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He has clearly scrubbed himself on the internet, and that will no longer be possible given his very public corruption.
I agree, I've only seen two photos of him online, it's amazing Balwani scrubbed all of his images. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redondobeachsteve ( talk • contribs) 00:54, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
A number of IPs keep changing the article to say he was born in India. However I have confirmed that in Chapter 6 of Bad Blood he is reported to have been born in Pakistan. This can be easily verified by going to books.google.com, find Bad Blood and search box on 'Pakistan'. It's likely the IPs will continue to revert and battle on this, maybe the article will get locked down, but I'm leaving a message as a place for any discussion. -- Green C 14:13, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
The below protection request ( link) was made in light of continual changing of place of birth to India.
'''Pending changes:''' Long-term IP disruption using VPN to change place of birth from Pakistan (correct) -> India (incorrect) [https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Ramesh_Balwani&type=revision&diff=873689923&oldid=873539920][https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Ramesh_Balwani&type=revision&diff=873028905&oldid=872852755][https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Ramesh_Balwani&type=revision&diff=858670023&oldid=858648043][https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Ramesh_Balwani&type=revision&diff=858648043&oldid=858230949][https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Ramesh_Balwani&type=revision&diff=858200449&oldid=856662651][https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Ramesh_Balwani&type=revision&diff=851563783&oldid=851347443]. Attempts to [[Talk:Ramesh_Balwani#Pakistan birth|discuss on talk page]] ignored. Inline comments ignored ([https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Ramesh_Balwani&type=revision&diff=875070180&oldid=875069912 example]). Place of birth in Pakistan verified by an administrator in talk. [[User:GreenC|<span style="color: #006A4E;">'''Green'''</span>]][[User talk:GreenC|<span style="color: #093;">'''C'''</span>]] 18:17, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
-- Green C 18:33, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
I'm not sure why this page needs to have the birth country listed of Elizabeth Holmes former lover and colleague? He obviously identifies as Indian and talks to his history in India. https://abcnews.go.com/Business/theranos-remarkable-blood-test-claims-began-unravel/story?id=61173853 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.75.142.52 ( talk) 14:09, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
There seems to some confusion between sources on whether Balwani is from India or Pakistan. The current reference cites the book "Bad Blood", which looks like a good source, but the book itself cites LinkedIn for Balwani nationality, which probably isn't a good source. There seem like there are quite a few RS originating from India that claim Balwani is Indian. Does anyone has a definitive source on this topic? NickCT ( talk) 14:27, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
It's curious that the IP who keeps changing it to "India" is so long-term determined, and follows a similar pattern of modifying the text in a way that is plainly false, as in this example where the Yearbook is modified to say "India" even though the Yearbook is online and plainly says Pakistan. I wonder if it is going beyond a badly informed editor and entering the territory of disinformation (for whatever purpose). -- Green C 18:31, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
He should be considered as Indian because the way it works between India and Pakistan is that if someone chooses between one or another, that is what their identity becomes even if they have not lived in either country for a long time. He chose India before emigrating. Therefore, that is a rejection of Pakistan and makes him Indian. For example, Yasir Qadhi's family was from Indian territory but they chose Pakistan before emigrating to the US. They are therefore considered Pakistani, not Indian. Sahir Ludhianvi chose Pakistan but then chose India again. His last choice is the only thing that matters and therefore, he is considered Indian. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.125.30.205 ( talk) 02:36, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
There was a quote posted here, which was essentially putting the default position as being "business associate", despite the fact there are several sources for the assertion that they were not, and I believe there is evidence they lived together. John Carreyrou cites several sources from Theranos who all said they were in a relationship. He does not specifically state the date they started dating, but, I just want to point something out.
We have a deposition in which Elizabeth Holmes ACTUALLY STATES they were having romantic (edited: sexual is not explicitly stated but implied) relations which could easily be ascertained with a bit of google searching.
WobInDisguise ( talk) 22:04, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi,
I've been invited by Wikipedia to translate this article in french (don't ask me why), but the more I progress, the more I'm under the impression that WP:NPOV is not respected. As I'm not native speeker I may be wrong, but I'd still like your opinion on this.
Cheers -- Doubleclavier ( talk) 15:13, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
I removed the section that was sourced entirely to legal documents. This is a clear violation of WP:BLPPRIMARY and should be removed at first sight. Please do not use court documents or other public records that may contain personal and private information as these are not allowed under any circumstances. See WP:BLP/N#Ramesh Balwani for the relevant discussion. Zaereth ( talk) 22:54, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
This is a quote from Jeff Coopersmith, who is Balwani's personal attorney:
Any source that claims otherwise ie. that he was born in India, would need to be more credible than Jeff Coopersmith, who is Balwani's personal attorney. -- Green C 14:30, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
In the external links is a video of Balwani presenting to the AZ State Senate in 2014. In the first two minutes he says "We have something we believe is magical." Presumably he didn't mean actually magic, or magical thinking? In retrospect the statement appears to be hauntingly accurate. -- Green C 14:16, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
The external links section had a video of Balwani as a guest speaker to the AZ State Senate in 2014 - the video was created by the AZ state government. It is important because it is the only known video of Balwani, that I am aware of. He is one of the most secretive people I have ever encountered on Wikipedia. This 2018 news article calls him a "virtual ghost" because there is so little online. This Wikipedia article has been under constant attempts to delete and misdirect the basic facts, going back years, by a steady stream of IPs and SPAs, some geolocating to nearby (or actually in) the old Theranos HQ.
The video in question is now deleted from the AZ State Senate website. In addition, the archive of the video has also been deleted. That's pretty unusual, it takes a lot to get an archive provider to delete an archive page. It doesn't happen by mistake, it was an intentional act by the archive provider. I have reached out to them to restore, explain or provide a backup copy. Someone(s) are clearly trying to distort the facts on this page, and delete the history of Balwani online. -- Green C 05:44, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
This article gives his birth date.
https://www.businessinsider.com/who-is-ramesh-sunny-balwani-elizabeth-holmes-ex-theranos-trial-2022-3#they-initially-became-friends-and-grew-romantically-involved-later-around-the-time-holmes-dropped-out-of-stanford-at-19-years-old-to-focus-on-theranos-12 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.75.207.34 ( talk) 14:57, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
Just to note an RFC has been opened on Talk:Elizabeth_Holmes regarding the use of "fraudster", with a mention of this article. All are invited to comment. Bdushaw ( talk) 17:36, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
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He has clearly scrubbed himself on the internet, and that will no longer be possible given his very public corruption.
I agree, I've only seen two photos of him online, it's amazing Balwani scrubbed all of his images. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redondobeachsteve ( talk • contribs) 00:54, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
A number of IPs keep changing the article to say he was born in India. However I have confirmed that in Chapter 6 of Bad Blood he is reported to have been born in Pakistan. This can be easily verified by going to books.google.com, find Bad Blood and search box on 'Pakistan'. It's likely the IPs will continue to revert and battle on this, maybe the article will get locked down, but I'm leaving a message as a place for any discussion. -- Green C 14:13, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
The below protection request ( link) was made in light of continual changing of place of birth to India.
'''Pending changes:''' Long-term IP disruption using VPN to change place of birth from Pakistan (correct) -> India (incorrect) [https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Ramesh_Balwani&type=revision&diff=873689923&oldid=873539920][https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Ramesh_Balwani&type=revision&diff=873028905&oldid=872852755][https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Ramesh_Balwani&type=revision&diff=858670023&oldid=858648043][https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Ramesh_Balwani&type=revision&diff=858648043&oldid=858230949][https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Ramesh_Balwani&type=revision&diff=858200449&oldid=856662651][https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Ramesh_Balwani&type=revision&diff=851563783&oldid=851347443]. Attempts to [[Talk:Ramesh_Balwani#Pakistan birth|discuss on talk page]] ignored. Inline comments ignored ([https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Ramesh_Balwani&type=revision&diff=875070180&oldid=875069912 example]). Place of birth in Pakistan verified by an administrator in talk. [[User:GreenC|<span style="color: #006A4E;">'''Green'''</span>]][[User talk:GreenC|<span style="color: #093;">'''C'''</span>]] 18:17, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
-- Green C 18:33, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
I'm not sure why this page needs to have the birth country listed of Elizabeth Holmes former lover and colleague? He obviously identifies as Indian and talks to his history in India. https://abcnews.go.com/Business/theranos-remarkable-blood-test-claims-began-unravel/story?id=61173853 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.75.142.52 ( talk) 14:09, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
There seems to some confusion between sources on whether Balwani is from India or Pakistan. The current reference cites the book "Bad Blood", which looks like a good source, but the book itself cites LinkedIn for Balwani nationality, which probably isn't a good source. There seem like there are quite a few RS originating from India that claim Balwani is Indian. Does anyone has a definitive source on this topic? NickCT ( talk) 14:27, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
It's curious that the IP who keeps changing it to "India" is so long-term determined, and follows a similar pattern of modifying the text in a way that is plainly false, as in this example where the Yearbook is modified to say "India" even though the Yearbook is online and plainly says Pakistan. I wonder if it is going beyond a badly informed editor and entering the territory of disinformation (for whatever purpose). -- Green C 18:31, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
He should be considered as Indian because the way it works between India and Pakistan is that if someone chooses between one or another, that is what their identity becomes even if they have not lived in either country for a long time. He chose India before emigrating. Therefore, that is a rejection of Pakistan and makes him Indian. For example, Yasir Qadhi's family was from Indian territory but they chose Pakistan before emigrating to the US. They are therefore considered Pakistani, not Indian. Sahir Ludhianvi chose Pakistan but then chose India again. His last choice is the only thing that matters and therefore, he is considered Indian. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.125.30.205 ( talk) 02:36, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
There was a quote posted here, which was essentially putting the default position as being "business associate", despite the fact there are several sources for the assertion that they were not, and I believe there is evidence they lived together. John Carreyrou cites several sources from Theranos who all said they were in a relationship. He does not specifically state the date they started dating, but, I just want to point something out.
We have a deposition in which Elizabeth Holmes ACTUALLY STATES they were having romantic (edited: sexual is not explicitly stated but implied) relations which could easily be ascertained with a bit of google searching.
WobInDisguise ( talk) 22:04, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi,
I've been invited by Wikipedia to translate this article in french (don't ask me why), but the more I progress, the more I'm under the impression that WP:NPOV is not respected. As I'm not native speeker I may be wrong, but I'd still like your opinion on this.
Cheers -- Doubleclavier ( talk) 15:13, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
I removed the section that was sourced entirely to legal documents. This is a clear violation of WP:BLPPRIMARY and should be removed at first sight. Please do not use court documents or other public records that may contain personal and private information as these are not allowed under any circumstances. See WP:BLP/N#Ramesh Balwani for the relevant discussion. Zaereth ( talk) 22:54, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
This is a quote from Jeff Coopersmith, who is Balwani's personal attorney:
Any source that claims otherwise ie. that he was born in India, would need to be more credible than Jeff Coopersmith, who is Balwani's personal attorney. -- Green C 14:30, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
In the external links is a video of Balwani presenting to the AZ State Senate in 2014. In the first two minutes he says "We have something we believe is magical." Presumably he didn't mean actually magic, or magical thinking? In retrospect the statement appears to be hauntingly accurate. -- Green C 14:16, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
The external links section had a video of Balwani as a guest speaker to the AZ State Senate in 2014 - the video was created by the AZ state government. It is important because it is the only known video of Balwani, that I am aware of. He is one of the most secretive people I have ever encountered on Wikipedia. This 2018 news article calls him a "virtual ghost" because there is so little online. This Wikipedia article has been under constant attempts to delete and misdirect the basic facts, going back years, by a steady stream of IPs and SPAs, some geolocating to nearby (or actually in) the old Theranos HQ.
The video in question is now deleted from the AZ State Senate website. In addition, the archive of the video has also been deleted. That's pretty unusual, it takes a lot to get an archive provider to delete an archive page. It doesn't happen by mistake, it was an intentional act by the archive provider. I have reached out to them to restore, explain or provide a backup copy. Someone(s) are clearly trying to distort the facts on this page, and delete the history of Balwani online. -- Green C 05:44, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
This article gives his birth date.
https://www.businessinsider.com/who-is-ramesh-sunny-balwani-elizabeth-holmes-ex-theranos-trial-2022-3#they-initially-became-friends-and-grew-romantically-involved-later-around-the-time-holmes-dropped-out-of-stanford-at-19-years-old-to-focus-on-theranos-12 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.75.207.34 ( talk) 14:57, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
Just to note an RFC has been opened on Talk:Elizabeth_Holmes regarding the use of "fraudster", with a mention of this article. All are invited to comment. Bdushaw ( talk) 17:36, 18 April 2023 (UTC)