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To Arsenal fan, have you yourself tried to find source before thinking it does not meet gng? Don't demand without searching by yourself. If you fail to find to sources, you are welcome to demand.--
Dwaipayan (
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04:50, 18 August 2013 (UTC)reply
Other than match reports what else it there? Other than that I can find small articles about a few teams that may participate but nothing major that would allow it to pass GNG. --
ArsenalFan700 (
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19:21, 18 August 2013 (UTC)reply
This tournament is at national-level, it is not a small town-based upstart tournament. And this has been going for some decades now. In this article, we are talking about something which has more spread than, say,
Kansas Shrine Bowl or
Bayou Bowl (which have many more online newspaper/other sources available).
wp:systemic bias? May be. Anyway, this tournament easily pass GNG. If not convinced, you are welcome to take this to AfD.--
Dwaipayan (
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21:20, 18 August 2013 (UTC)reply
First off,
WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS and that is a different sport. One of those tournaments have been running for more than 40 years and only got a page less than 3 months ago. Whether they are notable or not is not my problem. Second, understand GNG when it comes to association football. Match reports are just routine coverage. Of course, this is mainly said for players but it can be used in this situation as well. Right now this tournament is just a youth tournament that is not even held by the official football federation, nor any athletic association in India. Yes, it is historic, yes it has been around for a long time, but that makes no bloody difference. Right now, what this deserves, is a sub-section in
Football in India. Yes, their is no section but it can be created. Other than match reports for the final rounds of the tournament and a few articles about "such and such are in the Subroto Cup" nothing else is available. So with all this in mind, that is why it needs a redirect. --
ArsenalFan700 (
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21:38, 18 August 2013 (UTC)reply
This page is about a tournament for schools in India. The tournament is not affiliated with the main football body in India, the
All India Football Federation and it does not pass GNG as there are no articles of worth available other than match reports which do nothing but prove that this tournament exists.
Yes, it ia school-level tournament. The schools compete at a national level. And it meets GNG due to its coverage in mainstream media for decades. SO, I strongly oppose th emove mentioned above. The article easily meets GNG, and deserves stand-alone article; Times of India says, it is "The premier age-group soccer tournament of the country". Affiliation (or not) with AIFF does not determine GNG! Bye the way, a small subsection in Football in India, describing different yout football in the country is very much welcome.--
Dwaipayan (
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20:22, 18 August 2013 (UTC)reply
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India-related topics. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page.IndiaWikipedia:WikiProject IndiaTemplate:WikiProject IndiaIndia articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Football, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Association football on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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To Arsenal fan, have you yourself tried to find source before thinking it does not meet gng? Don't demand without searching by yourself. If you fail to find to sources, you are welcome to demand.--
Dwaipayan (
talk)
04:50, 18 August 2013 (UTC)reply
Other than match reports what else it there? Other than that I can find small articles about a few teams that may participate but nothing major that would allow it to pass GNG. --
ArsenalFan700 (
talk)
19:21, 18 August 2013 (UTC)reply
This tournament is at national-level, it is not a small town-based upstart tournament. And this has been going for some decades now. In this article, we are talking about something which has more spread than, say,
Kansas Shrine Bowl or
Bayou Bowl (which have many more online newspaper/other sources available).
wp:systemic bias? May be. Anyway, this tournament easily pass GNG. If not convinced, you are welcome to take this to AfD.--
Dwaipayan (
talk)
21:20, 18 August 2013 (UTC)reply
First off,
WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS and that is a different sport. One of those tournaments have been running for more than 40 years and only got a page less than 3 months ago. Whether they are notable or not is not my problem. Second, understand GNG when it comes to association football. Match reports are just routine coverage. Of course, this is mainly said for players but it can be used in this situation as well. Right now this tournament is just a youth tournament that is not even held by the official football federation, nor any athletic association in India. Yes, it is historic, yes it has been around for a long time, but that makes no bloody difference. Right now, what this deserves, is a sub-section in
Football in India. Yes, their is no section but it can be created. Other than match reports for the final rounds of the tournament and a few articles about "such and such are in the Subroto Cup" nothing else is available. So with all this in mind, that is why it needs a redirect. --
ArsenalFan700 (
talk)
21:38, 18 August 2013 (UTC)reply
This page is about a tournament for schools in India. The tournament is not affiliated with the main football body in India, the
All India Football Federation and it does not pass GNG as there are no articles of worth available other than match reports which do nothing but prove that this tournament exists.
Yes, it ia school-level tournament. The schools compete at a national level. And it meets GNG due to its coverage in mainstream media for decades. SO, I strongly oppose th emove mentioned above. The article easily meets GNG, and deserves stand-alone article; Times of India says, it is "The premier age-group soccer tournament of the country". Affiliation (or not) with AIFF does not determine GNG! Bye the way, a small subsection in Football in India, describing different yout football in the country is very much welcome.--
Dwaipayan (
talk)
20:22, 18 August 2013 (UTC)reply