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I'm sorry but Buses aren't banned in Prague's historical center. They just aren't needed becaus of Tramways and Subways serving the city with interchange stations for the bus feeders lines. It is a deep misunderstanding of how European Citys do function. 89.16.151.85 ( talk) 03:24, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
Turn of the century bicycles had much larger tires than today's do, roughly the size of those on modern mountain bikes (minus the knobs). This was to absorb the bumps of rougher (and in some cases, non-existent) road surfaces. I'd imagine it made trolly tracks less of a hassle, though still probably something to be wary of. -- Cosmo the third 15:23, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Toronto still has streetcars, and the tracks are a well-known hazard to cyclists - from time to time, I've had bruises to prove this. The best way of dealing with them is to cross at as much of a right angle as possible. Streetcars and bikes can co-exist well enough.
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Gigantichound
17:37, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure how much bikes were used for transporation during the streetcar suburb era. From my understanding they were mostly recreational - ridden to the emerging parks of the era, which of course didn't have streetcar tracks. -- W.marsh 21:58, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
The development of communities like Jamaica Plain, Boston Massachusetts prove the exception to many of the "rules" stated in this article. There is certainly no grid layout to the roads - the community goes back to the 1630s. The article needs some tuning up to account for this classic "streetcar suburb". MarkinBoston 04:23, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
For some reason the only part of this article people seem to care about is the list of examples... and that's kind of sad because the article is good aside from that section but still needs improvement. It's the best prose summary of streetcar suburbs I've ever seen on the internet, so there's that. Anyway, I was just annoyed with the edit summary someone used: "these have been tagged for a year -- please do not add entries back until they have been sourced, otherwise a clear violation of WP:V" It's not a clear violation of WP:V, WP:V only requires inline sources for claims that are "challenged or likely to be challenged" - I've observed no one questioning that these places really are streetcar suburbs, so it seems like we're requiring sources just to make people dance, sources apparently wouldn't actually improve the accuracy of the article.
That said, I'd rather have no section than the current one, which just gives one city, and is hopelessly ugly doing to have a citation after every sentence, it makes it utterly unreadable.
So if you guys aren't going to work on the non-list part of the article, can we at least discuss rather than revert war? -- Rividian ( talk) 23:03, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for this article. The reason that people like these suburbs is that the streetcars generated suburbs that cannot be duplicated by the New Urban architecture movement planners or found elsewhere. Suburbs that yielded close neighbors and close friendships. Front yards were often not simply filled with plants, but with lawn games to spend time with neighbors building friendships.
Some may damn the above as a glittering generality, but those who do have not actually lived in a streetcar neighborhood, and so do not know what it does for people. All that they know are the strip malls and parking lot wastelands generated by the automobile and the lonliness and drug abuse that follow. Rumjal rumjal 12:42, 17 January 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rumjal ( talk • contribs)
Mpls. is not sited in this article. 2601:445:8480:BBE0:2CC5:EE73:F2AB:14C9 ( talk) 00:58, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
It seems strange that San Francisco is not on the Examples list. Just about every neighborhood in San Francisco was originally a streetcar suburb. See https://sfstreetcars.co/ -- Westwind273 ( talk) 19:45, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
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I'm sorry but Buses aren't banned in Prague's historical center. They just aren't needed becaus of Tramways and Subways serving the city with interchange stations for the bus feeders lines. It is a deep misunderstanding of how European Citys do function. 89.16.151.85 ( talk) 03:24, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
Turn of the century bicycles had much larger tires than today's do, roughly the size of those on modern mountain bikes (minus the knobs). This was to absorb the bumps of rougher (and in some cases, non-existent) road surfaces. I'd imagine it made trolly tracks less of a hassle, though still probably something to be wary of. -- Cosmo the third 15:23, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Toronto still has streetcars, and the tracks are a well-known hazard to cyclists - from time to time, I've had bruises to prove this. The best way of dealing with them is to cross at as much of a right angle as possible. Streetcars and bikes can co-exist well enough.
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Gigantichound
17:37, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure how much bikes were used for transporation during the streetcar suburb era. From my understanding they were mostly recreational - ridden to the emerging parks of the era, which of course didn't have streetcar tracks. -- W.marsh 21:58, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
The development of communities like Jamaica Plain, Boston Massachusetts prove the exception to many of the "rules" stated in this article. There is certainly no grid layout to the roads - the community goes back to the 1630s. The article needs some tuning up to account for this classic "streetcar suburb". MarkinBoston 04:23, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
For some reason the only part of this article people seem to care about is the list of examples... and that's kind of sad because the article is good aside from that section but still needs improvement. It's the best prose summary of streetcar suburbs I've ever seen on the internet, so there's that. Anyway, I was just annoyed with the edit summary someone used: "these have been tagged for a year -- please do not add entries back until they have been sourced, otherwise a clear violation of WP:V" It's not a clear violation of WP:V, WP:V only requires inline sources for claims that are "challenged or likely to be challenged" - I've observed no one questioning that these places really are streetcar suburbs, so it seems like we're requiring sources just to make people dance, sources apparently wouldn't actually improve the accuracy of the article.
That said, I'd rather have no section than the current one, which just gives one city, and is hopelessly ugly doing to have a citation after every sentence, it makes it utterly unreadable.
So if you guys aren't going to work on the non-list part of the article, can we at least discuss rather than revert war? -- Rividian ( talk) 23:03, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for this article. The reason that people like these suburbs is that the streetcars generated suburbs that cannot be duplicated by the New Urban architecture movement planners or found elsewhere. Suburbs that yielded close neighbors and close friendships. Front yards were often not simply filled with plants, but with lawn games to spend time with neighbors building friendships.
Some may damn the above as a glittering generality, but those who do have not actually lived in a streetcar neighborhood, and so do not know what it does for people. All that they know are the strip malls and parking lot wastelands generated by the automobile and the lonliness and drug abuse that follow. Rumjal rumjal 12:42, 17 January 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rumjal ( talk • contribs)
Mpls. is not sited in this article. 2601:445:8480:BBE0:2CC5:EE73:F2AB:14C9 ( talk) 00:58, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
It seems strange that San Francisco is not on the Examples list. Just about every neighborhood in San Francisco was originally a streetcar suburb. See https://sfstreetcars.co/ -- Westwind273 ( talk) 19:45, 15 May 2023 (UTC)