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It seems too USA-centric to call them popular pets outside Australia if they they are popular only in the USA... Data on their usage as pets throughout the world shall be documented too Undead Herle King ( talk) 19:42, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
== Copy write ==I love SUgar Gliders....
Diets listed are not patented or copywriten. Therefore it is free for everyone to use. There is little format changes to be made, but not much.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by KollanH ( talk • contribs) 01:25, 6 December 2006 (UTC). sugar gliders are cool —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.41.148.2 ( talk) 16:22, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
My understanding is that the gliders being bred as pets in the US derive from Indonesia, which controls West Papua and no doubt much easier to export wildlife from than Australia. So these gliders don't represent a "legal or illegal" export from Australia as stated in the article.
I would expect that if the US gliders were known to be derived illegally from Australia, knowing Australia they would get US authorities to shut the pet trade down (as "proceeds of crime" perhaps?).
What does Bona-fide mean? Bawolff 04:00, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Not all native animals are protected by law in Australia, and it is legal to keep some of them as pets (in some states) -- Danny Yee 09:54, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
I was wondering if they are legal in Canada? I would like to get one but im not sure on the legal status of them as pets here. -Knighttime —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.52.201.159 ( talk) 06:05, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Er, the article on Bergmann's rule states that animals in northern regions will be larger than southern forms. Are northern forms of the sugar glider an exception, and thus smaller, or did the article mean to say "larger"? 66.176.44.210 04:05, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
Is it right that this was on the 1c coin? It seems that it used to be on the page because of the wikipedia mirrors I saw on google. ---- Astrokey44| talk 12:35, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
...but there are plants that are safe to have in a sugar glider environment. If "certain plants are poisonous to sugar gliders", then it would stand to reason there are other plants that are not. Xnuiem 00:36, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
I have proposed the creation of Wikiproject Pocket pets, if interested, please visit the proposal page. thanks! VanTucky 05:12, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 03:49, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
It says in the "Sugar gliders as pets" section that "Sugar Gliders bred and kept in captivity behave differently than those in the wild." I think it would be good for this point to be expanded on. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.20.127.239 ( talk) 15:54, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I guess I goofed up a little bit here today.
It bothers me when some people intentionally submit false or misleading information. A long time ago I thought I had edited the page so that it stated that Sugar Gliders ARE Exotic animals as defined by the USDA. Then someone went behind me and changed it, so I noticed today. So, not totally thinking, I used my Freedom of Speech and I replied to the change instead of simply making the change stating facts only. Therefore, it looked like I may have been personally lashing out at whoever made the comment that the USDA states that they are NOT Exotic animals when they really are. I did not intend to lash out or sound like I was lashing out at anyone. I hope the current factual changes I just attempted are acceptable, and are truly backed up by the link of the original poster. Some people interpret things differently then others. If you read the USDA page you should come to the conclusion that according to the USDA Sugar Gliders fall under the "Exotic Animal" definition as defined by the USDA in their posted link. ;) Sutton 23:41, 17 November 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by RCEMS629 ( talk • contribs)
Should we have a separate page Sugar Gliders as pets, to keep the information for owners in one place, separate from the general biology? -- Danny Yee 00:25, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
The following moved from main article. 216.106.172.42 ( talk) 16:14, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
To arrive at the conclusion of whether or not a Sugar Glider is an “exotic animal” as defined by the USDA, one must adhere to the strict rules used by all legal professionals for interpreting any U.S law or code.
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Under Title 9 Chapter 1, Sec. 1.1 of the USDA code, an “exotic animal” is strictly defined as follows:
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I know things like this can get tricky sometimes, so as an attorney I felt it was important to clarify. Feel free to delete this after reading.
Regarding this statement: "According to a study conducted by the American Veterinary Medicine Association (AVMA) in 2007, it is estimated that American families have 1.1 million domestic Sugar Gliders in their homes; placing them between hamsters (1.2 million) and Guinea Pigs (1 million) in commonality as a household pet.[citation needed]"
The study to which the author of this entry refers is the U.S. Pet Ownership & Demographics Sourcebook (2007 edition).
I have access to the entire sourcebook, and have verified that sugar gliders are mentioned only in passing in the narrative, and are not addressed individually, as are hamsters, guinea pigs, and ferrets.
The correct quote is as follows: "... 1.2 million hamsters, 1.1 million FERRETS, and 1 million Guinea Pigs ..."
Several days ago, I edited the Wikipedia article and removed "sugar gliders" from the statement, inserting "ferrets" in its place, but I see that the author has removed my correction. I have therefore edited it (corrected it) once again.
I would suggest that the statement be removed completely, since sugar gliders are not mentioned in the numeric information in the sourcebook, or simply include the correct sourcebook statement regarding sugar gliders.
Thank you for your attention.
Marchiafava ( talk) 00:25, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
NEVER BUY FROM A FLEA MARKET, TRADING VILLAGE, FAIR, PET STORE OR EXPOS.
they are funny —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.106.152.158 ( talk) 05:29, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
I heard that sugar gliders eat fruit and dried fruit but not citrus fruit!!! Is that correct??? i've been wondering and i've been afraid to feed my sugar glider citrus fruit because i would be afraid it would hurt him?!?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.19.77.4 ( talk) 14:09, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Would it be possiblle, please, to protect this page from continued vandalism, where some non-registered users have repeatedly and offensively called these beautiful marsupials by the insulting term of 'flying rats'. Figaro ( talk) 15:05, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
There are several recognized diets. I don't want to dispute anything, just get some information added so that there are citations for the diets. Priscilla Price diet (aka PP diet): http://www.thepetglider.com/index/the-pet-glider-nutrition-system/the-pet-glider-nutrition-system.html Bourbon's Modified Leadbeaters (aka BML): http://www.angelfire.com/nb/sugargliders/bml/leadbeat.html High Protien Wombaroo (aka HPW): http://www.gliderdad79.com/hpw.php Candy's Blended Diet (aka Blended): http://www.gliderkids.com/BLENDED-GLIDER-DIET.html Darcy's Diet (aka Ensure diet): http://www.glidercentral.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/118485/Darcy_s_Diet_Anyone#Post118485 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.123.150.2 ( talk) 18:05, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
Readded the comment regarding the usage of dry pellet foods. They certainly exist and are sold by breeders. Some forums/breeders belief that they are bad. As far as I can tell there are no research papers regarding the use of the dry foods. The only research I can locate is on non-pelleted foods. I cannot prove (or cite) a negative however. This is a very passionate topic from what I can tell and I think the statement is pretty NPOV. Any advice from more experienced wikiers on how to approach this? Dcpirahna ( talk) 03:51, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
Be advised that the sugar glider was mentioned in today's XKCD (30 May 2012). Please take any appropriate action. Happily, there've been no xkcd-related edits so far. Theclapp ( talk) 16:28, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
__________END of Archive 1 created by ~Eric F 74.60.29.141 ( talk) 04:02, 19 October 2012 (UTC)_________
___________BEGIN Archive 1, created: 04:02, 19 October 2012 (UTC)_______________
It seems too USA-centric to call them popular pets outside Australia if they they are popular only in the USA... Data on their usage as pets throughout the world shall be documented too Undead Herle King ( talk) 19:42, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
== Copy write ==I love SUgar Gliders....
Diets listed are not patented or copywriten. Therefore it is free for everyone to use. There is little format changes to be made, but not much.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by KollanH ( talk • contribs) 01:25, 6 December 2006 (UTC). sugar gliders are cool —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.41.148.2 ( talk) 16:22, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
My understanding is that the gliders being bred as pets in the US derive from Indonesia, which controls West Papua and no doubt much easier to export wildlife from than Australia. So these gliders don't represent a "legal or illegal" export from Australia as stated in the article.
I would expect that if the US gliders were known to be derived illegally from Australia, knowing Australia they would get US authorities to shut the pet trade down (as "proceeds of crime" perhaps?).
What does Bona-fide mean? Bawolff 04:00, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Not all native animals are protected by law in Australia, and it is legal to keep some of them as pets (in some states) -- Danny Yee 09:54, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
I was wondering if they are legal in Canada? I would like to get one but im not sure on the legal status of them as pets here. -Knighttime —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.52.201.159 ( talk) 06:05, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Er, the article on Bergmann's rule states that animals in northern regions will be larger than southern forms. Are northern forms of the sugar glider an exception, and thus smaller, or did the article mean to say "larger"? 66.176.44.210 04:05, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
Is it right that this was on the 1c coin? It seems that it used to be on the page because of the wikipedia mirrors I saw on google. ---- Astrokey44| talk 12:35, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
...but there are plants that are safe to have in a sugar glider environment. If "certain plants are poisonous to sugar gliders", then it would stand to reason there are other plants that are not. Xnuiem 00:36, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
I have proposed the creation of Wikiproject Pocket pets, if interested, please visit the proposal page. thanks! VanTucky 05:12, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 03:49, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
It says in the "Sugar gliders as pets" section that "Sugar Gliders bred and kept in captivity behave differently than those in the wild." I think it would be good for this point to be expanded on. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.20.127.239 ( talk) 15:54, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I guess I goofed up a little bit here today.
It bothers me when some people intentionally submit false or misleading information. A long time ago I thought I had edited the page so that it stated that Sugar Gliders ARE Exotic animals as defined by the USDA. Then someone went behind me and changed it, so I noticed today. So, not totally thinking, I used my Freedom of Speech and I replied to the change instead of simply making the change stating facts only. Therefore, it looked like I may have been personally lashing out at whoever made the comment that the USDA states that they are NOT Exotic animals when they really are. I did not intend to lash out or sound like I was lashing out at anyone. I hope the current factual changes I just attempted are acceptable, and are truly backed up by the link of the original poster. Some people interpret things differently then others. If you read the USDA page you should come to the conclusion that according to the USDA Sugar Gliders fall under the "Exotic Animal" definition as defined by the USDA in their posted link. ;) Sutton 23:41, 17 November 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by RCEMS629 ( talk • contribs)
Should we have a separate page Sugar Gliders as pets, to keep the information for owners in one place, separate from the general biology? -- Danny Yee 00:25, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
The following moved from main article. 216.106.172.42 ( talk) 16:14, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
To arrive at the conclusion of whether or not a Sugar Glider is an “exotic animal” as defined by the USDA, one must adhere to the strict rules used by all legal professionals for interpreting any U.S law or code.
Extended content
|
---|
Under Title 9 Chapter 1, Sec. 1.1 of the USDA code, an “exotic animal” is strictly defined as follows:
|
I know things like this can get tricky sometimes, so as an attorney I felt it was important to clarify. Feel free to delete this after reading.
Regarding this statement: "According to a study conducted by the American Veterinary Medicine Association (AVMA) in 2007, it is estimated that American families have 1.1 million domestic Sugar Gliders in their homes; placing them between hamsters (1.2 million) and Guinea Pigs (1 million) in commonality as a household pet.[citation needed]"
The study to which the author of this entry refers is the U.S. Pet Ownership & Demographics Sourcebook (2007 edition).
I have access to the entire sourcebook, and have verified that sugar gliders are mentioned only in passing in the narrative, and are not addressed individually, as are hamsters, guinea pigs, and ferrets.
The correct quote is as follows: "... 1.2 million hamsters, 1.1 million FERRETS, and 1 million Guinea Pigs ..."
Several days ago, I edited the Wikipedia article and removed "sugar gliders" from the statement, inserting "ferrets" in its place, but I see that the author has removed my correction. I have therefore edited it (corrected it) once again.
I would suggest that the statement be removed completely, since sugar gliders are not mentioned in the numeric information in the sourcebook, or simply include the correct sourcebook statement regarding sugar gliders.
Thank you for your attention.
Marchiafava ( talk) 00:25, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
NEVER BUY FROM A FLEA MARKET, TRADING VILLAGE, FAIR, PET STORE OR EXPOS.
they are funny —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.106.152.158 ( talk) 05:29, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
I heard that sugar gliders eat fruit and dried fruit but not citrus fruit!!! Is that correct??? i've been wondering and i've been afraid to feed my sugar glider citrus fruit because i would be afraid it would hurt him?!?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.19.77.4 ( talk) 14:09, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Would it be possiblle, please, to protect this page from continued vandalism, where some non-registered users have repeatedly and offensively called these beautiful marsupials by the insulting term of 'flying rats'. Figaro ( talk) 15:05, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
There are several recognized diets. I don't want to dispute anything, just get some information added so that there are citations for the diets. Priscilla Price diet (aka PP diet): http://www.thepetglider.com/index/the-pet-glider-nutrition-system/the-pet-glider-nutrition-system.html Bourbon's Modified Leadbeaters (aka BML): http://www.angelfire.com/nb/sugargliders/bml/leadbeat.html High Protien Wombaroo (aka HPW): http://www.gliderdad79.com/hpw.php Candy's Blended Diet (aka Blended): http://www.gliderkids.com/BLENDED-GLIDER-DIET.html Darcy's Diet (aka Ensure diet): http://www.glidercentral.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/118485/Darcy_s_Diet_Anyone#Post118485 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.123.150.2 ( talk) 18:05, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
Readded the comment regarding the usage of dry pellet foods. They certainly exist and are sold by breeders. Some forums/breeders belief that they are bad. As far as I can tell there are no research papers regarding the use of the dry foods. The only research I can locate is on non-pelleted foods. I cannot prove (or cite) a negative however. This is a very passionate topic from what I can tell and I think the statement is pretty NPOV. Any advice from more experienced wikiers on how to approach this? Dcpirahna ( talk) 03:51, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
Be advised that the sugar glider was mentioned in today's XKCD (30 May 2012). Please take any appropriate action. Happily, there've been no xkcd-related edits so far. Theclapp ( talk) 16:28, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
__________END of Archive 1 created by ~Eric F 74.60.29.141 ( talk) 04:02, 19 October 2012 (UTC)_________