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"And the patents were copied, not just "because I think it is a look-a-like" Pudeo
"There are some similarities between the KP/-31 and PPSh -41 such as magazine capacity, cyclic rate of fire and the wooden buttstock. The Finnish gun is, however, a first generation submachine gun while the PPSh is a typical second generation submachine gun: Mass-produced for a massive army, and thus possessing neither quickly detachable barrel nor some other luxuries such as versatility with very slight - if any - alteration of the receiver mechanism." [1]
PPSh-41 is not copy of Suomi, which is easy to notice with little researche.
PPD 34 [2] is probably the gun which you are thinking.
And why did you revert also all the typos...? Please correct those. -- 81.197.218.62 18:16, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
Nevermind, I reverted.-- 81.197.218.62 19:02, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
Where does the name "M-31" for this article come from? In the article, the gun is consistently called "KP/-31". Which is correct? Redxiv 02:54, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
i think that m/31 means malli/31, in english it means model/31. suomi M/31 KP/-31 are official "names" for Suomi KP M/31 -- 193.229.159.15 20:47, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
In 1932 or 1933 a certain Finnish spy working for the Soviets managed to steal blueprints for the Suomi M/31 and take them to the USSR. Yes, the PPSh-41 is indeed largely a poor copy of the Suomi M/31. Its earlier versions were also copies of the Suomi M/31, based on the blueprints that the USSR received from her Finnish spy. 84.248.10.87 ( talk) 20:16, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
There actually was a Russian copy, the KF-42 SMG (Karelo-Finski 1942). It was chambered for 7.62x25 TT rounds and was made in very small numbers in Leningrad during the siege. This actually reinforces the spy theory in which the Finnish plans were delivered to the Soviets. The Soviets probably found the "Suomi" unsuitable for mass production and the plans were stored in Leningrad. During the siege they were probably dug out and few guns built. My theory.
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While the source linked in the article claims a Slovakian soldier holds this submachine gun I think it looks more like a PPD-40 since he holds on to a wooden handguard in front of the magazine which is something the PPD-40 has but the Suomi does not. It is likely a PPD-40 was captured from the Soviets. This source doesn't mention any Soumi KP-31 sold to Slovakia either. [3] https://jaegerplatoon.net/MACHINEPISTOLS1.htm 31.208.184.195 ( talk) 14:36, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
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"And the patents were copied, not just "because I think it is a look-a-like" Pudeo
"There are some similarities between the KP/-31 and PPSh -41 such as magazine capacity, cyclic rate of fire and the wooden buttstock. The Finnish gun is, however, a first generation submachine gun while the PPSh is a typical second generation submachine gun: Mass-produced for a massive army, and thus possessing neither quickly detachable barrel nor some other luxuries such as versatility with very slight - if any - alteration of the receiver mechanism." [1]
PPSh-41 is not copy of Suomi, which is easy to notice with little researche.
PPD 34 [2] is probably the gun which you are thinking.
And why did you revert also all the typos...? Please correct those. -- 81.197.218.62 18:16, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
Nevermind, I reverted.-- 81.197.218.62 19:02, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
Where does the name "M-31" for this article come from? In the article, the gun is consistently called "KP/-31". Which is correct? Redxiv 02:54, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
i think that m/31 means malli/31, in english it means model/31. suomi M/31 KP/-31 are official "names" for Suomi KP M/31 -- 193.229.159.15 20:47, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
In 1932 or 1933 a certain Finnish spy working for the Soviets managed to steal blueprints for the Suomi M/31 and take them to the USSR. Yes, the PPSh-41 is indeed largely a poor copy of the Suomi M/31. Its earlier versions were also copies of the Suomi M/31, based on the blueprints that the USSR received from her Finnish spy. 84.248.10.87 ( talk) 20:16, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
There actually was a Russian copy, the KF-42 SMG (Karelo-Finski 1942). It was chambered for 7.62x25 TT rounds and was made in very small numbers in Leningrad during the siege. This actually reinforces the spy theory in which the Finnish plans were delivered to the Soviets. The Soviets probably found the "Suomi" unsuitable for mass production and the plans were stored in Leningrad. During the siege they were probably dug out and few guns built. My theory.
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Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 22:30, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
While the source linked in the article claims a Slovakian soldier holds this submachine gun I think it looks more like a PPD-40 since he holds on to a wooden handguard in front of the magazine which is something the PPD-40 has but the Suomi does not. It is likely a PPD-40 was captured from the Soviets. This source doesn't mention any Soumi KP-31 sold to Slovakia either. [3] https://jaegerplatoon.net/MACHINEPISTOLS1.htm 31.208.184.195 ( talk) 14:36, 27 February 2024 (UTC)