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I'm going to be the bad person here and ask if this is really a notable subject. I mean, I like Percy Jackson as much as anyone else, but it's a made-up type of metal in one book series - and I might add, not even a super notable book series at that (not classic or anything). Just wondering if anyone else agrees.... PrincessofLlyr ( talk) 03:13, 6 February 2010 (UTC) reply

Yup, but I was debating on how to get about saying it. We could make a list of fictional PJ things, such as his sword, etc. I dunno... Airplaneman ^talk 06:52, 6 February 2010 (UTC) reply

Honestly, I would say that it is completely unnecessary to go into any more detail than a basic mention, for instance, a brief explanation on Nico's page. It would probably count as fancruft if we did any more. The same goes for celestial bronze, etc. PrincessofLlyr ( talk) 16:10, 6 February 2010 (UTC) reply

I'm not sure we should smash it in with celestial bronze. I understand your point, however. I'll add some refs and look for more info in the books.-- iBen ^talk/ _contribs 18:30, 6 February 2010 (UTC) reply

Um, there already is a section about Stygian iron in the celestial bronze page and it's almost identical to this article. I'm not going to argue about the references, I'm talking about notability. I honestly don't think Stygian iron is notable enough to deserve its own article. PrincessofLlyr ( talk) 18:57, 6 February 2010 (UTC) reply

Y I see your point, however, what says celestial bronze is notable?-- iBen ^talk/ _contribs 18:59, 6 February 2010 (UTC) reply

I certainly don't, but I thought I would leave that alone until we got this settled. My preference would be to merge both of those into the appropriate articles and turn their separate articles into redirects. PrincessofLlyr ( talk) 19:01, 6 February 2010 (UTC) reply

Hi, sometimes it is necessary some time for giving chance to others to understand your point or to meet your ideas halfway. What about if all participants of this debate take a day or so to:

• Allow others to think about your points
• Think about why others have a different opinion and try to understand the essence of it
• Think how to make your point more clear and understandable
• Think how can be found a middle way
  
  Heated up debates rarely have the resolution you expect and may carry instead to protected pages, incident notifications, requests for arbitration, blocks and other undesired consequences, Take Time to Think!

-- iBen ^talk/ _contribs 18:43, 6 February 2010 (UTC) reply

Er.. isn't that what we've been trying to do? Please take a look at WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. I like the idea of merging the two, as they alone have no potential of reaching GA status. There's just not enough info. Airplaneman ^talk 19:17, 6 February 2010 (UTC) reply

Well, they are essentially merged already. Take a look at Celestial bronze. So, what about a basic explanation when they show up in a plot summary and a more in-depth explanation on say, Nico's page for Stygian Iron and Percy's page for celestial bronze. Or the main PJ and the Olympians page, but that one is already a bit long....just ideas. PrincessofLlyr ( talk) 19:28, 6 February 2010 (UTC) reply

I like the idea of mentioning them on the character pages. Maybe we should just describe the fictional metals every time they are mentioned? Just some more ideas. Airplaneman ^talk 19:34, 6 February 2010 (UTC) reply

Sure, that sounds good. I mean, explain the first time its mentioned or another mention far away. Like the way you do a link. I think that would work, especially if we redirected these articles to an in-depth explanation on the character pages. That way anyone searching for them would be able to find it easily. (I'm an inclusionist at heart!) PrincessofLlyr ( talk) 19:48, 6 February 2010 (UTC) reply

Y Done! PrincessofLlyr ( talk) 22:24, 7 February 2010 (UTC) reply