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This entry needed a LOT of cleaning up. First, I removed the "Exhibition" lists, as they are outside of the WP format for artists. For example none of the WP entries for the far more famous YBA artists (Damien Hirst, Tracy Emin, Rachel Whiteread, etc.) have exhibition lists (especially not for participation in group shows at minor galleries, such as Semple included here). Next, I removed the paragraphs that could effectively be considered "Stuart Semple speaks his mind", which read more like artist's statements. To wit: "'I used to paint alone when I had a tiny studio middle of nowhere. It had mice and was freezing. Now I have assistants who help me paint, because I'm doing massive, massive stuff, right now. It's not the same...'" Semple's opinions are non-notable. There was also some very sloppy filler, such as "Eric Bryant debated Stuart Semple and contemporary Pop Art in a seminal ARTnews feature 50 years after Richard Hamilton had defined the movement." The reference link leads to no such "debate", it is merely a scan of an article from ARTnews Magazine, in which just five sentences are devoted to Semple. The former entry went on to say "Semple's relationship with current culture, politics and imagery has put him at the forefront of the next generation of debate..." --again, this is pure puffery; the reference cited says no such thing. In general, I believe that this WP entry was created by Semple himself (note that the original entry was by an anonymous IP address in London, and that creator only contributed to one other WP entry, on the MOMART fire, and another early contributor was WP user "Audioboy1980", a transparent pseudonym for Semple who used to call himself "Nancyboy" and was born in 1980). WP does not exist to act as an adjunct to an artist's portfolio. Semple is a very minor artist, and I suggest he doesn't meet the WP Living Persons Notability criteria, but if he is going to have an entry, it should be far less subjective and far leaner. Bricology ( talk) 21:59, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Anonymous user 212.84.121.253 has been persistent in his reverts without signing his changes or commenting on them. I am going to re-revert the entry and if he reverts it again, I'm going to ask for the entry to be locked. At this point, it's veering into vandalism. Bricology ( talk) 19:13, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I agree with some of the housecleaning points in that the entry needs to be properly researched and to adhere to WP guidelines. Your nomination for deletion and editing of the entry however does not include a mention of his well documented 10 year career and contributions to the contemporary art landscape. Semple has had 9 solo shows in 8 years, as well as art fairs and Biennials, contributes to the Art of England Journal and the Guardian Online and sits on the Board of the Creator's Council at DACS. The paragraphs that quote from the Saachi Online interview were taken by Tyrenius (who actively contributes to art entries and had argued successfully for Semple's notability earlier). I agree that a more balanced 'leaner' entry that doesn't dwell on sensational media hype from Uri Geller's commission, and rather the achievements of a young artist's career would be 'less subjective' also. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nnevillem ( talk • contribs) 10:24, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
I've removed the resume-like list of group shows to here.-- Ethicoaestheticist ( talk) 21:44, 20 May 2008 (UTC) updated current exhibitions Nnevillem ( talk) 15:48, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
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The section on Kapoor refers to "Vantapaint", while the Wikipedia article is under the title Vantablack. The top result for a Google search for "Vantapaint" is the Vantablack article. Is it called Vantapaint in art circles? Molinari ( talk) 20:30, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
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Currently I notice that the "Conflict with Anish Kapoor" section of the article mentions his conflict with Anish Kapoor, and mentions Incredibly Kleinish Blue, his substitute for International Klein Blue (nothing to do with Anish Kapoor) as an additional side note. Later on in the article, Freetone, his substitute for Pantone, is mentioned as a subsection of "Later works". I think it would probably be better if all three of these projects (as well as the creation of TIFF Blue, not mentioned in the article) were in a single section, and that section were renamed to e.g. "Democratisation of colours", a wider goal which started with the Anish Kapoor conflict. Edderiofer ( talk) 12:24, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
My first time reading about Stuart Semple and this article is clearly far too long and detailed (as the templates hat have been there for five years say.). I'll embark on some heavy editing. Seaweed ( talk) 13:49, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
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This entry needed a LOT of cleaning up. First, I removed the "Exhibition" lists, as they are outside of the WP format for artists. For example none of the WP entries for the far more famous YBA artists (Damien Hirst, Tracy Emin, Rachel Whiteread, etc.) have exhibition lists (especially not for participation in group shows at minor galleries, such as Semple included here). Next, I removed the paragraphs that could effectively be considered "Stuart Semple speaks his mind", which read more like artist's statements. To wit: "'I used to paint alone when I had a tiny studio middle of nowhere. It had mice and was freezing. Now I have assistants who help me paint, because I'm doing massive, massive stuff, right now. It's not the same...'" Semple's opinions are non-notable. There was also some very sloppy filler, such as "Eric Bryant debated Stuart Semple and contemporary Pop Art in a seminal ARTnews feature 50 years after Richard Hamilton had defined the movement." The reference link leads to no such "debate", it is merely a scan of an article from ARTnews Magazine, in which just five sentences are devoted to Semple. The former entry went on to say "Semple's relationship with current culture, politics and imagery has put him at the forefront of the next generation of debate..." --again, this is pure puffery; the reference cited says no such thing. In general, I believe that this WP entry was created by Semple himself (note that the original entry was by an anonymous IP address in London, and that creator only contributed to one other WP entry, on the MOMART fire, and another early contributor was WP user "Audioboy1980", a transparent pseudonym for Semple who used to call himself "Nancyboy" and was born in 1980). WP does not exist to act as an adjunct to an artist's portfolio. Semple is a very minor artist, and I suggest he doesn't meet the WP Living Persons Notability criteria, but if he is going to have an entry, it should be far less subjective and far leaner. Bricology ( talk) 21:59, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Anonymous user 212.84.121.253 has been persistent in his reverts without signing his changes or commenting on them. I am going to re-revert the entry and if he reverts it again, I'm going to ask for the entry to be locked. At this point, it's veering into vandalism. Bricology ( talk) 19:13, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I agree with some of the housecleaning points in that the entry needs to be properly researched and to adhere to WP guidelines. Your nomination for deletion and editing of the entry however does not include a mention of his well documented 10 year career and contributions to the contemporary art landscape. Semple has had 9 solo shows in 8 years, as well as art fairs and Biennials, contributes to the Art of England Journal and the Guardian Online and sits on the Board of the Creator's Council at DACS. The paragraphs that quote from the Saachi Online interview were taken by Tyrenius (who actively contributes to art entries and had argued successfully for Semple's notability earlier). I agree that a more balanced 'leaner' entry that doesn't dwell on sensational media hype from Uri Geller's commission, and rather the achievements of a young artist's career would be 'less subjective' also. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nnevillem ( talk • contribs) 10:24, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
I've removed the resume-like list of group shows to here.-- Ethicoaestheticist ( talk) 21:44, 20 May 2008 (UTC) updated current exhibitions Nnevillem ( talk) 15:48, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
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The section on Kapoor refers to "Vantapaint", while the Wikipedia article is under the title Vantablack. The top result for a Google search for "Vantapaint" is the Vantablack article. Is it called Vantapaint in art circles? Molinari ( talk) 20:30, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
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Currently I notice that the "Conflict with Anish Kapoor" section of the article mentions his conflict with Anish Kapoor, and mentions Incredibly Kleinish Blue, his substitute for International Klein Blue (nothing to do with Anish Kapoor) as an additional side note. Later on in the article, Freetone, his substitute for Pantone, is mentioned as a subsection of "Later works". I think it would probably be better if all three of these projects (as well as the creation of TIFF Blue, not mentioned in the article) were in a single section, and that section were renamed to e.g. "Democratisation of colours", a wider goal which started with the Anish Kapoor conflict. Edderiofer ( talk) 12:24, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
My first time reading about Stuart Semple and this article is clearly far too long and detailed (as the templates hat have been there for five years say.). I'll embark on some heavy editing. Seaweed ( talk) 13:49, 4 December 2023 (UTC)