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I've added a new subsection for a list of Imams and added a new section for each type of movement -- Notedgrant ( talk) 11:05, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Here is what I feel should be the basic format of the article
This section should start with a bit about Sufism; Initial Sufi saints in India including Ali Hujwiri
The establishment of the Chishti order by Moinuddin Chishti. Its practices and patronage. The big 6: Moinuddin Chishti, Bhaktiyar Kaki, Baba Farid, Nizamuddin Awliya, Chirag Dehalvi and Khwaja Bande Nawaz. Its splitting into branches.
Role of the Sufi saints in comparison to the Bhakti movement in Hinduism; conversion of natives to Islam
Qawwali, Tombs, Shrines etc of the Sufi saints; The role in shaping Indo-Islamic culture
A note on the metamorphosis that Sufi orders have undergone following which they are no longer separate entities; rather initiation is done in many orders at the same time; reason for this synthesis (primarily decay and lack of vigor)
I propose that at present only blue links be added here. This automatically ensures (to some extent) that only notable Sufis are included. -- Shahab ( talk) 11:31, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
I propose moving this article to the more generic Sufism in India article. The reasons are as follows:
If there is no objection for a reasonable amount of time (few days) I will go ahead with the move. Regards-- Shahab ( talk) 14:48, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
I do not think various orders of sufism should be explained in detail because they already have articles explaining them in detail -- NotedGrant Talk 08:39, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Why has this article been rated as stub class (Shahab I'm really sorry I did not find much time to improve this article :( I'll try my best)-- NotedGrant Talk 17:21, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
I am thinking that these perhaps merit a page of their own, I was wondering what everyone else thought of that. Perhaps a summarized section regarding the different orders for this article? That's just me, the article really seems to have some general clutter and readability issues and I'd like to improve this in any way that I can. Peter Deer ( talk) 05:59, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Sufism in India/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
This article needs a big history section; criteria for a Sufi saint to be included should be specified |
Last edited at 01:54, 1 January 2012 (UTC). Substituted at 07:14, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
This order strictly prohibits music, dance and other liberal ingredients of the sufism. [1]. This makes no sense, they sing Salawats? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.84.230.77 ( talk) 08:50, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
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I've added a new subsection for a list of Imams and added a new section for each type of movement -- Notedgrant ( talk) 11:05, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Here is what I feel should be the basic format of the article
This section should start with a bit about Sufism; Initial Sufi saints in India including Ali Hujwiri
The establishment of the Chishti order by Moinuddin Chishti. Its practices and patronage. The big 6: Moinuddin Chishti, Bhaktiyar Kaki, Baba Farid, Nizamuddin Awliya, Chirag Dehalvi and Khwaja Bande Nawaz. Its splitting into branches.
Role of the Sufi saints in comparison to the Bhakti movement in Hinduism; conversion of natives to Islam
Qawwali, Tombs, Shrines etc of the Sufi saints; The role in shaping Indo-Islamic culture
A note on the metamorphosis that Sufi orders have undergone following which they are no longer separate entities; rather initiation is done in many orders at the same time; reason for this synthesis (primarily decay and lack of vigor)
I propose that at present only blue links be added here. This automatically ensures (to some extent) that only notable Sufis are included. -- Shahab ( talk) 11:31, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
I propose moving this article to the more generic Sufism in India article. The reasons are as follows:
If there is no objection for a reasonable amount of time (few days) I will go ahead with the move. Regards-- Shahab ( talk) 14:48, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
I do not think various orders of sufism should be explained in detail because they already have articles explaining them in detail -- NotedGrant Talk 08:39, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Why has this article been rated as stub class (Shahab I'm really sorry I did not find much time to improve this article :( I'll try my best)-- NotedGrant Talk 17:21, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
I am thinking that these perhaps merit a page of their own, I was wondering what everyone else thought of that. Perhaps a summarized section regarding the different orders for this article? That's just me, the article really seems to have some general clutter and readability issues and I'd like to improve this in any way that I can. Peter Deer ( talk) 05:59, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Sufism in India/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
This article needs a big history section; criteria for a Sufi saint to be included should be specified |
Last edited at 01:54, 1 January 2012 (UTC). Substituted at 07:14, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
This order strictly prohibits music, dance and other liberal ingredients of the sufism. [1]. This makes no sense, they sing Salawats? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.84.230.77 ( talk) 08:50, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
References