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This is a real class where people edit articles?? Slowpoke1 ( talk) 13:27, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
This really needs to be looked at. I've added tags and I hope I have time to get on it soon. ƒingersonRoids 01:09, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
This IP is from Canada and made an edit which I've reverted because it looks a lot like an attempt to change this article into propaganda against street racing, hopefully just some idiot vandal though. Barfnz ( talk) 10:59, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Which one did you revert? Slowpoke1 ( talk) 13:30, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
Can anyone offer a reason not to delete everything related to Evo Street Racers that was recently added to this article? The claims that they are an "authority" and that they are "official" sound like unsupported self-promotion to me. As far as I can tell http://www.evostreetracers.com/ is a commercial web site (with no obvious business model but that's no surprise) hosting blogs, community forums and social networking. None of which qualifies it as a reliable source by WP standards.-- Dbratland ( talk) 20:09, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
ELandry1979 (
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20:31, 24 September 2009 (UTC)I am new too Wikipedia so I apologize if I am not using the correct guidelines in responding.
I have done extensive research on the topic of illegal street racing for a report that I am writing at my university. As part of the project we must integrate Wikipedia into the content. Should content be missing on the topic we are to add it to Wikipedia and explain how and why we did it in our report in an effort to increase the reporting standards of the internet.
When researching the topic I came across a website entitled Evo Street Racers. I have also spoken with a representative from their organization. They are not commercial site, rather a none-profit organization composed of volunteers. My reserach reflects that they have put together the largest database of Illegal Street racing information and active programs to reduce it. Should you disagree I welcome you to visit their website and compare it to anyone else in the world. I was amazed that Wiki did not reflect information pertaining to their efforts especially since they have been around since 2003.
FYI: Their model in conducting business and reducing the problem is called the Evolution Solution.
Perhaps you can help me with my report by ensuring that I am writing within the guidelines of Wiki.most people have a honda for facing.
Thanks!
Eric
-- ELandry1979 ( talk)
No book, major magazine, or newspaper is ever going to cite someone as an authority on street racing, as it's an illegal activity and no real authority on the source would reveal their identity to them. Slowpoke1 ( talk) 13:24, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
No book, major magazine, or newspaper is ever going to cite someone as an authority on street racing, as it's an illegal activity and no real authority on the source would reveal their identity to them. Slowpoke1 ( talk) 13:25, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
This may be controversial. Nothing here is implied to suggest breaking any laws or operating a motor vehicle in an unsafe manner. Nonetheless these activities take place every day, wherever there are drivers and roads. Street Road Racing, where not prohibited, involves three simple rules. The role of leader and pursuer may change many times during contention, there can be only one winner. • 1. The Winner is in front at the finish. • 2. The Leader chooses the course. • 3. The finish is when the Pursuer quits. Unorganized, unregulated, spontaneous, low speed contests between strangers, are probably the most common of all motor sports confrontations. From the first cross continental races, to the last person you prevented from passing. Your use of a motor vehicle in an attempt to out-gain, out-distance, prevent another vehicle from passing or to arrive someplace first, constitutes a Street Race. You cannot ignore the fact that people bet their lives on winning every day. Victory in all of these cases is covered by these essential rules.
-oo0(GoldTrader)0oo- ( talk) 19 January 2005 (UTC)
Part of it is from the driving manuel for the State of California. Movies like American Graffiti, and Two lane blacktop, showed spontaneous racing. You cannot deny that spontaneous racing takes place every day. What do we call it when you use of a motor vehicle in an attempt to out-gain, out-distance, prevent another vehicle from passing you, or to arrive someplace first. How can we have a post about Unorganized, unregulated racing. Then go on to just talk about sanctioned regulated racing only.
-oo0(GoldTrader)0oo- ( talk) 03:00, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
"You cannot deny..." Is not the same as verifiability. There is an infinite amount of information in the universe that "cannot be denied" but that in of itself doesn't make it verifiable. Wikipedia exists to document a small subset of the universe's information: the verifiable part. That's why original research is banned. There are things in this world you have to learn someplace other than Wikipedia because of the verifiability policy, but what's so bad about that? It makes the encyclopedia possible, and nobody ever promised that Wikipedia had all the answers on all things. -- Dennis Bratland ( talk) 03:08, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
Street Road Racing, where not prohibited, involves three simple rules. The role of leader and pursuer may change many times during contention, there can be only one winner. 1. The Winner is in front at the finish. 2. The Leader chooses the course. 3. The finish is when the Pursuer quits.? Dr.K. λogos πraxis 04:08, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
Spontaneous contests between strangers usually take place on paved roads. The role of leader and pursuer may change many times during contention, but there can be only one winner at the finish. The challenger follows the leader and the finish is when the chaser quits pursuit. Unorganized, unregulated, spontaneous, low speed contests between strangers, are the most common of all motor sports confrontations. From the first cross continental races, to the last person you prevented from passing. Any use of a motor vehicle in an attempt to out-gain, out-distance, prevent another vehicle from passing, or to arrive someplace first, or to test the physical stamina or endurance of drivers over long-distance driving routes is a race. A race may be prearranged or may occur through a competitive response to conduct on the part of one or more drivers, which, under the totality of the circumstances, can reasonably be interpreted as a challenge to race. [31] [32] [33] [34] [35] [36] [37] [38]
I'd like to give this a try.
-oo0(GoldTrader)0oo- ( talk) 05:26, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
What part of the article is this discussion about? Slowpoke1 ( talk) 12:35, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
This Highway is also known for its nickname being "the Highway of Death" coming from the fact the surrounding are only swamp, alligators, snakes, and also because it is not a place easy of access for fire-rescue units, ambulances or police.
The surroundings are most certainly *not* only swaps, alligators, and snakes, and this is certainly not a "fact" as claimed in the article. The Florida Everglades is of course a diverse ecosystem consisting of flora and fauna not exclusively of the "evil" reptilian variety. If the original editor claims this as "fact", then the editor needs to provide appropriate citations or remove this statement.
AFAIK, nobody involved in racing has died along US-27 as the result of snakes, alligators, or any other life form besides human beings and their cars.
Also, if US-27 is cited as "mainly" used by "18 wheelers", then this needs a citation. US-27 is mainly used by passenger vehicles, but definitely has a high concentration of commercial vehicles as compared to other South Florida transit routes.
This paragraph is ignorant and grossly violates WP standards in regards to NPOV and original research. This is post-Erwin Animal Planet anti-reptile hysteria and is inappropriate for an encyclopedia article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.203.61.179 ( talk) 07:50, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
WP:IMAGE RELEVANCE gives copious reasons why a cartoon of a fake street sign made up by a Wikipedia editor is inappropriate. Images are meant to convey information and illustrate things that exist. Not make visual jokes with no reference in the real world. The caption about "ready, set, go" is not relevant to the image, and not mentioned in the article. The assertion that races are started this way is unsourced, and in any case a phony street sign is not the way to illustrate it. Given the lack of useful or meaningful information contained in the image, it offers no benefits to offset the risk that a reader might interpret it as being real. -- Dennis Bratland ( talk) 19:30, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
This certainly needs a citation. It seems unlikely (given the long history of rally racing in Europe) that anyone can point to the origins of unsanctioned racing on public roads with such certainty. In lieu of a substantiation for this claim I think an edit is necessary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PatrickGillin ( talk • contribs) 22:37, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
No one thinks of rally racing as street racing. No one. Slowpoke1 ( talk) 13:19, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
This entire article is poorly written and very un-encyclopedic. I changed some of it, but I don’t have the time to fix those whole article FearThyMoose ( talk) 03:15, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
The entire block of text has no citations, with the single one referenced leading to a dead URL. Half of the text relies on interpretations from an anime, and the other half refers to a mystery video that has no corresponding link. - Anonymous 08:39, 29 May 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.125.88.151 ( talk)
Aren't the police gonna catch them 116.74.218.131 ( talk) 15:12, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
In the new age of street racing most races are established on a radio, you would set a time and place and race. not only cars are being raced bikes, cars, and anything really with a motor. My advice would be updating the article to make it more relatable to the new age street racers. MacS1975 ( talk) 20:47, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
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Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 10:18, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
This is a real class where people edit articles?? Slowpoke1 ( talk) 13:27, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
This really needs to be looked at. I've added tags and I hope I have time to get on it soon. ƒingersonRoids 01:09, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
This IP is from Canada and made an edit which I've reverted because it looks a lot like an attempt to change this article into propaganda against street racing, hopefully just some idiot vandal though. Barfnz ( talk) 10:59, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Which one did you revert? Slowpoke1 ( talk) 13:30, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
Can anyone offer a reason not to delete everything related to Evo Street Racers that was recently added to this article? The claims that they are an "authority" and that they are "official" sound like unsupported self-promotion to me. As far as I can tell http://www.evostreetracers.com/ is a commercial web site (with no obvious business model but that's no surprise) hosting blogs, community forums and social networking. None of which qualifies it as a reliable source by WP standards.-- Dbratland ( talk) 20:09, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
ELandry1979 (
talk)
20:31, 24 September 2009 (UTC)I am new too Wikipedia so I apologize if I am not using the correct guidelines in responding.
I have done extensive research on the topic of illegal street racing for a report that I am writing at my university. As part of the project we must integrate Wikipedia into the content. Should content be missing on the topic we are to add it to Wikipedia and explain how and why we did it in our report in an effort to increase the reporting standards of the internet.
When researching the topic I came across a website entitled Evo Street Racers. I have also spoken with a representative from their organization. They are not commercial site, rather a none-profit organization composed of volunteers. My reserach reflects that they have put together the largest database of Illegal Street racing information and active programs to reduce it. Should you disagree I welcome you to visit their website and compare it to anyone else in the world. I was amazed that Wiki did not reflect information pertaining to their efforts especially since they have been around since 2003.
FYI: Their model in conducting business and reducing the problem is called the Evolution Solution.
Perhaps you can help me with my report by ensuring that I am writing within the guidelines of Wiki.most people have a honda for facing.
Thanks!
Eric
-- ELandry1979 ( talk)
No book, major magazine, or newspaper is ever going to cite someone as an authority on street racing, as it's an illegal activity and no real authority on the source would reveal their identity to them. Slowpoke1 ( talk) 13:24, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
No book, major magazine, or newspaper is ever going to cite someone as an authority on street racing, as it's an illegal activity and no real authority on the source would reveal their identity to them. Slowpoke1 ( talk) 13:25, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
This may be controversial. Nothing here is implied to suggest breaking any laws or operating a motor vehicle in an unsafe manner. Nonetheless these activities take place every day, wherever there are drivers and roads. Street Road Racing, where not prohibited, involves three simple rules. The role of leader and pursuer may change many times during contention, there can be only one winner. • 1. The Winner is in front at the finish. • 2. The Leader chooses the course. • 3. The finish is when the Pursuer quits. Unorganized, unregulated, spontaneous, low speed contests between strangers, are probably the most common of all motor sports confrontations. From the first cross continental races, to the last person you prevented from passing. Your use of a motor vehicle in an attempt to out-gain, out-distance, prevent another vehicle from passing or to arrive someplace first, constitutes a Street Race. You cannot ignore the fact that people bet their lives on winning every day. Victory in all of these cases is covered by these essential rules.
-oo0(GoldTrader)0oo- ( talk) 19 January 2005 (UTC)
Part of it is from the driving manuel for the State of California. Movies like American Graffiti, and Two lane blacktop, showed spontaneous racing. You cannot deny that spontaneous racing takes place every day. What do we call it when you use of a motor vehicle in an attempt to out-gain, out-distance, prevent another vehicle from passing you, or to arrive someplace first. How can we have a post about Unorganized, unregulated racing. Then go on to just talk about sanctioned regulated racing only.
-oo0(GoldTrader)0oo- ( talk) 03:00, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
"You cannot deny..." Is not the same as verifiability. There is an infinite amount of information in the universe that "cannot be denied" but that in of itself doesn't make it verifiable. Wikipedia exists to document a small subset of the universe's information: the verifiable part. That's why original research is banned. There are things in this world you have to learn someplace other than Wikipedia because of the verifiability policy, but what's so bad about that? It makes the encyclopedia possible, and nobody ever promised that Wikipedia had all the answers on all things. -- Dennis Bratland ( talk) 03:08, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
Street Road Racing, where not prohibited, involves three simple rules. The role of leader and pursuer may change many times during contention, there can be only one winner. 1. The Winner is in front at the finish. 2. The Leader chooses the course. 3. The finish is when the Pursuer quits.? Dr.K. λogos πraxis 04:08, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
Spontaneous contests between strangers usually take place on paved roads. The role of leader and pursuer may change many times during contention, but there can be only one winner at the finish. The challenger follows the leader and the finish is when the chaser quits pursuit. Unorganized, unregulated, spontaneous, low speed contests between strangers, are the most common of all motor sports confrontations. From the first cross continental races, to the last person you prevented from passing. Any use of a motor vehicle in an attempt to out-gain, out-distance, prevent another vehicle from passing, or to arrive someplace first, or to test the physical stamina or endurance of drivers over long-distance driving routes is a race. A race may be prearranged or may occur through a competitive response to conduct on the part of one or more drivers, which, under the totality of the circumstances, can reasonably be interpreted as a challenge to race. [31] [32] [33] [34] [35] [36] [37] [38]
I'd like to give this a try.
-oo0(GoldTrader)0oo- ( talk) 05:26, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
What part of the article is this discussion about? Slowpoke1 ( talk) 12:35, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
This Highway is also known for its nickname being "the Highway of Death" coming from the fact the surrounding are only swamp, alligators, snakes, and also because it is not a place easy of access for fire-rescue units, ambulances or police.
The surroundings are most certainly *not* only swaps, alligators, and snakes, and this is certainly not a "fact" as claimed in the article. The Florida Everglades is of course a diverse ecosystem consisting of flora and fauna not exclusively of the "evil" reptilian variety. If the original editor claims this as "fact", then the editor needs to provide appropriate citations or remove this statement.
AFAIK, nobody involved in racing has died along US-27 as the result of snakes, alligators, or any other life form besides human beings and their cars.
Also, if US-27 is cited as "mainly" used by "18 wheelers", then this needs a citation. US-27 is mainly used by passenger vehicles, but definitely has a high concentration of commercial vehicles as compared to other South Florida transit routes.
This paragraph is ignorant and grossly violates WP standards in regards to NPOV and original research. This is post-Erwin Animal Planet anti-reptile hysteria and is inappropriate for an encyclopedia article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.203.61.179 ( talk) 07:50, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
WP:IMAGE RELEVANCE gives copious reasons why a cartoon of a fake street sign made up by a Wikipedia editor is inappropriate. Images are meant to convey information and illustrate things that exist. Not make visual jokes with no reference in the real world. The caption about "ready, set, go" is not relevant to the image, and not mentioned in the article. The assertion that races are started this way is unsourced, and in any case a phony street sign is not the way to illustrate it. Given the lack of useful or meaningful information contained in the image, it offers no benefits to offset the risk that a reader might interpret it as being real. -- Dennis Bratland ( talk) 19:30, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
This certainly needs a citation. It seems unlikely (given the long history of rally racing in Europe) that anyone can point to the origins of unsanctioned racing on public roads with such certainty. In lieu of a substantiation for this claim I think an edit is necessary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PatrickGillin ( talk • contribs) 22:37, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
No one thinks of rally racing as street racing. No one. Slowpoke1 ( talk) 13:19, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
This entire article is poorly written and very un-encyclopedic. I changed some of it, but I don’t have the time to fix those whole article FearThyMoose ( talk) 03:15, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
The entire block of text has no citations, with the single one referenced leading to a dead URL. Half of the text relies on interpretations from an anime, and the other half refers to a mystery video that has no corresponding link. - Anonymous 08:39, 29 May 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.125.88.151 ( talk)
Aren't the police gonna catch them 116.74.218.131 ( talk) 15:12, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
In the new age of street racing most races are established on a radio, you would set a time and place and race. not only cars are being raced bikes, cars, and anything really with a motor. My advice would be updating the article to make it more relatable to the new age street racers. MacS1975 ( talk) 20:47, 22 January 2023 (UTC)