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This article was nominated for merging with Strength athletics on July 16, 2022. The result of the discussion was Not merged — no consensus. |
I have a question. In the list of famous strongmen, how come Ivan Poddubniy, the famous Russian wrestler and strongman in the beginning of 20th Century, who worked out with a barbell that weighted 125 kg, and could stop a horse-drawn wagon by grabbing onto the back wheel, and was seen wrestling bulls to the ground by their horns, is not included? -- SergeiXXX 01:25, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
i think the use of the word grassroots is a bit weird, i would think such evenements would rather be organised by horeca then politics. when it's meant to mean locally, why not just use local, or perhaps use community, when it is meant to mean that, or regionally if what is meant is the subnational aspect. i think a serious term that tells a lot about more ideal or political movements should not be used for random party's or evenements, since some grassroots developments (most actually) are still part of a serious debate. could be i am oversensitive here, or that the initial writers of this article are from a region where such a use of the word is common, for me personally i have never seen it used worse, altho perhaps one or two times in a somewhat dubious context. 24.132.171.225 ( talk) 10:42, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
Strength athlete is a duplicate stub of this article. Suggesting:
10:42, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
Under the Events section, the first sentence appears to be very subjective and thus deviates from WP:NPOV. Could someone please correct this? Thanks, Rubik's Maniac ( talk) 05:43, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
I removed a link to http://www.worldstrongmanfederation.org/ as the site does not exist. Last time I did that a self appointed "God", (his user name was "Dia") took me to task, for removing a link,(even though it didn't exist). So here is a heads up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kurtdriver ( talk • contribs) 03:38, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: All moved ( non-admin closure) Spekkios ( talk) 03:05, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
– The athlete is primary topic by longterm significance, and the political usage, which is based on the athletic usage, can be naturally disambiguated. Therefore, this is not a WP:NOPRIMARY situation. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 16:26, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
@ Nir007H Thought it'd be good to discuss the removal of the "Best Win/ Accolade" column from the international accolades table as I just dont think it really makes sense to be there. I think its way too subjective as to what is someone's "best win" some might think that it's winning an Arnold's some might thinks it's winning World's Strongest Man and I dont think anyone would really see Pudz'/Ver Magnusson's/Sigmarsson's best accolade as being in the hall of fame over their WSM wins.
I'm not even quite sure what events "Multiple times world champion" is including, I'm assuming it's both Arnolds and WSM but thats again subjective to say someone who wins the arnolds is a world champion and just overall confusing honestly. Hopefully you can kinda see what I'm getting at. Brandon Downes ( talk) 04:03, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
As the discussion above has seemingly stagnated I have gone ahead and removed the "Best Win/Accolade" column due to it being based on subjective opinion and not in fact. The table is for international accolades, there is no official governing body for strongman and no consensus on what makes an event win better than any other event win and also the decision to chose 3 events without consensus to garner the title of world champion is also a personal opinion and not based in any official consensus or fact. Brandon Downes ( talk) 14:26, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
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This article was nominated for merging with Strength athletics on July 16, 2022. The result of the discussion was Not merged — no consensus. |
I have a question. In the list of famous strongmen, how come Ivan Poddubniy, the famous Russian wrestler and strongman in the beginning of 20th Century, who worked out with a barbell that weighted 125 kg, and could stop a horse-drawn wagon by grabbing onto the back wheel, and was seen wrestling bulls to the ground by their horns, is not included? -- SergeiXXX 01:25, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
i think the use of the word grassroots is a bit weird, i would think such evenements would rather be organised by horeca then politics. when it's meant to mean locally, why not just use local, or perhaps use community, when it is meant to mean that, or regionally if what is meant is the subnational aspect. i think a serious term that tells a lot about more ideal or political movements should not be used for random party's or evenements, since some grassroots developments (most actually) are still part of a serious debate. could be i am oversensitive here, or that the initial writers of this article are from a region where such a use of the word is common, for me personally i have never seen it used worse, altho perhaps one or two times in a somewhat dubious context. 24.132.171.225 ( talk) 10:42, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
Strength athlete is a duplicate stub of this article. Suggesting:
10:42, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
Under the Events section, the first sentence appears to be very subjective and thus deviates from WP:NPOV. Could someone please correct this? Thanks, Rubik's Maniac ( talk) 05:43, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
I removed a link to http://www.worldstrongmanfederation.org/ as the site does not exist. Last time I did that a self appointed "God", (his user name was "Dia") took me to task, for removing a link,(even though it didn't exist). So here is a heads up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kurtdriver ( talk • contribs) 03:38, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: All moved ( non-admin closure) Spekkios ( talk) 03:05, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
– The athlete is primary topic by longterm significance, and the political usage, which is based on the athletic usage, can be naturally disambiguated. Therefore, this is not a WP:NOPRIMARY situation. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 16:26, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
@ Nir007H Thought it'd be good to discuss the removal of the "Best Win/ Accolade" column from the international accolades table as I just dont think it really makes sense to be there. I think its way too subjective as to what is someone's "best win" some might think that it's winning an Arnold's some might thinks it's winning World's Strongest Man and I dont think anyone would really see Pudz'/Ver Magnusson's/Sigmarsson's best accolade as being in the hall of fame over their WSM wins.
I'm not even quite sure what events "Multiple times world champion" is including, I'm assuming it's both Arnolds and WSM but thats again subjective to say someone who wins the arnolds is a world champion and just overall confusing honestly. Hopefully you can kinda see what I'm getting at. Brandon Downes ( talk) 04:03, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
As the discussion above has seemingly stagnated I have gone ahead and removed the "Best Win/Accolade" column due to it being based on subjective opinion and not in fact. The table is for international accolades, there is no official governing body for strongman and no consensus on what makes an event win better than any other event win and also the decision to chose 3 events without consensus to garner the title of world champion is also a personal opinion and not based in any official consensus or fact. Brandon Downes ( talk) 14:26, 10 September 2023 (UTC)