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Like Roe v. Wade? -- Howard the Duck 12:27, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Sec. 2. The complaint or information – The complaint or information shall be in writing, in the name of the People of the Philippines and against all persons who appear to be responsible for the offense involved.
I edited the portion about the nickname to show that it's a designated name intended to protect her identity although, as I've written above, her real name is . However, one thing I'm not clear about is if it's the media or the court that gave her the designation. Any help to clarify this would be appreciated. --- Tito Pao 00:18, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
There are several inconsistencies throughout the article. In some places the name is Nicole and in some it is Suzette. I vote to call her Nicole throughout. -- SophiaAntonette 31 July 2009
does anyone know what the verdict says about why the other accused were acquitted? I think it's relevant to the article.
BTW the inquirer link is gone Sandtiger 00:14, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
As of the news, the Philippine government released Daniel Smith without court order last year (I remembered that it was December 29, 2006 at dawn, please verify this). He is currently under custody at the US Embassy in the Philippines. Many rallies are occuring within the area just due to this case. A-yao 10:07, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
I have today edited the Application to this case section of this article, adding a couple of cites of articles from the list of collected news articles. The single sentence following my second cite, "The Court of Appeals has yet to decide on the custody ruling of the trial court and on the appeal of the Subic rape case.", has been overtaken by events and is now incorrect and outdated; that needs to be corrected and the corrected info supported by a cite. Further info probably needs to be added as it develops, supported by appropriate cites. I don't plan on appointing myself maintainer of this article, but I'll keep looking at it from time to time. -- Boracay Bill 06:24, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Hope it's now quite updated. The article, though, still needs to be expanded, maintained and completed. -- Weekeejames 11:50, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
This article seems to have some kind of agenda behind it. For example, the commentary on society and rape doesn't make sense for an encyclopedic entry. The intro line "it all started when..." is also unprofessional and too informal. The bias needs to be toned down a bit in other areas as well and the sources need to be more well rounded in my opinion. Swatpig 09:42, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Drawn to look at this article once again by a recent change, I happened to glance at parts unrelated to that change, and was struck by
[...] Nicole also alleged that Smith's other companions, Lance Corporals Keith Silkwood and Dominic Duplantis and Staff Sergeant Chad Carpentier, were inside the van cheering Smith on as the incident happened. The American servicemen denied the charges. [...]
Perhaps I am nitpicking here, but I read this as saying that Smith's companions denied that they were in the van cheering Smith on. AFAIK, this is not the case. The charges placed against Smith's companions are unclear from the article; my understanding is that all four were charged with having committed the crime of rape, and that all four denied that they had committed that crime. I have deleted the sentence "The American servicemen denied the charges.". It would probably be better to replace this deleted sentence with clarification of precisely what charges were denied, by whom, and on what grounds. -- Boracay Bill 01:06, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
It is still ongoing? If it's done, perhaps the article should reflect that. Shrumster 18:25, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Prostitution
I am more than familiar with the UCMJ the marines fall under...under no way will they ever admit to soliciting a working girl. Doesnt matter if it was in their best interest for a normal court case--this was far from normal. The Philipines are one of the largest sex tourism destinations....yet prostitution is still illegal. If they had claimed that was the case, that they were soliciting sex for cash, then the Fil courts would have really thrown them all in jail at the drop of a hat. And after their time was served, the UCMJ would have tossed them in jail again and they would have felony records back in the states not to mention the long jail time at Leavenworth.
For them, they actually got off better by getting the rape charges. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.97.74.110 ( talk) 11:58, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
it's suzette nicolas fyi Madblast 09:24, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
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Like Roe v. Wade? -- Howard the Duck 12:27, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Sec. 2. The complaint or information – The complaint or information shall be in writing, in the name of the People of the Philippines and against all persons who appear to be responsible for the offense involved.
I edited the portion about the nickname to show that it's a designated name intended to protect her identity although, as I've written above, her real name is . However, one thing I'm not clear about is if it's the media or the court that gave her the designation. Any help to clarify this would be appreciated. --- Tito Pao 00:18, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
There are several inconsistencies throughout the article. In some places the name is Nicole and in some it is Suzette. I vote to call her Nicole throughout. -- SophiaAntonette 31 July 2009
does anyone know what the verdict says about why the other accused were acquitted? I think it's relevant to the article.
BTW the inquirer link is gone Sandtiger 00:14, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
As of the news, the Philippine government released Daniel Smith without court order last year (I remembered that it was December 29, 2006 at dawn, please verify this). He is currently under custody at the US Embassy in the Philippines. Many rallies are occuring within the area just due to this case. A-yao 10:07, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
I have today edited the Application to this case section of this article, adding a couple of cites of articles from the list of collected news articles. The single sentence following my second cite, "The Court of Appeals has yet to decide on the custody ruling of the trial court and on the appeal of the Subic rape case.", has been overtaken by events and is now incorrect and outdated; that needs to be corrected and the corrected info supported by a cite. Further info probably needs to be added as it develops, supported by appropriate cites. I don't plan on appointing myself maintainer of this article, but I'll keep looking at it from time to time. -- Boracay Bill 06:24, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Hope it's now quite updated. The article, though, still needs to be expanded, maintained and completed. -- Weekeejames 11:50, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
This article seems to have some kind of agenda behind it. For example, the commentary on society and rape doesn't make sense for an encyclopedic entry. The intro line "it all started when..." is also unprofessional and too informal. The bias needs to be toned down a bit in other areas as well and the sources need to be more well rounded in my opinion. Swatpig 09:42, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Drawn to look at this article once again by a recent change, I happened to glance at parts unrelated to that change, and was struck by
[...] Nicole also alleged that Smith's other companions, Lance Corporals Keith Silkwood and Dominic Duplantis and Staff Sergeant Chad Carpentier, were inside the van cheering Smith on as the incident happened. The American servicemen denied the charges. [...]
Perhaps I am nitpicking here, but I read this as saying that Smith's companions denied that they were in the van cheering Smith on. AFAIK, this is not the case. The charges placed against Smith's companions are unclear from the article; my understanding is that all four were charged with having committed the crime of rape, and that all four denied that they had committed that crime. I have deleted the sentence "The American servicemen denied the charges.". It would probably be better to replace this deleted sentence with clarification of precisely what charges were denied, by whom, and on what grounds. -- Boracay Bill 01:06, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
It is still ongoing? If it's done, perhaps the article should reflect that. Shrumster 18:25, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Prostitution
I am more than familiar with the UCMJ the marines fall under...under no way will they ever admit to soliciting a working girl. Doesnt matter if it was in their best interest for a normal court case--this was far from normal. The Philipines are one of the largest sex tourism destinations....yet prostitution is still illegal. If they had claimed that was the case, that they were soliciting sex for cash, then the Fil courts would have really thrown them all in jail at the drop of a hat. And after their time was served, the UCMJ would have tossed them in jail again and they would have felony records back in the states not to mention the long jail time at Leavenworth.
For them, they actually got off better by getting the rape charges. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.97.74.110 ( talk) 11:58, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
it's suzette nicolas fyi Madblast 09:24, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
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