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"Meet the man behind a third of what's on Wikipedia" (26 January, 2019). The Time article, already cited in the page, appeared in 2017. Since that time, other outlets such as CBS have also covered Steven Pruitt, sometimes with additional interviews and reporting. EdJohnston ( talk) 17:22, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
Have added a section at talk {{ Wikipedia}} template to add Pruitt as well as other prominent editors who have Wikipedia pages. Please comment there, thanks. Randy Kryn ( talk) 19:44, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
There was a pre-existing discussion over on Draft_talk:Steven_Pruitt, before this article got created. Here are the sources I dug up for that discussion.
Here are the major sources I saw available:
Here are some other lesser sources:
Here are some derivative pieces:
I think this is a very visible topic here at WP, and it's a matter of time before this article is submitted for AfD. It has happened before. An article about a Wikipedian will be more scrutinized, to make sure we aren't navel-gazing. I think there's a reasonable case for Pruitt's notability, but it's not a slam dunk. Try to rely more on the best sources, which are TIME, Washington Post, and CBS News. Do the sources highlight what makes him important other than just edit counts? Efforts to promote female inclusion in Wikipedia, or historical preservation? —— Rich jj ( talk) 20:49, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
The CBS News piece (not the written article, but the video) says that he has now written over 600 articles about women. This article says 200. Assuming CBS News has it right, shouldn't this be corrected? -- MelanieN ( talk) 17:53, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
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His birthdate on the opening line and info box is sourced to a search engine. It's OR and a primary source. It needs to be removed unless a proper secondary or tertiary source is provided. 98.165.105.12 ( talk) 06:32, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
Why do we say in the lead sentence "from San Antonio, Texas"? He's lived in Virginia since he was 5 years old. [1] We could say "from Virginia" or we could just leave out where he's from. It's certainly not the most notable thing about him. -- MelanieN ( talk) 20:08, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
I removed the term "volunteer" from the first sentence, but was reverted. The word "volunteer" is unnecessary because almost all Wikipedians are volunteers. The fact that a Wikipedia editor edits Wikipedia voluntarily is not anything exceptional that needs to be mentioned; in fact the contrary applies. Other BLPs on people primarily known for Wikipedia editing, such as Emily Temple-Wood, do not include the term "volunteer". I propose removing this term from this article. feminist ( talk) 18:07, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
In this edt a contributor removed the brief paragraph that notes CBS broadcast an interview with Pruitt, with the edit summary "Removing one-sentence section that says "Pruitt was interviewed"... we already use the ref in the article, so the astute reader will deduce he has spoken to the media"
Woah! Woah! Woah! Who says we only write for "astute readers"? Sure, some of our readers are astute. Some may be smarter than we are. But surely we write for everyone who can perform a web search, which includes a lot on readers who are not astute. Plus, even smart people like to reserve their cognitive reserve for tasks that really require them.
I think the contributor who made this excision is overlooking the connection between reliable sources and notability. An interview broadcast on nation-wide TV is a strong notability factor, even if we listen to the interview, and don't find anything he said was worth summarizing here. Being interviewed means professional journalists concluded he had established the journalist's idea of notability. Sure, someone should have listened to that interview, and summarized what he said. The contributor who made that excision could have done that, placed a tag on the paragraph, to get someone else to do it.
I reverted this excision. Geo Swan ( talk) 00:55, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
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Tomypelegrin ( talk) 14:15, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
I want to add his birth date
This listing cannot be true! Mathematics states this! For this to be true (forgetting the 35 thousand articles supposedly written) it would mean, if taken from the registration date of Wikipedia as a domain, that this person edited an article every three minutes, for 18 years without sleep, food, work, talking....or anything else?
Non stop for 18 years....Every 3 minutes, twenty four seven, 365.
Really?
How?17:00, 15 May 2019 (UTC) 80.47.27.160 ( talk)
Ok but this 3 minutes is all day, every day, all year, for 18 years....then you have the 35000 articles? I dont know about speed editing? What is this that you just put a comma in somewhere? And to use scripts to edit posts means that you use a predetermined stance, which thus means that you do not research anything new and science, on a daily basis, learns more. There is something very wrong with this article. 80.47.27.160 ( talk) 17:29, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
Thank you all, now I comprehend. So 35000 articles were not written just the word article has been redefined. And three million edits were not made by a human, just a bit of script....so a computer did it. Ya for the human race :( 80.47.27.160 ( talk) 19:19, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
It shouldn't count. I suspect some people make an "editing race", and really I don't like it. It's not even that I don't like it, it's that it's not beneficial.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.47.27.160 ( talk • contribs)
It's very good, but starification of the contributors is absurd.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.91.51.235 ( talk • contribs)
As we know it, he made the Edit number 1000000000 to Wikipedia. This must be mentioned in the article. Mario Jump 83! 01:20, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
When did he reach four million? I've added February, 2021, on the page as 'by...', but that's likely not the exact month. Thanks. Randy Kryn ( talk) 20:38, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
Per Wiktionary, an is "a change to the text of a document". A typical reader of Steven Pruitt, will take "highest number of edits" as meaning edits to article text. Likewise to a typical reader, an article is "a piece of nonfictional writing such as a ... encyclopedia, etc." and will take "created more than 34,000 Wikipedia articles" as he's been cranking out more than six new content articles per day year after year. But a large portion of these created articles and edits are redirects, page moves, categories, etc. I suggest that a little more context be given here. -- Cornellier ( talk) 14:38, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
2601:14a:700:d2f0:f8d0:cd7b:b584:267c recently updated Pruitt's date of birth to April 17, 1984. I did a causal search and saw some sources that cited this date, but none that would meet WP:SOURCE for living persons. Do we have any references to back this up? The user posted the date in strange format, so I updated it to meet proper MOS:DATEFORMAT but wanted to see if anyone had any information or advice on how to handle his date of birth. Wikipedialuva ( talk) 02:48, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
There is nothing tying Pruitt to Peter Francisco besides one line that he said himself in an article. I don't think that this qualifies as a proper source under wikipedia rules. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.37.82.28 ( talk) 23:39, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
Thanks, Steven, for mentioning Women in Red in "Time Magazine Named Steven Pruitt One of the Most Influential People on the Internet–Just For His Wikipedia Edits". Your constant support helps to publicize the project and encourage new participants. With every new article about you, we learn a little more, including on this occasion your date of birth! Thanks also for adding thousands of wikiproject talkpage tags to articles related to Women in Business as a basis for our focus in January. Most of them are certainly relevant and useful but I've de-tagged those on fictional characters. I think it would have been confusing to keep them, especially as quite a few of them had reached GA status. It might have looked as if women's greatest achievement in business was in fictitious soap operas. I saw that some time back you also covered Women in Music. Not surprisingly, the vast majority are related to pop. For me, it would have been more useful if you had focused on classical music (which is also a wikiproject).-- Ipigott ( talk) 10:34, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
A lot of other people have mentioned this on the talk page, but we really should specify that articles include redirects and page moves. If I hadn't checked the talk page, I would have left this article thinking someone actually created 35,000 full text articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.118.175.138 ( talk) 02:28, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
I found a reference that leads to the source to verify his edit count. It says 4.4m, but I don't know whether to change it to 4.6m or say 4.4m+ or over 4.4m.
Sheep ( talk) 00:18, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
As per BLP, the subject's parents that are "non notable" should be removed from the Infobox. Also an addition could be made in the relatives parameter for his great great grandfather Peter Francisco. Rejoy2003( talk) 07:03, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
I made the mistake of typing "Ser Amantio di Nicolao" a couple of times before while trying to find his talk page, and I'm sure people made the same mistake that I did. Wouldn't it be nice to add For Steven Pruitt's user page, see
User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao.?
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@ MrOllie, I did minor edit and please approve, if it is not under the WP policy Rakish ( talk) 03:29, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
Not sure this page qualifies under the "notability guidelines"..seems to be a double tier standard though when it comes to one of their own🤔🙄... 2A00:23EE:1158:7EE3:E27F:6B93:11DA:DE53 ( talk) 01:57, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
hey steven. im yotam ringel an producer who works with the famous israeli actor "aki avni" we tried to edit his wikipedia page few times but we didnt succeeded becuse we dont have an edit promission. we can use your help? thank you. yotam Yotam969 ( talk) 08:10, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
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"Meet the man behind a third of what's on Wikipedia" (26 January, 2019). The Time article, already cited in the page, appeared in 2017. Since that time, other outlets such as CBS have also covered Steven Pruitt, sometimes with additional interviews and reporting. EdJohnston ( talk) 17:22, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
Have added a section at talk {{ Wikipedia}} template to add Pruitt as well as other prominent editors who have Wikipedia pages. Please comment there, thanks. Randy Kryn ( talk) 19:44, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
There was a pre-existing discussion over on Draft_talk:Steven_Pruitt, before this article got created. Here are the sources I dug up for that discussion.
Here are the major sources I saw available:
Here are some other lesser sources:
Here are some derivative pieces:
I think this is a very visible topic here at WP, and it's a matter of time before this article is submitted for AfD. It has happened before. An article about a Wikipedian will be more scrutinized, to make sure we aren't navel-gazing. I think there's a reasonable case for Pruitt's notability, but it's not a slam dunk. Try to rely more on the best sources, which are TIME, Washington Post, and CBS News. Do the sources highlight what makes him important other than just edit counts? Efforts to promote female inclusion in Wikipedia, or historical preservation? —— Rich jj ( talk) 20:49, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
The CBS News piece (not the written article, but the video) says that he has now written over 600 articles about women. This article says 200. Assuming CBS News has it right, shouldn't this be corrected? -- MelanieN ( talk) 17:53, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
His birthdate on the opening line and info box is sourced to a search engine. It's OR and a primary source. It needs to be removed unless a proper secondary or tertiary source is provided. 98.165.105.12 ( talk) 06:32, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
Why do we say in the lead sentence "from San Antonio, Texas"? He's lived in Virginia since he was 5 years old. [1] We could say "from Virginia" or we could just leave out where he's from. It's certainly not the most notable thing about him. -- MelanieN ( talk) 20:08, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
I removed the term "volunteer" from the first sentence, but was reverted. The word "volunteer" is unnecessary because almost all Wikipedians are volunteers. The fact that a Wikipedia editor edits Wikipedia voluntarily is not anything exceptional that needs to be mentioned; in fact the contrary applies. Other BLPs on people primarily known for Wikipedia editing, such as Emily Temple-Wood, do not include the term "volunteer". I propose removing this term from this article. feminist ( talk) 18:07, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
In this edt a contributor removed the brief paragraph that notes CBS broadcast an interview with Pruitt, with the edit summary "Removing one-sentence section that says "Pruitt was interviewed"... we already use the ref in the article, so the astute reader will deduce he has spoken to the media"
Woah! Woah! Woah! Who says we only write for "astute readers"? Sure, some of our readers are astute. Some may be smarter than we are. But surely we write for everyone who can perform a web search, which includes a lot on readers who are not astute. Plus, even smart people like to reserve their cognitive reserve for tasks that really require them.
I think the contributor who made this excision is overlooking the connection between reliable sources and notability. An interview broadcast on nation-wide TV is a strong notability factor, even if we listen to the interview, and don't find anything he said was worth summarizing here. Being interviewed means professional journalists concluded he had established the journalist's idea of notability. Sure, someone should have listened to that interview, and summarized what he said. The contributor who made that excision could have done that, placed a tag on the paragraph, to get someone else to do it.
I reverted this excision. Geo Swan ( talk) 00:55, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Tomypelegrin ( talk) 14:15, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
I want to add his birth date
This listing cannot be true! Mathematics states this! For this to be true (forgetting the 35 thousand articles supposedly written) it would mean, if taken from the registration date of Wikipedia as a domain, that this person edited an article every three minutes, for 18 years without sleep, food, work, talking....or anything else?
Non stop for 18 years....Every 3 minutes, twenty four seven, 365.
Really?
How?17:00, 15 May 2019 (UTC) 80.47.27.160 ( talk)
Ok but this 3 minutes is all day, every day, all year, for 18 years....then you have the 35000 articles? I dont know about speed editing? What is this that you just put a comma in somewhere? And to use scripts to edit posts means that you use a predetermined stance, which thus means that you do not research anything new and science, on a daily basis, learns more. There is something very wrong with this article. 80.47.27.160 ( talk) 17:29, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
Thank you all, now I comprehend. So 35000 articles were not written just the word article has been redefined. And three million edits were not made by a human, just a bit of script....so a computer did it. Ya for the human race :( 80.47.27.160 ( talk) 19:19, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
It shouldn't count. I suspect some people make an "editing race", and really I don't like it. It's not even that I don't like it, it's that it's not beneficial.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.47.27.160 ( talk • contribs)
It's very good, but starification of the contributors is absurd.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.91.51.235 ( talk • contribs)
As we know it, he made the Edit number 1000000000 to Wikipedia. This must be mentioned in the article. Mario Jump 83! 01:20, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
When did he reach four million? I've added February, 2021, on the page as 'by...', but that's likely not the exact month. Thanks. Randy Kryn ( talk) 20:38, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
Per Wiktionary, an is "a change to the text of a document". A typical reader of Steven Pruitt, will take "highest number of edits" as meaning edits to article text. Likewise to a typical reader, an article is "a piece of nonfictional writing such as a ... encyclopedia, etc." and will take "created more than 34,000 Wikipedia articles" as he's been cranking out more than six new content articles per day year after year. But a large portion of these created articles and edits are redirects, page moves, categories, etc. I suggest that a little more context be given here. -- Cornellier ( talk) 14:38, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
2601:14a:700:d2f0:f8d0:cd7b:b584:267c recently updated Pruitt's date of birth to April 17, 1984. I did a causal search and saw some sources that cited this date, but none that would meet WP:SOURCE for living persons. Do we have any references to back this up? The user posted the date in strange format, so I updated it to meet proper MOS:DATEFORMAT but wanted to see if anyone had any information or advice on how to handle his date of birth. Wikipedialuva ( talk) 02:48, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
There is nothing tying Pruitt to Peter Francisco besides one line that he said himself in an article. I don't think that this qualifies as a proper source under wikipedia rules. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.37.82.28 ( talk) 23:39, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
Thanks, Steven, for mentioning Women in Red in "Time Magazine Named Steven Pruitt One of the Most Influential People on the Internet–Just For His Wikipedia Edits". Your constant support helps to publicize the project and encourage new participants. With every new article about you, we learn a little more, including on this occasion your date of birth! Thanks also for adding thousands of wikiproject talkpage tags to articles related to Women in Business as a basis for our focus in January. Most of them are certainly relevant and useful but I've de-tagged those on fictional characters. I think it would have been confusing to keep them, especially as quite a few of them had reached GA status. It might have looked as if women's greatest achievement in business was in fictitious soap operas. I saw that some time back you also covered Women in Music. Not surprisingly, the vast majority are related to pop. For me, it would have been more useful if you had focused on classical music (which is also a wikiproject).-- Ipigott ( talk) 10:34, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
A lot of other people have mentioned this on the talk page, but we really should specify that articles include redirects and page moves. If I hadn't checked the talk page, I would have left this article thinking someone actually created 35,000 full text articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.118.175.138 ( talk) 02:28, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
I found a reference that leads to the source to verify his edit count. It says 4.4m, but I don't know whether to change it to 4.6m or say 4.4m+ or over 4.4m.
Sheep ( talk) 00:18, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
As per BLP, the subject's parents that are "non notable" should be removed from the Infobox. Also an addition could be made in the relatives parameter for his great great grandfather Peter Francisco. Rejoy2003( talk) 07:03, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
I made the mistake of typing "Ser Amantio di Nicolao" a couple of times before while trying to find his talk page, and I'm sure people made the same mistake that I did. Wouldn't it be nice to add For Steven Pruitt's user page, see
User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao.?
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03:39, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
@ MrOllie, I did minor edit and please approve, if it is not under the WP policy Rakish ( talk) 03:29, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
Not sure this page qualifies under the "notability guidelines"..seems to be a double tier standard though when it comes to one of their own🤔🙄... 2A00:23EE:1158:7EE3:E27F:6B93:11DA:DE53 ( talk) 01:57, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
hey steven. im yotam ringel an producer who works with the famous israeli actor "aki avni" we tried to edit his wikipedia page few times but we didnt succeeded becuse we dont have an edit promission. we can use your help? thank you. yotam Yotam969 ( talk) 08:10, 7 May 2024 (UTC)