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Could somebody please add the direction of the storm? Is it going from West to East or East to West, that kind of thing? — andrybak ( talk) 15:44, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
I propose to merge Early February 2020 North American storm complex – aka Winter Storm Kade – into Storm Ciara. These were both caused by the same extratropical cyclone, and the impacts in North America were far less than those in the British Isles. As a result, I believe the US & Canada impacts can be summarised as a section of this article. To see how that would work, see also Storm Gloria, which was also Winter Storm Jacob and covers both (the North American impacts of that were notably greater than Kade too). Buttons0603 ( talk) 20:02, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
Ok, so this discussion seemed to end rather prematurely. I've given the views of a trained Meteorologist on the connection between US winter storms and European ETC's (Which I think has been dismissed rather summarily). You should then tighten up the prose of the article then where Kade is described as a precursor low. Not to mention arguments regarding undue weight as regarding the winter storm in the US as being equally notable to (and this applies to both Dennis and Ciara) the European storms. I'm not aware of any effort to create articles for the winter storms in the US, which suggests they are rather un-notable. The inclusion here of information regarding the US storminess IS confusing and feels somewhat like a shoe-horning in of extraneous information. The equivalence of extratropical transition of hurricanes as areas of low pressure is as far as I'm aware meteorologically unsound, or at the very least not a widely accepted practise in the meteorological community. I would suggest that such "mergers" require a stronger backing from literature (I don't see such connections being seriously made anywhere else, aside from being casually mentioned asides). Lacunae ( talk) 22:31, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
Regarding:
That is the level is the highest at a single place does not necessarily mean that the mean level on the Swedish west coast is the highest in 34 years.
Different duration and wind direction at different times may mean it the highest in 7 years or in 80 years.
Or there could be another place where it was the highest in 127 years.
-- Mortense ( talk) 01:14, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
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Could somebody please add the direction of the storm? Is it going from West to East or East to West, that kind of thing? — andrybak ( talk) 15:44, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
I propose to merge Early February 2020 North American storm complex – aka Winter Storm Kade – into Storm Ciara. These were both caused by the same extratropical cyclone, and the impacts in North America were far less than those in the British Isles. As a result, I believe the US & Canada impacts can be summarised as a section of this article. To see how that would work, see also Storm Gloria, which was also Winter Storm Jacob and covers both (the North American impacts of that were notably greater than Kade too). Buttons0603 ( talk) 20:02, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
Ok, so this discussion seemed to end rather prematurely. I've given the views of a trained Meteorologist on the connection between US winter storms and European ETC's (Which I think has been dismissed rather summarily). You should then tighten up the prose of the article then where Kade is described as a precursor low. Not to mention arguments regarding undue weight as regarding the winter storm in the US as being equally notable to (and this applies to both Dennis and Ciara) the European storms. I'm not aware of any effort to create articles for the winter storms in the US, which suggests they are rather un-notable. The inclusion here of information regarding the US storminess IS confusing and feels somewhat like a shoe-horning in of extraneous information. The equivalence of extratropical transition of hurricanes as areas of low pressure is as far as I'm aware meteorologically unsound, or at the very least not a widely accepted practise in the meteorological community. I would suggest that such "mergers" require a stronger backing from literature (I don't see such connections being seriously made anywhere else, aside from being casually mentioned asides). Lacunae ( talk) 22:31, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
Regarding:
That is the level is the highest at a single place does not necessarily mean that the mean level on the Swedish west coast is the highest in 34 years.
Different duration and wind direction at different times may mean it the highest in 7 years or in 80 years.
Or there could be another place where it was the highest in 127 years.
-- Mortense ( talk) 01:14, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
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