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The memorial site www.RIPSteve.com was taken down. It is an appropriate site and not spam. CNN contacted the webmaster Rich Powell for permission to talk and show the site on their program. It is not a joke or a spam site. It's not a "Best Fan Site EVER!!!!111!!!". It is legit and respectful and should be included. Sirengarg 11:09PM EST, 5 Sepetember 2006 (UTC)
"Steve Irwin is active in politics and is a supporter of the conservative Liberal Party of Australia. In particular, he strongly supports the incumbent Prime Minister John Howard."
From the section on his rescue of the man in Mexico is the line
"Jones reported not recognising his celebrity rescuer as he had never seen Irwin on television."
In anyway needed? It doesn't seem to fit into the article Vohod 01:19, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Should we include this link on the page? (link below). It had been posted on this talk page before, but was not clear. It is a video on YouTube, relating to Steve Irwin's death. [1]
This is just silly. Please change it to while. No one uses the word whilst. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.95.240.214 ( talk • contribs)
It depends on whether you mean written or spoken Australian English. However, does it matter? The point has been made in numerous other discussion pages that this is supposed to be a geography- and dialect-neutral web site. I have no problem with "whilst," but I do think the general argument among the, for lack of a better description, pro-whilst section seems to be, well, you're stupid and provincial so shut up. Nice. -- Raulpascal 17:55, 5 September 2006 (UTC) Follow-up to the last: Ds13, I looked at your personal page, and one of your five personal editing standards is "NPOV is non-negotiable." That standard specifically mentions geographical bias. Please do not display such.-- Raulpascal 17:55, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm American and I support the use of "whilst." -- Malber ( talk • contribs) 17:57, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
America FTW! Down with whilist. 128.62.100.220 18:04, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
It would be nice if people didn't mistakenly attempt to correct perfectly valid words and phrases from forms of English with which they're unfamiliar. It would be even nicer if other people didn't respond by insulting and degrading these well-meaning but misguided contributors. — David Levy 18:08, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
It doesn't matter if the Queen Mum herself died on the cross. Australian English isn't the Lingua franca of the world. The article should use real English, AMERICAN ENGLISH. 128.62.100.220 18:31, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
I've been to Cleveland. Nobody there says "whilst". They do play jokes, though. Getting folks to talk about "whilst" could be one of them. Wahkeenah 23:02, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't instead of having different sorts of English for different pages we just have some kind of consistency. Let's stick with ENGLISH ENGLISH. Its the original and its what most of the world uses. They use whilst. Lets just use whilst (I'm Australian by the way). Apterygial 05:47, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
When Stainton said, "he pulled it out and the next minute he's gone," could the he actually refer to the stingray, and not Irwin? As far as I know, Stainton never clarified what he meant; the sources saying that Irwin pulled out the barb are just interpretations of Stainton's statement. Zagalejo 14:42, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know if detailed information, such as coordinates, were released regarding the location where Irwin's fatal injury occured? Coolgamer 14:51, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
This shot was taken at the exact spot the arrow points to: http://www.mianos.com/locations/port_douglas/low_isles/lowIsles.jpg.html If it is accurate I can free the copyright 203.217.63.240 08:44, 6 September 2006 (UTC) mianos
In the Trivia section, there's a suspect anecdote about an injury resembling a frontal lobotomy, which sounds like a joke. The only reference is to the IMDB. Can anyone verify that Steve Irwin actually said this, and not as a joke? Even if said in seriousness, it's probably medically inaccurate, and contradicts numerous occasions where Steve admitted and displayed normal fear reactions. Djcastel 15:35, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
The Crocodile Hunter have been regularly broadcast in Singapore on the Kids Channel tv station. People from young children to teenagers enjoy the episodes and admire Steve Irwin for his bravery and his committment in educating the young on wildlife issues. His death has brought grief to all and net users have started various movements in commemoration for his death. Msn messenger users have even started to put a tortise in front of their nicknames in respect for Steve. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Silentcelle21 ( talk • contribs) 15:39, 5 September 2006 (utc).
So is Steve irwin going to get a state funeral? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.50.79.110 ( talk • contribs) 16:02, 5 September 2006 (utc).
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! So did they accept the idea of doing a state funeral, because I want to watch it! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.50.79.110 ( talk • contribs) 16:53, 5 September 2006.
This article has a long list of references and seems well written. It doesn't seem too far off of being a featured article. I think in Steve's memory, we should work to that end.-- Daysleeper47 16:13, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
I removed a brief discussion on whether Irwin got what he deserved, that also involved a question about whether he attempted to touch the ray. It says in the article that he did not touch the ray, he accidentally boxed it in by swimming over it. Regardless, please don't post such discussions, as they aren't related to improving the article. If you want to read or discuss whether he got what he deserved, go to one of the millions of other sites covering this that allow that kind of chat.-- ▫Bad▫harlick♠ 09:39, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
hello everyone
please add this interwiki to the hebrew wikipedia: he:סטיב ארווין. thanks, 88.152.202.166 17:54, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
I've reviewed the nomination (expedited as requested) and awarded good article status. Recommend standardizing web page access dates in the footnotes. Otherwise, good work. I suggest nominating for FA after the media attention subsides and the page stabilizes. Regards, Durova 17:10, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
(See #Good Article nomination and #Feature Article above.) -- Addicted 17:19, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Recommend reconsideration: the stability criterion applies to edit warring rather than to ordinary high traffic. Topics in the news have received the designation before. Here I see no editorial conflict and recent events are adequately presented and referenced. I won't re-add the GA template myself, but would like to restate my support. Durova 17:33, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm taking this page off my watchlist... again... for the second time in two days. I'd appreciate a short talk message if anyone promotes to GA while the heavy editing is still ongoing (if it gets promoted in a week when everything's died down, then don't bother with the message). Thanks. – Ch acor 18:38, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Preventing promotion to good article on a highly-edited page is nonsensical. If the article is good, it's good, period. It doesn't matter that part of it happens to be documenting something which is still very much an ongoing incident attracting lots of attention. It's impossible for a subject to be current news and our coverage of it to be good. -- Cyde Weys 18:41, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
To improve the article, this point should be discussed. I see that Irwin "boxed' the animal in, but did he touch him(the ray)or try to touch him?-- 68.228.148.52 17:56, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
![]() | This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
The memorial site www.RIPSteve.com was taken down. It is an appropriate site and not spam. CNN contacted the webmaster Rich Powell for permission to talk and show the site on their program. It is not a joke or a spam site. It's not a "Best Fan Site EVER!!!!111!!!". It is legit and respectful and should be included. Sirengarg 11:09PM EST, 5 Sepetember 2006 (UTC)
"Steve Irwin is active in politics and is a supporter of the conservative Liberal Party of Australia. In particular, he strongly supports the incumbent Prime Minister John Howard."
From the section on his rescue of the man in Mexico is the line
"Jones reported not recognising his celebrity rescuer as he had never seen Irwin on television."
In anyway needed? It doesn't seem to fit into the article Vohod 01:19, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Should we include this link on the page? (link below). It had been posted on this talk page before, but was not clear. It is a video on YouTube, relating to Steve Irwin's death. [1]
This is just silly. Please change it to while. No one uses the word whilst. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.95.240.214 ( talk • contribs)
It depends on whether you mean written or spoken Australian English. However, does it matter? The point has been made in numerous other discussion pages that this is supposed to be a geography- and dialect-neutral web site. I have no problem with "whilst," but I do think the general argument among the, for lack of a better description, pro-whilst section seems to be, well, you're stupid and provincial so shut up. Nice. -- Raulpascal 17:55, 5 September 2006 (UTC) Follow-up to the last: Ds13, I looked at your personal page, and one of your five personal editing standards is "NPOV is non-negotiable." That standard specifically mentions geographical bias. Please do not display such.-- Raulpascal 17:55, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm American and I support the use of "whilst." -- Malber ( talk • contribs) 17:57, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
America FTW! Down with whilist. 128.62.100.220 18:04, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
It would be nice if people didn't mistakenly attempt to correct perfectly valid words and phrases from forms of English with which they're unfamiliar. It would be even nicer if other people didn't respond by insulting and degrading these well-meaning but misguided contributors. — David Levy 18:08, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
It doesn't matter if the Queen Mum herself died on the cross. Australian English isn't the Lingua franca of the world. The article should use real English, AMERICAN ENGLISH. 128.62.100.220 18:31, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
I've been to Cleveland. Nobody there says "whilst". They do play jokes, though. Getting folks to talk about "whilst" could be one of them. Wahkeenah 23:02, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't instead of having different sorts of English for different pages we just have some kind of consistency. Let's stick with ENGLISH ENGLISH. Its the original and its what most of the world uses. They use whilst. Lets just use whilst (I'm Australian by the way). Apterygial 05:47, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
When Stainton said, "he pulled it out and the next minute he's gone," could the he actually refer to the stingray, and not Irwin? As far as I know, Stainton never clarified what he meant; the sources saying that Irwin pulled out the barb are just interpretations of Stainton's statement. Zagalejo 14:42, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know if detailed information, such as coordinates, were released regarding the location where Irwin's fatal injury occured? Coolgamer 14:51, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
This shot was taken at the exact spot the arrow points to: http://www.mianos.com/locations/port_douglas/low_isles/lowIsles.jpg.html If it is accurate I can free the copyright 203.217.63.240 08:44, 6 September 2006 (UTC) mianos
In the Trivia section, there's a suspect anecdote about an injury resembling a frontal lobotomy, which sounds like a joke. The only reference is to the IMDB. Can anyone verify that Steve Irwin actually said this, and not as a joke? Even if said in seriousness, it's probably medically inaccurate, and contradicts numerous occasions where Steve admitted and displayed normal fear reactions. Djcastel 15:35, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
The Crocodile Hunter have been regularly broadcast in Singapore on the Kids Channel tv station. People from young children to teenagers enjoy the episodes and admire Steve Irwin for his bravery and his committment in educating the young on wildlife issues. His death has brought grief to all and net users have started various movements in commemoration for his death. Msn messenger users have even started to put a tortise in front of their nicknames in respect for Steve. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Silentcelle21 ( talk • contribs) 15:39, 5 September 2006 (utc).
So is Steve irwin going to get a state funeral? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.50.79.110 ( talk • contribs) 16:02, 5 September 2006 (utc).
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! So did they accept the idea of doing a state funeral, because I want to watch it! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.50.79.110 ( talk • contribs) 16:53, 5 September 2006.
This article has a long list of references and seems well written. It doesn't seem too far off of being a featured article. I think in Steve's memory, we should work to that end.-- Daysleeper47 16:13, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
I removed a brief discussion on whether Irwin got what he deserved, that also involved a question about whether he attempted to touch the ray. It says in the article that he did not touch the ray, he accidentally boxed it in by swimming over it. Regardless, please don't post such discussions, as they aren't related to improving the article. If you want to read or discuss whether he got what he deserved, go to one of the millions of other sites covering this that allow that kind of chat.-- ▫Bad▫harlick♠ 09:39, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
hello everyone
please add this interwiki to the hebrew wikipedia: he:סטיב ארווין. thanks, 88.152.202.166 17:54, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
I've reviewed the nomination (expedited as requested) and awarded good article status. Recommend standardizing web page access dates in the footnotes. Otherwise, good work. I suggest nominating for FA after the media attention subsides and the page stabilizes. Regards, Durova 17:10, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
(See #Good Article nomination and #Feature Article above.) -- Addicted 17:19, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Recommend reconsideration: the stability criterion applies to edit warring rather than to ordinary high traffic. Topics in the news have received the designation before. Here I see no editorial conflict and recent events are adequately presented and referenced. I won't re-add the GA template myself, but would like to restate my support. Durova 17:33, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm taking this page off my watchlist... again... for the second time in two days. I'd appreciate a short talk message if anyone promotes to GA while the heavy editing is still ongoing (if it gets promoted in a week when everything's died down, then don't bother with the message). Thanks. – Ch acor 18:38, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Preventing promotion to good article on a highly-edited page is nonsensical. If the article is good, it's good, period. It doesn't matter that part of it happens to be documenting something which is still very much an ongoing incident attracting lots of attention. It's impossible for a subject to be current news and our coverage of it to be good. -- Cyde Weys 18:41, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
To improve the article, this point should be discussed. I see that Irwin "boxed' the animal in, but did he touch him(the ray)or try to touch him?-- 68.228.148.52 17:56, 5 September 2006 (UTC)