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I have removed the passage above from the article. What is the source for this speculative statement? Aramgar ( talk) 21:17, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. DrKay ( talk) 09:17, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Suleyman I of Rûm → Suleyman bin Kutalmish — If we look at Category:Seljuk Sultans of Rûm, there is one of the articles - this one - which has a title which is not consistent with the others. From the article, we can see that there is a name for the subject which would be more consistent. Now we could quibble over how to spell Suleiman/Sulaiman/Suleyman/Sulayman and Kutalmis/Kutalmish and even whether ibn or bin was more appropriate, but there us no getting away from the fact that Suleyman bin Kutalmish and the obvious variants appear in print while the current title does not. Angus McLellan (Talk) 02:18, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
It seems there was a discussion on the name of the article and with a very few support it has been moved. Too bad the discussion is closed. But move reverting should be considered.
Takabeg ( talk) 00:32, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved ( non-admin closure) ( t · c) buidhe 05:48, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Suleiman ibn Qutulmish → Suleiman I of Rûm – This article needs to be reverted back to its original title per WP:TITLECON, and WP:NCROY. The original argument that was made on the grounds of consistency is not valid anymore as many of the pages were moved to more concise and appropriate titles in the following years. In fact, at this point, all of the subsequent Rum sultans are named by their first name and regnal number ( Suleiman II of Rûm, Kilij Arslan I, Mesud I, Kilij Arslan II, Kaykhusraw I, etc.) The instructions for naming monarchs are also pretty clear, and Suleiman I of Rûm would be the best choice according to the criteria. Keivan.f Talk 21:50, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved ( non-admin closure) BegbertBiggs ( talk) 13:40, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Suleiman ibn Qutulmish → Suleiman ibn Qutalmish – The consensus from an earlier discussion showed that compared to "Suleiman I of Rum", the current name "Suleiman ibn Qutulmish" (lit. Suleiman son of Qutulmish) is actually more common. However, it seems that the spelling of his father's name is incorrect. The modern Turkish spelling of the name is Kutalmış. Currently, his father's article is at Qutalmish. So an argument based on WP:TITLECON can be made for moving this page. User:Takabeg also had left a comment on the talk page a long time ago, which demonstrated that "Suleiman ibn Qutalmish" is the common name when compared to other variant spellings. The page, thus, needs to be moved based on WP:COMMONNAME as well. Keivan.f Talk 09:55, 9 January 2021 (UTC) —Relisting. BegbertBiggs ( talk) 10:24, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
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I have removed the passage above from the article. What is the source for this speculative statement? Aramgar ( talk) 21:17, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. DrKay ( talk) 09:17, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Suleyman I of Rûm → Suleyman bin Kutalmish — If we look at Category:Seljuk Sultans of Rûm, there is one of the articles - this one - which has a title which is not consistent with the others. From the article, we can see that there is a name for the subject which would be more consistent. Now we could quibble over how to spell Suleiman/Sulaiman/Suleyman/Sulayman and Kutalmis/Kutalmish and even whether ibn or bin was more appropriate, but there us no getting away from the fact that Suleyman bin Kutalmish and the obvious variants appear in print while the current title does not. Angus McLellan (Talk) 02:18, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
It seems there was a discussion on the name of the article and with a very few support it has been moved. Too bad the discussion is closed. But move reverting should be considered.
Takabeg ( talk) 00:32, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved ( non-admin closure) ( t · c) buidhe 05:48, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Suleiman ibn Qutulmish → Suleiman I of Rûm – This article needs to be reverted back to its original title per WP:TITLECON, and WP:NCROY. The original argument that was made on the grounds of consistency is not valid anymore as many of the pages were moved to more concise and appropriate titles in the following years. In fact, at this point, all of the subsequent Rum sultans are named by their first name and regnal number ( Suleiman II of Rûm, Kilij Arslan I, Mesud I, Kilij Arslan II, Kaykhusraw I, etc.) The instructions for naming monarchs are also pretty clear, and Suleiman I of Rûm would be the best choice according to the criteria. Keivan.f Talk 21:50, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved ( non-admin closure) BegbertBiggs ( talk) 13:40, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Suleiman ibn Qutulmish → Suleiman ibn Qutalmish – The consensus from an earlier discussion showed that compared to "Suleiman I of Rum", the current name "Suleiman ibn Qutulmish" (lit. Suleiman son of Qutulmish) is actually more common. However, it seems that the spelling of his father's name is incorrect. The modern Turkish spelling of the name is Kutalmış. Currently, his father's article is at Qutalmish. So an argument based on WP:TITLECON can be made for moving this page. User:Takabeg also had left a comment on the talk page a long time ago, which demonstrated that "Suleiman ibn Qutalmish" is the common name when compared to other variant spellings. The page, thus, needs to be moved based on WP:COMMONNAME as well. Keivan.f Talk 09:55, 9 January 2021 (UTC) —Relisting. BegbertBiggs ( talk) 10:24, 17 January 2021 (UTC)