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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Aoidh ( talk00:46, 8 January 2023 (UTC) reply

A Stop Cop City tree sit in the OId Atlanta Prison Farm
A Stop Cop City tree sit in the OId Atlanta Prison Farm

Created by Crowina ( talk). Self-nominated at 18:52, 12 December 2022 (UTC). reply

::Comments: Review until Prison Farm section

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: None required.

Overall:

Please address the following:

  • Can you please quote verbatim where in the source is mentioned that " the project will increase police brutality in the city"? I have reviewed the cited source and the above sounds more like a conjecture.
  • Consider replacing "The Atlanta Police Foundation (APF) and others who ..." with "proponents". The cited source does not specifically mention the APF, rather "The other thirty per cent" el.ziade ( talkallam) 11:12, 22 December 2022 (UTC) reply
  • "Two environmental organizations, the South River Forest Coalition and the South River Watershed Alliance, have filed a lawsuit against the film studio development." I can't find this passage in the cited source. The New York Times article does however corroborate this passage.
  • The article definitely leans towards a certain POV. Opposing POVs (residents pro Cop City) is represented. I believe the article represents the events faithfully, and the sources are generally accurately cited (exceptions above).
  • I invite the nominator to disclose any COI.
  • I also invite other reviewers who are informed about the events to take a look and verify if the article can be more balanced. el.ziade ( talkallam) 21:19, 22 December 2022 (UTC) reply

In response to review of user @ Elias Ziade:

  • I changed the wording of this sentence to more accurately reflect the language used by opponents of the facility in the citation source, the source
  • I replaced "The Atlanta Police Foundation (APF) and others who ..." with "proponents," as suggested.
  • I shifted citation from cited source to the New Yorker article, as suggested.
  • I think the article weights POVs similar to how they are weighted in most of the the sources. I feel I have respected Wikipedia's due weight policy, giving attention to the opposing sides of the issue in proportion to their popularity in the city, as reflected by 70% of public comment opposing to the facility in city council, see the source
  • I have no conflict of interest to disclose.
  • I invite @ Gobonobo:, who seems to also have familiarity with these events based on their Dec 16 edits of the article, to offer their review for the purposes of the DYK nomination.

Crowina ( talk) 22:13, 30 December 2022 (UTC) reply

* Thank you for taking the time to address and clarify the above. I have nothing further to add from my side. el.ziade ( talkallam) 08:54, 31 December 2022 (UTC) reply
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
The result of this discussion was no merge. MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE IS REAL EMO!( talk or whatever) 09:45, 4 February 2023 (UTC) reply

This has insufficient material and notability for its own page. –  Muboshgu ( talk) 17:20, 26 January 2023 (UTC) reply

Agreed -- FlameRetardant ( talk) 17:54, 26 January 2023 (UTC) reply
I agree. Other incidents where persons are killed by US police tend to not have their own article and instead are discussed only in the context of the incident page itself. 2603:6081:6601:7D01:192D:CA49:8F95:4051 ( talk) 17:01, 29 January 2023 (UTC) reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Atlanta city budget

It is not true that about one-third of the Atlanta city budget goes to the police. That fraction is only relevant when referenced specifically to the city's general fund, which is one of the three major funds that comprise the city's budget. While it's true that the New Yorker's article says "budget" rather than "fund," this is an error on their part. A summary of the city's 2023 budget (as proposed at the time) are available from the independent Atlanta Civic Circle organization here: https://atlantaciviccircle.org/2022/05/05/atlanta-budget-explainer/ . 67.188.1.213 ( talk) 07:56, 7 March 2023 (UTC) reply

Where does the "DTF" come from?

The lead section of the article uses the initialism describing "Defend Atlanta Forest". Shouldn't it be "DAF"? Millows ( talk) 20:00, 1 July 2023 (UTC) reply

DTF comes from Defend the Atlanta Forest or Defend the Forest. Cobblebricks ( talk) 17:13, 27 September 2023 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Aoidh ( talk00:46, 8 January 2023 (UTC) reply

A Stop Cop City tree sit in the OId Atlanta Prison Farm
A Stop Cop City tree sit in the OId Atlanta Prison Farm

Created by Crowina ( talk). Self-nominated at 18:52, 12 December 2022 (UTC). reply

::Comments: Review until Prison Farm section

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: None required.

Overall:

Please address the following:

  • Can you please quote verbatim where in the source is mentioned that " the project will increase police brutality in the city"? I have reviewed the cited source and the above sounds more like a conjecture.
  • Consider replacing "The Atlanta Police Foundation (APF) and others who ..." with "proponents". The cited source does not specifically mention the APF, rather "The other thirty per cent" el.ziade ( talkallam) 11:12, 22 December 2022 (UTC) reply
  • "Two environmental organizations, the South River Forest Coalition and the South River Watershed Alliance, have filed a lawsuit against the film studio development." I can't find this passage in the cited source. The New York Times article does however corroborate this passage.
  • The article definitely leans towards a certain POV. Opposing POVs (residents pro Cop City) is represented. I believe the article represents the events faithfully, and the sources are generally accurately cited (exceptions above).
  • I invite the nominator to disclose any COI.
  • I also invite other reviewers who are informed about the events to take a look and verify if the article can be more balanced. el.ziade ( talkallam) 21:19, 22 December 2022 (UTC) reply

In response to review of user @ Elias Ziade:

  • I changed the wording of this sentence to more accurately reflect the language used by opponents of the facility in the citation source, the source
  • I replaced "The Atlanta Police Foundation (APF) and others who ..." with "proponents," as suggested.
  • I shifted citation from cited source to the New Yorker article, as suggested.
  • I think the article weights POVs similar to how they are weighted in most of the the sources. I feel I have respected Wikipedia's due weight policy, giving attention to the opposing sides of the issue in proportion to their popularity in the city, as reflected by 70% of public comment opposing to the facility in city council, see the source
  • I have no conflict of interest to disclose.
  • I invite @ Gobonobo:, who seems to also have familiarity with these events based on their Dec 16 edits of the article, to offer their review for the purposes of the DYK nomination.

Crowina ( talk) 22:13, 30 December 2022 (UTC) reply

* Thank you for taking the time to address and clarify the above. I have nothing further to add from my side. el.ziade ( talkallam) 08:54, 31 December 2022 (UTC) reply
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
The result of this discussion was no merge. MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE IS REAL EMO!( talk or whatever) 09:45, 4 February 2023 (UTC) reply

This has insufficient material and notability for its own page. –  Muboshgu ( talk) 17:20, 26 January 2023 (UTC) reply

Agreed -- FlameRetardant ( talk) 17:54, 26 January 2023 (UTC) reply
I agree. Other incidents where persons are killed by US police tend to not have their own article and instead are discussed only in the context of the incident page itself. 2603:6081:6601:7D01:192D:CA49:8F95:4051 ( talk) 17:01, 29 January 2023 (UTC) reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Atlanta city budget

It is not true that about one-third of the Atlanta city budget goes to the police. That fraction is only relevant when referenced specifically to the city's general fund, which is one of the three major funds that comprise the city's budget. While it's true that the New Yorker's article says "budget" rather than "fund," this is an error on their part. A summary of the city's 2023 budget (as proposed at the time) are available from the independent Atlanta Civic Circle organization here: https://atlantaciviccircle.org/2022/05/05/atlanta-budget-explainer/ . 67.188.1.213 ( talk) 07:56, 7 March 2023 (UTC) reply

Where does the "DTF" come from?

The lead section of the article uses the initialism describing "Defend Atlanta Forest". Shouldn't it be "DAF"? Millows ( talk) 20:00, 1 July 2023 (UTC) reply

DTF comes from Defend the Atlanta Forest or Defend the Forest. Cobblebricks ( talk) 17:13, 27 September 2023 (UTC) reply

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