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I have noticed that in the last paragraph of International Carrer, Gerrard declared he is in love with fellow midfielder Xabi Alonso, I don't know who did that but they are being very immature.
Whoever wrote "The game started badly." is obviously a Liverpool fan, this is not a neutral POV, because i'm sure A.C Milan fans didn't think the game started badly.
---why is dudek fowler and gonzalezs names still in the liverpool squad box
FIFA, the FA and http://www.stevengerrard.com all have Gerrard's International goals as nine, yet the Wikipedia article has it as ten, thought I add this here before changing it. David Kent 23:15, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Some of the infomation there is highly biased —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.152.169.80 ( talk • contribs) 22:06, 8 June 2006.
Theres not yet a link to a decent steven gerrard fansite on here. A quality, requently updated fansite would have been an integral part of making the Steven Gerrard Wikki entry useful and informative. http://www.stevengerrard.com is frequently updated and contains news on steven, england and liverpool fc [updated daily]. As far as I know it is the most popular and biggest of steven's fansites on the internet getting many visits from all over the world. the site is relevant and informative. ive added it to the links section, is this ok? gunner 10:24, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Ok so i am not the best at editing pages- what do you expect?? i didnt think i had signed out. give me some slack this is one of the first contributions which i'm trying to make. What harm can adding a decent fansite [ http://www.stevengerrard.com] do anyway?? gunner 10:24, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
http://www.stevengerrard.com is cool and no harm it rocks ! Gerrad should buy it !
can i just add that http://www.stevengerrard.com is *not* my site. i helped my client with the setup and design. that is all. gunner 10:49, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Alii none else seems to have a problem with it, why are you being so awkward? if you search for any other footballer on wiki you will find they list fansites. to what reason would http://www.stevengerrard.com be considered not to add enough to make it worthwhile?? The site is informative, kept up to date, active, constantly checked, well designed??? Someone who was to come accross the steven gerrard wiki might well want to meet up with other "fans", they may even be looking for fansites? Also, I would just like to inform you that the reason for the forum having few posts is due to the site being redesigned and old posts within the forum being cleaned out. If you look at the whois information on the domain and read the above posts you will find this is not my site- therefore it wouldnt really effect me if it was added or not. P.s.I dont mean to come accross rude or abrasive in my post, i just dont understand your awkwardness. Thanks. gunner 17:31, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
This is the first time I have done this, so if it is added incorrectly, then I apoligise. I use Wikipedia regularly to research my favourite sports stars, and I think that the external links add a lot to the articles. I also think that a link to a website with the latest news, especially in the build-up/during the world cup, is a good idea. I agree with AIias Flood that the site is relevant. David Kent 19:26, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
I am not "affiliated with this guy" nor am I "Gunner007". My contribution count does not affect my ability to comment on this. I feel it is kind of harsh to remove a link, when many other articles have external links to fan sites. But let's take your POV on the situation "If a fan comes to wikipedia looking for info, then I'm sure they're also able to google to find your fansite." Surely that would mean that all external links should be removed as "they're also able to google"
I could understand the dispute if the website was stored on Geocities (for example) or very bad and not kept up to date, but in my opinion it's a good site and does not seem to be stored on free space.
Maybe I am misunderstanding your reasons for removal, but as I stated earlier, I would think that this link is relevant to an article regarding Steven Gerrard. David Kent 20:11, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Why link to the LFC forum it is an article regarding Steven Gerrard not Liverpool, users (like myself) maybe a fan of Gerrard but not Liverpool. Your comment Alii of "Otherwise if we add this site, then why shouldn't we also add X, Y and Z?" can be turned the other way around, why should we have have links to soccerbase and FootballDatabase? Surely they could equally be fine today, and full of trash tomorrow.
I personally have never heard of footballdatabase.com, looking at said website the guestbook throws up a mysql error, the about us page is "under construction".....
If I am required to list the various things I like about this website, like Alii has done regarding the things he dislikes, somebody will have to let me know.
I don't know what happens now, as yourself and Gunner007 seem to be at a stalemate, but I must say I support Gunner007 in this matter.
I feel that this link, and maybe others, would add to the article, and if the links were checked regularaly would stop the article being "full of trash tomorrow". David Kent 23:02, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
I've re-added the soccerbase link. It's not a fansite and it has a different kind of stat to the BBC site. You can see all the matches he's played and look at different seasons etc. SLUMGUM yap stalk 23:55, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Alii, I stil dont understand your point of view. I'm yet to see anyone post on here with the same opinion. news and articles on http://www.stevengerrard.com are as neutral as possible. IMO http://www.stevengerrard.com is a great example of how a fansite should be.
I understand that wiki should not be used as a 'link repositry' but as long as new links are regulary checked and duff ones removed i cant see why a few fansites cant be added to the link section. Maybe a set of guidelines/rules for fansites would be a good idea in order to judge sites? In previous post you question the popularity of http://www.stevengerrard.com, I can get the figures to prove the sites popularity. gunner 15:53, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
I've deleted the line that states Steven Gerrard is 4th Choice england captain. There is no 3rd or 4th choice captain, only vice-captain. If neither is available then a one-off choice is made. The same for if the acting captain is substituted, the captains armband is passed onto a player of his choice. Jamie 10:55, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
We need to finds a profile picture of steven gerrard as the previous ones have not conformed to the non-copyright policy. Any ideas? Jamie 08:46, 18 January 2006 (UTC) the picture of gerrard in the corner is excellent no other photos are needed
Hi folks. When attempting to combat some rife vandalism of the Steven Gerrard page I had trouble saving the corrected page due to alleged 'spam links' in the article. To get the article back to a sensible state I simply removed the offending links. Perhaps someone with knowledge of the subject can reinstate appropriate ones. Kcordina 09:34, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
Does this make sense to anyone else? Makes none to me. Should it be England Schoolboys? Stu 11:55, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Kinda crazy 08:09, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
whoever's been saying that stevie grew up as an everton supporter, must ovbiously be a jealous everton supporter him/herself!
Proof he was a Everton fan - www.bluekipper.com/.../toffee_gerrard.jpg No self respecting Red would wear this and pose with the trophies. Not for a joke or anything. Carlito777 ( talk) 15:31, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
The article states that Gerrard is looking to cap his year with an FA Cup winners medal. What about a World Cup winners medal, or is the FA Cup more important?!? Gretnagod 01:51, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
"became the second youngest captain ever to lift the European Cup when Liverpool won the competition in 2005."
Fair enought, but who was the youngest then? I mean an addtion like "second to ___" would be good wouldn't it? -- Skully Collins 14:25, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
The Didier Deschamps page needs to be edited then - "He is the second youngest captain to lead his team to the Champions League title (behind Steven Gerrard in 2005)"
Orius76
Linking every date on a page does absolutely nothing to help the clarity or level of information on a page. Is every date on this page linked? No. If I do 5 tildes does it give a linked date? No. Does saying "Steven Gerrard scored a goal on 4 July", which I could then click and think "hey that's American Independence Day, cool!" add anything to Steven Gerrard? No.
It's dumb. That's why I reverted all dates that weren't birthdates. The link to date format page doesn't mention anything about linking every possible date. aLii 19:20, 11 May 2006 (UTC) (note it isn't linked!!!)
As I understand it, to qualify for a medal in a cup competition you have to be in the starting 11 or on the bench. If a player outside of this gets a medal it's usually out of pity from the manager or a coach. But, in my eyes, officially not as a career honour. Steven Gerrard was not in the squad for the Euro Super Cup due to injury, therefore didn't officially win this honour. It's like saying Crouch and Kewell, who were both injured, or even an unknown reserve at that time winning it. They didn't, I must have removed this honour from the list over a half a dozen times. SG73 09:30, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
¹ Obviously with one-off competitions like the ESC, this equates to featuring in the competition that led to it. ArtVandelay13 19:24, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
I have to disagree, Liverpool's official WWW would not have Gerrard as winning the Super Cup, if so Neil Mellor could say he won as he played in the champions league as he scored against Olypiakos. As for Roy Keane and Paul Scholes, they didn't win it either. SG73
His official biography should now clarify the situation. ( SG73 14:23, 13 September 2006 (UTC)).
Roy Keane and Paul Scholes got medals, just cos they didnt play in the final doesnt mean they didnt win it. Keano's legendary performance in the semi-final against Juventus was what got us there so he was influential in united winning the champions league! 81.154.127.146 12:34, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
From what I know any player that takes part in the competition at some time is considered as a winner in the competition.Scot Carson won one because he had played in the Champions League against Juventus.So I must say Neil Mellor has won the champions cup if he has played.Someone should edit it.Gerrard cannot be considered for the European Super cup winner's medal because he never played a part in it.I want to make one thing clear a medal and a honour is different.For a medal you have to play in the final match and in that case Roy Keane and Paul Scholes have not got the medal but have won it because they had previously played a part in the competition.A medal is no proof that a player has won the competition its just an extra award.To get the English Premiership medal you have to take part in 10 games as a sub or regular from the 38 games.You then officially win the League Title and it is listed as a honour you have won but for the medal you have to be a part of the squad that played the game when the trophy was awarded.It means Louis Saha won't get a medal when Man Utd are awarded the Premier League trophy when they play Chelsea at Stamford bridge but he has officially won it but will not get a medal.Since the European Supercup has only one game you have to be a part of the squad to get it but since UEFA considers it to be an extension match then if you have played a part in the team's UEFA Cup or Champions Cup victory then you are listed as a winner of the European Supercup.The list in Wikipedia list medal winners instead players who have won it.So yes Steven Gerrard has won the European Supercup and I am editing it right now.Hope this clears up everything.(3E933333Boy)
As people keep adding and removing links every day I thought it'd be nice to get some clarification here as to what is and what isn't appropriate. aLii 09:18, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
As I keep on editing it back to what I believe him to be, 185cm, from 183cm. I thought that perhaps we should have a discussion about this. The BBC site lists Gerrard as 185cm [1], which is 6'1". I can believe this. The Official Liverpool website lists him as 6'0", which isn't crazy, but this is the same site that thinks Jamie Carragher is 5'9"(!) [2] and that Robbie Fowler doesn't have a height [3]. I tend to believe the BBC site to be honest.
A few others:
I am quite sure gerrard is 183 cm which around 6 ft
To whomever was questioning whether Gerrard is indeed the only player to have scored in the finals of the FA Cup, League Cup, UEFA Cup and UEFA Champions League, just think for a moment of other players that have even played in those finals? I'm guessing it's a pretty select bunch of (probably only) Liverpool players... Now from that which Liverpool players have even scored in both european finals?
I'd say it's a pretty fair assumption even without looking up the exact facts. aLii 12:01, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
sorry, just to verify, you claim that this select few who would have only played in all four would come from liverpool, also thierry henry has played in all four for arsenal.just thought i'd include this after what is possibly gerrard's worst performance to date in a major cup final against milan.
As far as I am aware, the 'death threats' story started in an article in the Evening Standard. It was obviously written by a Chelsea fan, and had a sort of 'Chelsea are the best club in the world, therefore no-one would turn down a move there unless there was a sinister reason' attitude. I believe his real reason for staying was an unwillingness to uproot his family. (This is just FYI, I don't think there any online sources for this.) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.64.27.80 ( talk • contribs) 23:02, 18 June 2006.
Is it worth mentioning that his is considered a strong contender to be next England captain? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.13.202.147 ( talk • contribs)
One person (Pele) makes him 'widely regarded'. Skinnyweed 14:29, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
I corrected it (ages ago) after it was not just out-of-date, but about 6 seasons out-of-date! I can be in charge of that, I'm the only one who seems to get it right! Right now, I'm banned off the computer, so it won't get updated straight away at first, but I'll try me best for it not to be too long, and when I'm actually allowed back on, it'll get updated quite quick. As soon as I finish this message, I'm gonna' change the profile now so it's correct! I'ts actually naturally in my mind, the total amount of LFC first team official appearances and the total amount of first team official goals. At this current moment, he's made 337 appearances and scored 64 goals. Good record.
In this part, it doesn't include this season's statistics, involving two games already. I don't know if they're only added at the end of the season, it doesn't make it clear, but it probably isn't, and I'm going to update it now. User:Mazito 03:56, 14 August 2006 (BST/GMT+1)
is his number 8 or 4?
i removed a citation needed tag from where it says he pressured liverpool into giving him a contract as it clearly states it's from his autobiography. if someone can verify this by actually reading the autobiography, it would be appreciated. -- Scott w 20:03, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
also removed the one regarding his captaincy. same reason -- Scott w 20:11, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
can someone confirm that he played 28 epl games in? some places say he only played 21 games. Chensiyuan 17:46, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
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I have noticed that in the last paragraph of International Carrer, Gerrard declared he is in love with fellow midfielder Xabi Alonso, I don't know who did that but they are being very immature.
Whoever wrote "The game started badly." is obviously a Liverpool fan, this is not a neutral POV, because i'm sure A.C Milan fans didn't think the game started badly.
---why is dudek fowler and gonzalezs names still in the liverpool squad box
FIFA, the FA and http://www.stevengerrard.com all have Gerrard's International goals as nine, yet the Wikipedia article has it as ten, thought I add this here before changing it. David Kent 23:15, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Some of the infomation there is highly biased —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.152.169.80 ( talk • contribs) 22:06, 8 June 2006.
Theres not yet a link to a decent steven gerrard fansite on here. A quality, requently updated fansite would have been an integral part of making the Steven Gerrard Wikki entry useful and informative. http://www.stevengerrard.com is frequently updated and contains news on steven, england and liverpool fc [updated daily]. As far as I know it is the most popular and biggest of steven's fansites on the internet getting many visits from all over the world. the site is relevant and informative. ive added it to the links section, is this ok? gunner 10:24, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Ok so i am not the best at editing pages- what do you expect?? i didnt think i had signed out. give me some slack this is one of the first contributions which i'm trying to make. What harm can adding a decent fansite [ http://www.stevengerrard.com] do anyway?? gunner 10:24, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
http://www.stevengerrard.com is cool and no harm it rocks ! Gerrad should buy it !
can i just add that http://www.stevengerrard.com is *not* my site. i helped my client with the setup and design. that is all. gunner 10:49, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Alii none else seems to have a problem with it, why are you being so awkward? if you search for any other footballer on wiki you will find they list fansites. to what reason would http://www.stevengerrard.com be considered not to add enough to make it worthwhile?? The site is informative, kept up to date, active, constantly checked, well designed??? Someone who was to come accross the steven gerrard wiki might well want to meet up with other "fans", they may even be looking for fansites? Also, I would just like to inform you that the reason for the forum having few posts is due to the site being redesigned and old posts within the forum being cleaned out. If you look at the whois information on the domain and read the above posts you will find this is not my site- therefore it wouldnt really effect me if it was added or not. P.s.I dont mean to come accross rude or abrasive in my post, i just dont understand your awkwardness. Thanks. gunner 17:31, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
This is the first time I have done this, so if it is added incorrectly, then I apoligise. I use Wikipedia regularly to research my favourite sports stars, and I think that the external links add a lot to the articles. I also think that a link to a website with the latest news, especially in the build-up/during the world cup, is a good idea. I agree with AIias Flood that the site is relevant. David Kent 19:26, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
I am not "affiliated with this guy" nor am I "Gunner007". My contribution count does not affect my ability to comment on this. I feel it is kind of harsh to remove a link, when many other articles have external links to fan sites. But let's take your POV on the situation "If a fan comes to wikipedia looking for info, then I'm sure they're also able to google to find your fansite." Surely that would mean that all external links should be removed as "they're also able to google"
I could understand the dispute if the website was stored on Geocities (for example) or very bad and not kept up to date, but in my opinion it's a good site and does not seem to be stored on free space.
Maybe I am misunderstanding your reasons for removal, but as I stated earlier, I would think that this link is relevant to an article regarding Steven Gerrard. David Kent 20:11, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Why link to the LFC forum it is an article regarding Steven Gerrard not Liverpool, users (like myself) maybe a fan of Gerrard but not Liverpool. Your comment Alii of "Otherwise if we add this site, then why shouldn't we also add X, Y and Z?" can be turned the other way around, why should we have have links to soccerbase and FootballDatabase? Surely they could equally be fine today, and full of trash tomorrow.
I personally have never heard of footballdatabase.com, looking at said website the guestbook throws up a mysql error, the about us page is "under construction".....
If I am required to list the various things I like about this website, like Alii has done regarding the things he dislikes, somebody will have to let me know.
I don't know what happens now, as yourself and Gunner007 seem to be at a stalemate, but I must say I support Gunner007 in this matter.
I feel that this link, and maybe others, would add to the article, and if the links were checked regularaly would stop the article being "full of trash tomorrow". David Kent 23:02, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
I've re-added the soccerbase link. It's not a fansite and it has a different kind of stat to the BBC site. You can see all the matches he's played and look at different seasons etc. SLUMGUM yap stalk 23:55, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Alii, I stil dont understand your point of view. I'm yet to see anyone post on here with the same opinion. news and articles on http://www.stevengerrard.com are as neutral as possible. IMO http://www.stevengerrard.com is a great example of how a fansite should be.
I understand that wiki should not be used as a 'link repositry' but as long as new links are regulary checked and duff ones removed i cant see why a few fansites cant be added to the link section. Maybe a set of guidelines/rules for fansites would be a good idea in order to judge sites? In previous post you question the popularity of http://www.stevengerrard.com, I can get the figures to prove the sites popularity. gunner 15:53, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
I've deleted the line that states Steven Gerrard is 4th Choice england captain. There is no 3rd or 4th choice captain, only vice-captain. If neither is available then a one-off choice is made. The same for if the acting captain is substituted, the captains armband is passed onto a player of his choice. Jamie 10:55, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
We need to finds a profile picture of steven gerrard as the previous ones have not conformed to the non-copyright policy. Any ideas? Jamie 08:46, 18 January 2006 (UTC) the picture of gerrard in the corner is excellent no other photos are needed
Hi folks. When attempting to combat some rife vandalism of the Steven Gerrard page I had trouble saving the corrected page due to alleged 'spam links' in the article. To get the article back to a sensible state I simply removed the offending links. Perhaps someone with knowledge of the subject can reinstate appropriate ones. Kcordina 09:34, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
Does this make sense to anyone else? Makes none to me. Should it be England Schoolboys? Stu 11:55, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Kinda crazy 08:09, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
whoever's been saying that stevie grew up as an everton supporter, must ovbiously be a jealous everton supporter him/herself!
Proof he was a Everton fan - www.bluekipper.com/.../toffee_gerrard.jpg No self respecting Red would wear this and pose with the trophies. Not for a joke or anything. Carlito777 ( talk) 15:31, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
The article states that Gerrard is looking to cap his year with an FA Cup winners medal. What about a World Cup winners medal, or is the FA Cup more important?!? Gretnagod 01:51, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
"became the second youngest captain ever to lift the European Cup when Liverpool won the competition in 2005."
Fair enought, but who was the youngest then? I mean an addtion like "second to ___" would be good wouldn't it? -- Skully Collins 14:25, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
The Didier Deschamps page needs to be edited then - "He is the second youngest captain to lead his team to the Champions League title (behind Steven Gerrard in 2005)"
Orius76
Linking every date on a page does absolutely nothing to help the clarity or level of information on a page. Is every date on this page linked? No. If I do 5 tildes does it give a linked date? No. Does saying "Steven Gerrard scored a goal on 4 July", which I could then click and think "hey that's American Independence Day, cool!" add anything to Steven Gerrard? No.
It's dumb. That's why I reverted all dates that weren't birthdates. The link to date format page doesn't mention anything about linking every possible date. aLii 19:20, 11 May 2006 (UTC) (note it isn't linked!!!)
As I understand it, to qualify for a medal in a cup competition you have to be in the starting 11 or on the bench. If a player outside of this gets a medal it's usually out of pity from the manager or a coach. But, in my eyes, officially not as a career honour. Steven Gerrard was not in the squad for the Euro Super Cup due to injury, therefore didn't officially win this honour. It's like saying Crouch and Kewell, who were both injured, or even an unknown reserve at that time winning it. They didn't, I must have removed this honour from the list over a half a dozen times. SG73 09:30, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
¹ Obviously with one-off competitions like the ESC, this equates to featuring in the competition that led to it. ArtVandelay13 19:24, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
I have to disagree, Liverpool's official WWW would not have Gerrard as winning the Super Cup, if so Neil Mellor could say he won as he played in the champions league as he scored against Olypiakos. As for Roy Keane and Paul Scholes, they didn't win it either. SG73
His official biography should now clarify the situation. ( SG73 14:23, 13 September 2006 (UTC)).
Roy Keane and Paul Scholes got medals, just cos they didnt play in the final doesnt mean they didnt win it. Keano's legendary performance in the semi-final against Juventus was what got us there so he was influential in united winning the champions league! 81.154.127.146 12:34, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
From what I know any player that takes part in the competition at some time is considered as a winner in the competition.Scot Carson won one because he had played in the Champions League against Juventus.So I must say Neil Mellor has won the champions cup if he has played.Someone should edit it.Gerrard cannot be considered for the European Super cup winner's medal because he never played a part in it.I want to make one thing clear a medal and a honour is different.For a medal you have to play in the final match and in that case Roy Keane and Paul Scholes have not got the medal but have won it because they had previously played a part in the competition.A medal is no proof that a player has won the competition its just an extra award.To get the English Premiership medal you have to take part in 10 games as a sub or regular from the 38 games.You then officially win the League Title and it is listed as a honour you have won but for the medal you have to be a part of the squad that played the game when the trophy was awarded.It means Louis Saha won't get a medal when Man Utd are awarded the Premier League trophy when they play Chelsea at Stamford bridge but he has officially won it but will not get a medal.Since the European Supercup has only one game you have to be a part of the squad to get it but since UEFA considers it to be an extension match then if you have played a part in the team's UEFA Cup or Champions Cup victory then you are listed as a winner of the European Supercup.The list in Wikipedia list medal winners instead players who have won it.So yes Steven Gerrard has won the European Supercup and I am editing it right now.Hope this clears up everything.(3E933333Boy)
As people keep adding and removing links every day I thought it'd be nice to get some clarification here as to what is and what isn't appropriate. aLii 09:18, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
As I keep on editing it back to what I believe him to be, 185cm, from 183cm. I thought that perhaps we should have a discussion about this. The BBC site lists Gerrard as 185cm [1], which is 6'1". I can believe this. The Official Liverpool website lists him as 6'0", which isn't crazy, but this is the same site that thinks Jamie Carragher is 5'9"(!) [2] and that Robbie Fowler doesn't have a height [3]. I tend to believe the BBC site to be honest.
A few others:
I am quite sure gerrard is 183 cm which around 6 ft
To whomever was questioning whether Gerrard is indeed the only player to have scored in the finals of the FA Cup, League Cup, UEFA Cup and UEFA Champions League, just think for a moment of other players that have even played in those finals? I'm guessing it's a pretty select bunch of (probably only) Liverpool players... Now from that which Liverpool players have even scored in both european finals?
I'd say it's a pretty fair assumption even without looking up the exact facts. aLii 12:01, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
sorry, just to verify, you claim that this select few who would have only played in all four would come from liverpool, also thierry henry has played in all four for arsenal.just thought i'd include this after what is possibly gerrard's worst performance to date in a major cup final against milan.
As far as I am aware, the 'death threats' story started in an article in the Evening Standard. It was obviously written by a Chelsea fan, and had a sort of 'Chelsea are the best club in the world, therefore no-one would turn down a move there unless there was a sinister reason' attitude. I believe his real reason for staying was an unwillingness to uproot his family. (This is just FYI, I don't think there any online sources for this.) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.64.27.80 ( talk • contribs) 23:02, 18 June 2006.
Is it worth mentioning that his is considered a strong contender to be next England captain? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.13.202.147 ( talk • contribs)
One person (Pele) makes him 'widely regarded'. Skinnyweed 14:29, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
I corrected it (ages ago) after it was not just out-of-date, but about 6 seasons out-of-date! I can be in charge of that, I'm the only one who seems to get it right! Right now, I'm banned off the computer, so it won't get updated straight away at first, but I'll try me best for it not to be too long, and when I'm actually allowed back on, it'll get updated quite quick. As soon as I finish this message, I'm gonna' change the profile now so it's correct! I'ts actually naturally in my mind, the total amount of LFC first team official appearances and the total amount of first team official goals. At this current moment, he's made 337 appearances and scored 64 goals. Good record.
In this part, it doesn't include this season's statistics, involving two games already. I don't know if they're only added at the end of the season, it doesn't make it clear, but it probably isn't, and I'm going to update it now. User:Mazito 03:56, 14 August 2006 (BST/GMT+1)
is his number 8 or 4?
i removed a citation needed tag from where it says he pressured liverpool into giving him a contract as it clearly states it's from his autobiography. if someone can verify this by actually reading the autobiography, it would be appreciated. -- Scott w 20:03, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
also removed the one regarding his captaincy. same reason -- Scott w 20:11, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
can someone confirm that he played 28 epl games in? some places say he only played 21 games. Chensiyuan 17:46, 23 December 2006 (UTC)