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New to editing in Wikipedia. I have noticed that this article is poor on prognosis after SAH. This has been raised before ( /info/en/?search=Talk:Subarachnoid_hemorrhage/Archive_1#van_Gijn_et_al). In the last month there have been two new high profile articles which need coverage.
First there is now a SAH-specific outcome tool which allows an accurate score and covers all symptoms that can be experienced after SAH (published in Brain). Second, there is an online calculator which allows for an estimate of how SAH survivors will do, based on an unprecedented large global dataset -just under 11,000 patients (published in the British Medical Journal). In both cases the tools can be self-administered by SAH survivors and/or next-of-kin, or they can be used by their clinicians. These two developments are step changes in the field of SAH (unusually for SAH published in high impact journals) and the articles are free access. Their links below. They should be included as short sentences. I draft some text below, but please revise as needed.
The SAHOT (SAH Outcome Tool), developed with SAH survivors, covers all symptoms that can be experienced after SAH and delivers a score reflecting the impact of SAH on the individual (1). An online calculator is available which predicts outcome after SAH (2,3).
1. https://doi.org/10.1093/brain/awy003 2. https://doi.org/10.1136/bmj.j5745 3. http://sahitscore.com/
209.93.220.76 ( talk) 08:50, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
For this disease, a section on complications is warranted. For example, delayed cerebral ischemia occurs in over a quarter of the patients. It deserves more than a mention in the infobox with a link to cerebral ischemia, especially since ischemia may not even be the mechanism behind the tissue damage of dci. PizzaMan ♨♨♨ 23:03, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
User:Dredgarsantos How does this ref support this text
That vasospasm can be confirmed with "Electrocorticography to see Spreading Depolarizations. [1] "
Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 07:13, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
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@ Zefr: I see you removed the information I added regarding pseudosubarachnoid hemorrhages for what appear to be sourcing reasons. The pyramid appears to prefer clinical practice guidelines. Are the following sources suitable to use such that I may add the information back? The first three seem to my eye to be "clinical practice guidelines", and I am not sure where the fourth falls.
Ikjbagl ( talk) 18:48, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
NICE is working on a guideline. [1] JFW | T@lk 13:30, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
Moustafa A. Mansour this content belongs at pulmonary edema, and if rewritten, would be added at Pulmonary edema#Management, but the primary sources and case reports would need to be removed, and content based on the secondary reviews:
See WP:WIAFA, WP:FAOWN (please discuss edits to a featured article), WP:MEDRS (the content added was almost entirely cited to primary sources and case reports), WP:MEDDATE (these are very old sources) and WP:NOT (advice or textbook). SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 15:04, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
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New to editing in Wikipedia. I have noticed that this article is poor on prognosis after SAH. This has been raised before ( /info/en/?search=Talk:Subarachnoid_hemorrhage/Archive_1#van_Gijn_et_al). In the last month there have been two new high profile articles which need coverage.
First there is now a SAH-specific outcome tool which allows an accurate score and covers all symptoms that can be experienced after SAH (published in Brain). Second, there is an online calculator which allows for an estimate of how SAH survivors will do, based on an unprecedented large global dataset -just under 11,000 patients (published in the British Medical Journal). In both cases the tools can be self-administered by SAH survivors and/or next-of-kin, or they can be used by their clinicians. These two developments are step changes in the field of SAH (unusually for SAH published in high impact journals) and the articles are free access. Their links below. They should be included as short sentences. I draft some text below, but please revise as needed.
The SAHOT (SAH Outcome Tool), developed with SAH survivors, covers all symptoms that can be experienced after SAH and delivers a score reflecting the impact of SAH on the individual (1). An online calculator is available which predicts outcome after SAH (2,3).
1. https://doi.org/10.1093/brain/awy003 2. https://doi.org/10.1136/bmj.j5745 3. http://sahitscore.com/
209.93.220.76 ( talk) 08:50, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
For this disease, a section on complications is warranted. For example, delayed cerebral ischemia occurs in over a quarter of the patients. It deserves more than a mention in the infobox with a link to cerebral ischemia, especially since ischemia may not even be the mechanism behind the tissue damage of dci. PizzaMan ♨♨♨ 23:03, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
User:Dredgarsantos How does this ref support this text
That vasospasm can be confirmed with "Electrocorticography to see Spreading Depolarizations. [1] "
Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 07:13, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
References
@ Zefr: I see you removed the information I added regarding pseudosubarachnoid hemorrhages for what appear to be sourcing reasons. The pyramid appears to prefer clinical practice guidelines. Are the following sources suitable to use such that I may add the information back? The first three seem to my eye to be "clinical practice guidelines", and I am not sure where the fourth falls.
Ikjbagl ( talk) 18:48, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
NICE is working on a guideline. [1] JFW | T@lk 13:30, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
Moustafa A. Mansour this content belongs at pulmonary edema, and if rewritten, would be added at Pulmonary edema#Management, but the primary sources and case reports would need to be removed, and content based on the secondary reviews:
See WP:WIAFA, WP:FAOWN (please discuss edits to a featured article), WP:MEDRS (the content added was almost entirely cited to primary sources and case reports), WP:MEDDATE (these are very old sources) and WP:NOT (advice or textbook). SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 15:04, 11 September 2022 (UTC)