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A fact from Sumner Z. Kaplan appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 20 March 2024 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
Comment: Article was 294 characters, and is now 2249 characters, thus more than 5 time expansion of article. Article checked for copyright violation and highest score is 9%, and is an unlikely violation. I have done my QPQ. I request that the hook be held for the main page until the article subject's birthday on 3 February, or the article subject's death anniversary of 20 March.
A nice article about an interesting figure. I concur that there has been a 5x expansion and that I find no plagiarism here. Article meets DYK-relevant policies. Good to go. Promoter please note nominator requests for hook to be used on specific date. ezlev (
user/
tlk/
ctrbs)
19:50, 4 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Regrettably, the submitted QPQ was a review with a severe error: the article had been moved from draftspace to mainspace on the same day it was nominated, so it was new enough, however the review failed it for newness reasons. Either the original QPQ will need to be re-reviewed, or a new QPQ will be needed. Thanks.
BlueMoonset (
talk)
05:37, 18 January 2024 (UTC)reply
ALT3 "...that Massachusetts Senator
Ted Kennedy disliked Massachusetts politician Sumner Z. Kaplan(pictured) after he managed a senatorial campaign of an opponent?" source:
WGBH.
ALT5 "...that United States Army Reserve Brigadier General Sumner Z. Kaplan(pictured) had opposed anti-communist legislation when he was a member of the Massachusetts House of Representatives?" source:
The Boston Globe
@
AirshipJungleman29: It was a big deal that during the Cold War that an American Army officer opposed anti-communist legislation. At the time it was the norm for those in the military to oppose communism, not oppose anti-communist efforts.
On Beacon Hill, Mr. Kaplan did not shy from taking stands that bucked the prevailing mood. In the mid-1950s, when US Senator Joseph McCarthy of Wisconsin turned the red scare into something of a national obsession, the Massachusetts House passed a bill calling for public school teachers to be fired if they refused to say if they were Communists. In an unsuccessful attempt to get the bill reconsidered, Mr. Kaplan questioned its constitutionality and said it turned teachers into “second-class citizens.’’
Due to delays in hook selection, this will miss the initial goal of having this hook go up on the article subject's birthday of 3 February. Therefore, once approved can this hook please be held until the anniversary of the article subject's death of 22 March?--
RightCowLeftCoast (
Moo)
23:44, 2 February 2024 (UTC)reply
@
BlueMoonset and
AirshipJungleman29: Is the new review tick the appropriate tick for this nomination? Is there something wrong with the article? This delay has caused this DYKN to miss the first requested date of February 3rd, and I hope it isn't delayed so it missed the second requested date of March 22nd.--
RightCowLeftCoast (
Moo)
00:54, 9 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Yes, the new review icon is appropriate: someone is needed to review ALT3, ALT4, and ALT5 since the previous three hooks have been struck; the nomination cannot pass without a review of those hooks. It is highly unlikely that it will take six more weeks to get this passed.
BlueMoonset (
talk)
03:57, 9 February 2024 (UTC)reply
The problem with ALT5 is that, as written, there isn't any context as to when Kaplan was, so a layreader would not know it was unusual at the time. ALT3's source says "According to Eleanor, the Kennedys didn't speak to my grandfather for years"; I'm not convinced that this definitely says that Kaplan disliked Ted. ALT4 appears in the article and is sourced, park to
[1] and rabbi and brigadier general to
[2], though I'd expect a more merciless prepbuilder to truncate ALT4 at 'Kaplan'. I'm happy with this running on 22 March - let's roll.--Launchballer00:24, 12 February 2024 (UTC)reply
RightCowLeftCoast, I see that you have changed the secondary request in recent comments from 20 March to 22 March, but the article says that Kaplan died on 20 March. Shouldn't this be under 20 March rather than 22 March? If not, what's the special occasion for 22 March? Thanks.
BlueMoonset (
talk)
04:00, 18 February 2024 (UTC)reply
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to
join the project and
contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the
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A fact from Sumner Z. Kaplan appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 20 March 2024 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
Comment: Article was 294 characters, and is now 2249 characters, thus more than 5 time expansion of article. Article checked for copyright violation and highest score is 9%, and is an unlikely violation. I have done my QPQ. I request that the hook be held for the main page until the article subject's birthday on 3 February, or the article subject's death anniversary of 20 March.
A nice article about an interesting figure. I concur that there has been a 5x expansion and that I find no plagiarism here. Article meets DYK-relevant policies. Good to go. Promoter please note nominator requests for hook to be used on specific date. ezlev (
user/
tlk/
ctrbs)
19:50, 4 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Regrettably, the submitted QPQ was a review with a severe error: the article had been moved from draftspace to mainspace on the same day it was nominated, so it was new enough, however the review failed it for newness reasons. Either the original QPQ will need to be re-reviewed, or a new QPQ will be needed. Thanks.
BlueMoonset (
talk)
05:37, 18 January 2024 (UTC)reply
ALT3 "...that Massachusetts Senator
Ted Kennedy disliked Massachusetts politician Sumner Z. Kaplan(pictured) after he managed a senatorial campaign of an opponent?" source:
WGBH.
ALT5 "...that United States Army Reserve Brigadier General Sumner Z. Kaplan(pictured) had opposed anti-communist legislation when he was a member of the Massachusetts House of Representatives?" source:
The Boston Globe
@
AirshipJungleman29: It was a big deal that during the Cold War that an American Army officer opposed anti-communist legislation. At the time it was the norm for those in the military to oppose communism, not oppose anti-communist efforts.
On Beacon Hill, Mr. Kaplan did not shy from taking stands that bucked the prevailing mood. In the mid-1950s, when US Senator Joseph McCarthy of Wisconsin turned the red scare into something of a national obsession, the Massachusetts House passed a bill calling for public school teachers to be fired if they refused to say if they were Communists. In an unsuccessful attempt to get the bill reconsidered, Mr. Kaplan questioned its constitutionality and said it turned teachers into “second-class citizens.’’
Due to delays in hook selection, this will miss the initial goal of having this hook go up on the article subject's birthday of 3 February. Therefore, once approved can this hook please be held until the anniversary of the article subject's death of 22 March?--
RightCowLeftCoast (
Moo)
23:44, 2 February 2024 (UTC)reply
@
BlueMoonset and
AirshipJungleman29: Is the new review tick the appropriate tick for this nomination? Is there something wrong with the article? This delay has caused this DYKN to miss the first requested date of February 3rd, and I hope it isn't delayed so it missed the second requested date of March 22nd.--
RightCowLeftCoast (
Moo)
00:54, 9 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Yes, the new review icon is appropriate: someone is needed to review ALT3, ALT4, and ALT5 since the previous three hooks have been struck; the nomination cannot pass without a review of those hooks. It is highly unlikely that it will take six more weeks to get this passed.
BlueMoonset (
talk)
03:57, 9 February 2024 (UTC)reply
The problem with ALT5 is that, as written, there isn't any context as to when Kaplan was, so a layreader would not know it was unusual at the time. ALT3's source says "According to Eleanor, the Kennedys didn't speak to my grandfather for years"; I'm not convinced that this definitely says that Kaplan disliked Ted. ALT4 appears in the article and is sourced, park to
[1] and rabbi and brigadier general to
[2], though I'd expect a more merciless prepbuilder to truncate ALT4 at 'Kaplan'. I'm happy with this running on 22 March - let's roll.--Launchballer00:24, 12 February 2024 (UTC)reply
RightCowLeftCoast, I see that you have changed the secondary request in recent comments from 20 March to 22 March, but the article says that Kaplan died on 20 March. Shouldn't this be under 20 March rather than 22 March? If not, what's the special occasion for 22 March? Thanks.
BlueMoonset (
talk)
04:00, 18 February 2024 (UTC)reply