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Should this be merged with effects unit? I'm of two minds on this. Andrewa 00:46, 14 Nov 2003 (UTC)
I'd like to know how Stomp box is not redundant with Trigger pad. As well, both presently show a small wooden device that is meant to be stepped on.
Anyone who has spent any time outside of US/UK pop music knows that feet have often been used as accompaniment. John Hartford would put a microphone down by the floor to amplify the sound of his dancing around as he played. Some musicians have used a kick drum; there's at least one 3 Mustaphas 3 track where someone is rhythmically kicking a bass-drum case (correcting: actually, it was an accordion case —WD), and others have used a box, whether wood or corrugated cardboard.
Significantly, the emphasis is on plug-in devices that are presently available for sometimes exorbitant prices, rather than something that can be had at little or no cost.
With that in mind, how is a "stomp box" significantly different from a small, limited purpose cajón? As THAT aricle already exists AND is more than an unsourced stub, maybe that is where this ought be appended.
For what it's worth, stomp box has been used for at least 45 years to mean ONLY a floor-based electronic effects pedal, specifically for guitar. That NEEDS to be discussed — nobody gets to simply walk up and claim a word as though it's a trademark, and Wikipedia certainly is NOT a tool for such purpose. Lacking a credible historical source, the usage as in this article does not have primacy and therefore no authority. At best, there MUST be some attempt made to demonstrate earlier uses of the term in the context claimed. Presently, Line 6 (company) sells the M9 and M13 Stompbox Modelers.
I suspect that one or more of the cited sellers launched this "article," and a few more joined in. That would make this a pool advertisement — a mob effort, but nevertheless advertising. Most are charging $100 to $250 for what often looks a lot like the $40 box from SX — not presented here, likely (my guess) because the seller didn't choose to abuse WP.
This is a very poor article. Because it has so many proponents, I am going to mark up its flaws for them to fix.
Weeb Dingle (
talk) 14:01, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
Aside from my previous statements, I know little about the finer points of these devices, and so am inadequate to provide proper repairs, though I can easily identify specious logic. As user Lgnlint — apparently much more familiar than me with the topic — has seen fit to remove my "cluttering tags" without even pretending to be an editor by maybe fixing something, I will accept that as a go-ahead to remove unsubstantiated claims.
Weeb Dingle (
talk) 16:43, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
a simple
percussion instrument consisting of a small wooden box… except, of course, for those made from milled aluminum… or stamped steel… or cast plastic… as shown in the Gallery section. I mean, criminies.
Weeb Dingle (
talk) 15:05, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
I've tagged a bunch of names logged by fanboys in the usual Notable users list. Either the WP articles about them do not support the pants-wetting "he uses a stompbox!!" contention, or the source for that conjecture doesn't support the claim. Find better — quickly.
And anyone who simply removes these tags without fixing the problem should be aware that such action means I'll simply cut the name(s). Cool?
Weeb Dingle (
talk) 16:59, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
Example of shoddiness: turns out that
Ash Grunwald, having in the past "used a million different stompbox, kick drum and trigger combos" more recently has converted to a Farmer FootDrum, as made clear in the offsite link offered to back the "stompbox!!" claim. FAIL.
Weeb Dingle (
talk) 17:10, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
This article begins by defining a stomp box as a small box that is tapped with the foot to make bass-drum sounds. The implication is that it's a simple mechanical device, but then this quickly morphs to include boxes with inbuilt microphones.
What then is to be done with electronic devices like the
Roland SPD::ONE Kick? Is this a stompbox? If not, what is it?
Weeb Dingle (
talk) 21:22, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
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Should this be merged with effects unit? I'm of two minds on this. Andrewa 00:46, 14 Nov 2003 (UTC)
I'd like to know how Stomp box is not redundant with Trigger pad. As well, both presently show a small wooden device that is meant to be stepped on.
Anyone who has spent any time outside of US/UK pop music knows that feet have often been used as accompaniment. John Hartford would put a microphone down by the floor to amplify the sound of his dancing around as he played. Some musicians have used a kick drum; there's at least one 3 Mustaphas 3 track where someone is rhythmically kicking a bass-drum case (correcting: actually, it was an accordion case —WD), and others have used a box, whether wood or corrugated cardboard.
Significantly, the emphasis is on plug-in devices that are presently available for sometimes exorbitant prices, rather than something that can be had at little or no cost.
With that in mind, how is a "stomp box" significantly different from a small, limited purpose cajón? As THAT aricle already exists AND is more than an unsourced stub, maybe that is where this ought be appended.
For what it's worth, stomp box has been used for at least 45 years to mean ONLY a floor-based electronic effects pedal, specifically for guitar. That NEEDS to be discussed — nobody gets to simply walk up and claim a word as though it's a trademark, and Wikipedia certainly is NOT a tool for such purpose. Lacking a credible historical source, the usage as in this article does not have primacy and therefore no authority. At best, there MUST be some attempt made to demonstrate earlier uses of the term in the context claimed. Presently, Line 6 (company) sells the M9 and M13 Stompbox Modelers.
I suspect that one or more of the cited sellers launched this "article," and a few more joined in. That would make this a pool advertisement — a mob effort, but nevertheless advertising. Most are charging $100 to $250 for what often looks a lot like the $40 box from SX — not presented here, likely (my guess) because the seller didn't choose to abuse WP.
This is a very poor article. Because it has so many proponents, I am going to mark up its flaws for them to fix.
Weeb Dingle (
talk) 14:01, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
Aside from my previous statements, I know little about the finer points of these devices, and so am inadequate to provide proper repairs, though I can easily identify specious logic. As user Lgnlint — apparently much more familiar than me with the topic — has seen fit to remove my "cluttering tags" without even pretending to be an editor by maybe fixing something, I will accept that as a go-ahead to remove unsubstantiated claims.
Weeb Dingle (
talk) 16:43, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
a simple
percussion instrument consisting of a small wooden box… except, of course, for those made from milled aluminum… or stamped steel… or cast plastic… as shown in the Gallery section. I mean, criminies.
Weeb Dingle (
talk) 15:05, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
I've tagged a bunch of names logged by fanboys in the usual Notable users list. Either the WP articles about them do not support the pants-wetting "he uses a stompbox!!" contention, or the source for that conjecture doesn't support the claim. Find better — quickly.
And anyone who simply removes these tags without fixing the problem should be aware that such action means I'll simply cut the name(s). Cool?
Weeb Dingle (
talk) 16:59, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
Example of shoddiness: turns out that
Ash Grunwald, having in the past "used a million different stompbox, kick drum and trigger combos" more recently has converted to a Farmer FootDrum, as made clear in the offsite link offered to back the "stompbox!!" claim. FAIL.
Weeb Dingle (
talk) 17:10, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
This article begins by defining a stomp box as a small box that is tapped with the foot to make bass-drum sounds. The implication is that it's a simple mechanical device, but then this quickly morphs to include boxes with inbuilt microphones.
What then is to be done with electronic devices like the
Roland SPD::ONE Kick? Is this a stompbox? If not, what is it?
Weeb Dingle (
talk) 21:22, 1 December 2019 (UTC)