the results before 1959 and do not consider them as division matches because there is a huge difference. The format was different. We have a National League, a Top Division since 1959. Before 1959, there was a championship tournament containing two stages. The Regional Leagues which were simiral to present qualifying rounds and the final stage playoffs who determined the champion. iii) I will give an example on why a table presenting a first season appearance in Panhellenic Championship final stage as a first season in top division is false in my opinion. The season of the inaugural Greek Championship 1927-28. Aris faced PAOK in the Thessaloniki Regional League. Aris finished 1st and PAOK 2nd. Aris qualified for the final stage playoffs of the Championship. The previous table which I altered showed: Seasons in top division, Aris 1 / PAOK 0. How is that possible when they faced each other that season? If I am a foreigner with little knowledge in Greek football history who reads this table, I will falsely presume that there was a top division where Aris was playing and PAOK was playing in a lower one. I simply corrected that and wrote the table like this. Seasons in Panhellenic Championship Final Stage, Aris 1 / PAOK 0. I find that accurate. And the same goes for all seasons where Panathinaikos qualified from the Athens Regional League and AEK did not or the opposite. I did not delete the total appearances in the final stage of the Panhellenic Championship of each team. I changed the table where it is characterised as top division appearance in order that it is presented more properly and in a more accurate way. Anyone who disagrees can write down his opinion on the matter. Thank you Abudabanas ( talk) 10:22, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
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The new article about the new Greek Championship.A new era begins.-- Michael 11:00, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Hey guys,please in the Greek football box change the name of the league into Super League Greece and try to find the Super league Logo to add it both to the article and to the box.Last but not least,wherever you find the name Alpha Ethniki or Greek National Divison change it into Super League Greece.Thank you.-- Michael 10:59, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
who can i change the box about greek football??
?? Reaper7 02:18, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
According to this (official) link [1], between 1941 and 1945 no championships were held. How on earth can we stop this vandal from adding fake titles?-- KaragouniS 14:34, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
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its official from 1905 . Segas ofcourse is official. Are you crazy??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.72.179.55 ( talk) 13:08, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
dear IP user, next time you'll revert edits, you'll be banned from Wikipedia for breaking the Three Revert Rule. Plus the edits you made are not correct, as EPO officialy recognizes only the championships after 1927. -- KaragouniS : Chat 16:14, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Apollon Athens has 37 seasons in super league 85.74.173.200 ( talk) 21:38, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
The image Image:ERGOTELIS LOGO.jpg is used in this article under a claim of fair use, but it does not have an adequate explanation for why it meets the requirements for such images when used here. In particular, for each page the image is used on, it must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Please check
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Kala p dn xereis ellinika n s vrizw oso thelw #baby#xe xe —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.161.194.33 ( talk) 22:44, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
I found the articles [Pan-hellenic Championship 1940-41], [Pan-hellenic Championship 1942-43]. What must we do about them? Sportin ( talk) 12:24, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
Finally, which one is considered the final position of the teams, that of the regular season or after play offs? We cannot say all the time that a team finished 2nd in the regular season and 4th in the play offs. One position is supposed to be the final one. Which one? The play offs determine the final place in the league or just the qualification to the European Cups? - Sthenel ( talk) 22:37, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
The final position is the one after the play-offs (no doubt). That's why the play-offs exist. Psyrras Panagiotis 10:34, 9 February 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sinis smooth ( talk • contribs)
The logo and official website have it as one word.-- Jeff79 ( talk) 16:41, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Thermaikos Thessaloniki is not the same with Thermaikos Thermi. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.176.124.221 ( talk) 15:12, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Panargiakos have not played in the top league since the national league was created in 1959. Please delete all references to them in this article. Irlandos ( talk) 09:12, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
Aek Athens is a team based in ...Athens(i thought this was self explained). Nea Filadelfia is just one of the many municipalities of greater City of Athens — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.87.156.164 ( talk) 04:42, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
I will change it, are you from Greece ?-- Alexiulian25 ( talk) 17:50, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
Someone who knows Greek language to update / create the old seasons! Thanks!-- Alexiulian25 ( talk) 17:50, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
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Here www.greeksporhistory.blogspot.gr/2009/01/1894-1896.html .-- 77.49.32.79 ( talk) 18:48, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
Why is Aris not included in the Performance by Club and Performance by City? 83.80.18.68 ( talk) 14:38, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
There is a persistent removal of content by new user Montigliani, who first used the following description to justify his action: "Removal of vandalism. These additions are based on unreliable fan forums and no relationship with the Greek Championship over time." It goes without saying that the content is cited by high end sources, including the BBC, Guardian and many other reliable media. Montigliani doubled down this morning, this time with no reason. Dynasty Power ( talk) 13:35, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
Βρισκόμαστε στις αρχές Αυγούστου 1923. Η ομάδα του Πειραϊκού Συνδέσμου, η οποία πριν από μερικές εβδομάδες είχε κατακτήσει τους τελικούς Αθηνά, Πειραιά και Σμύρνης επικρατώντας και στα τέσσερα παιχνίδια κόντρα σε Παναθηναϊκό, Πανιώνιο, Απόλλωνα και Πειραϊκή Ένωση, επιβιβάζεται στο ατμόπλοιο «Χίος» με προορισμό τη Θεσσαλονίκη. Εκεί πρόκειται να αντιμετωπίσει τον Άρη για τον τελικό του πρώτου επίσημου πρωταθλήματος Ελλάδος. Ο αγώνας είναι προγραμματισμένος για τις 12 Αυγούστου, ενώ για έδρα ορίζεται στο γήπεδο του Ηρακλή στις Σκαμνιές. Ο τύπος της εποχής ασχολείται εκτενώς με το παιχνίδι. «Ο αγών ούτος, ο πρώτος δια το νεοσυσταθέν Πανελλήνιον πρωτάθλημα προμηνύεται πεισματοδέστατος. Εις τους συμπολίτας μας δίδεται η ευκαιρία να συγκρίνουν την πρόοδον του Ποδοσφαίρου εν Παλαιά Ελλάδι και εν Μακεδονία. Ο αγών ούτος θέλει επιρεάσει σοβαρώς την εκλογήν της Ελληνικής Εθνικής Ομάδος διά τους Ολυμπιακους Αγώνας των Παρισίων» σημειώνεται σε άρθρο της εφημερίδας Μακεδονία. 2A02:586:813D:2A2F:7DD0:9BC8:776:F439 ( talk) 08:09, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
Hi, everyone. The two sections within the body of the article delve into a highly pertinent and widely acknowledged aspect of Greek football, extensively documented by various sources over the past decade. Initially introduced by a user previously banned for misconduct, this substantial section was later inexplicably removed. The questionable and continuous removal was attributed to the user's ban status, which is a rather arbitrary reason considering the wealth of credible citations supporting the content. Such actions raise questions about the understanding of Wikipedia's guidelines, veering into the territory of vandalism. It's imperative to note that the section in question addresses a longstanding and extensively reported issue within Greek football, making its removal without substantial consensus both puzzling and unjustified. While consensus-driven edits are encouraged, the current state of affairs underscores the importance of preserving well-researched and widely recognized content, despite its origins. EverLove124 ( talk) 09:50, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
@ Montigliani: The Greek championship is divided into three sections, which are also listed in the article:
A further subdivision of the Professional League from 2005 or 2019 is unnecessary, as these only include changes to the league name and have not changed the format of the league. I would agree with @ Abudabanashere, with whom you are in an edit war on this topic. Miria~01 ( talk) 13:38, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
I find that totally wrong. A top division was established in Greece in 1959. The final stage playoffs between the winners/top ranked teams of the Regional Leagues should not be named top division participations. There was no top division and no team was relegated to a 2nd division. There were regional leagues and final stage playoffs. To back up my point of view I will present the following: i) In the List of unrelegated association football clubs article, the historical considerations section explains in detail the differences in many countries between older league formats with regional leagues - final stage playoffs and the present ones which are national round-robin tournaments. ii) Watching a Greek derby on TV during the last 30-40 years, all broadcasting channels (NOVAsports/Cosmote or SKAI/MEGA in the past) when they show tables of the results history between 2 teams, they never include matches before 1959 in the statistics. Even if it is AEK-Panathinaikos or Aris-PAOK for example. They met in the past multiple times in their Regional Leagues and also in the Final Stage playoffs of the Panhellenic Championship (1927-59). The same goes for the official Super League website, bookmakers, betting info websites or sports websites. All of them do not include the results before 1959 and do not consider them as division matches because there is a huge difference. The format was different. We have a National League, a Top Division since 1959. Before 1959, there was a championship tournament containing two stages. The Regional Leagues which were simiral to present qualifying rounds and the final stage playoffs who determined the champion. iii) I will give an example on why a table presenting a first season appearance in Panhellenic Championship final stage as a first season in top division is false in my opinion. The season of the inaugural Greek Championship 1927-28. Aris faced PAOK in the Thessaloniki Regional League. Aris finished 1st and PAOK 2nd. Aris qualified for the final stage playoffs of the Championship. The previous table which I altered showed: Seasons in top division, Aris 1 / PAOK 0. How is that possible when they faced each other that season? If I am a foreigner with little knowledge in Greek football history who reads this table, I will falsely presume that there was a top division where Aris was playing and PAOK was playing in a lower one. I simply corrected that and wrote the table like this. Seasons in Panhellenic Championship Final Stage, Aris 1 / PAOK 0. I find that accurate. And the same goes for all seasons where Panathinaikos qualified from the Athens Regional League and AEK did not or the opposite. I did not delete the total appearances in the final stage of the Panhellenic Championship of each team. I changed the table where it is characterised as top division appearance in order that it is presented more properly and in a more accurate way. Anyone who disagrees can write down his opinion on the matter. Thank you Abudabanas ( talk) 10:22, 2 July 2024 (UTC)