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I don't get it - I assume this means that the interval of a fourth is common in vocal parts, but maybe it means they tend to hover around the fourth note of the scale (eg the F in C minor). But whatever it means, is it really true? It's not something I've ever noticed in their music (but it's not something I've ever listened for, either). In any case, it certainly isn't true that the fourth is an uncommon interval in western music (but maybe something else is meant). So I'm a bit confused, altogether. -- Camembert
Maybe they mean harmonies a 4th apart? -- Tarquin
I didn't mean a leap of a 4th, I meant two part harmony with a 4th in between -- most western music uses 3rds, 6ths or octaves. (there's a 5th in the Siamese cats song in Aristocats... ;) having said that, it's still just speculation ... -- Tarquin 11:32 Dec 9, 2002 (UTC)
"I was just testing you"... are you sure you're not training to be a schoolteacher...? that was the trick they always tried to pull on me ;-) -- Tarquin
Yeah, Tarquin's got it. I don't really know the theory myself, but my mother does and she pointed out that observation. The original sentence is not all that clear, but I don't really feel confident to clarify it. But yeah, Tarquin got it. - Tubby
Sources on Mary's death:
Very sad. -- rbrwr
Most of these links are dead and need either updating or new links established. -Elysium
The EP section definitely has to be expanded. Stereolab has many more singles and EP's than what is listed. http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&searchlink=STEREOLAB&uid=CAW010603221547&sql=11:e91uakok5m3v~T22
Anyone want to help turn this into a GA/FA article? Stereolab being my favorite band, I have an inkling to do so, if I can dig up the time. - Merzbow 07:26, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
It's been a true pleasure watching you develop the article over the last month (from [1] to [2]). Thank you for the hard work and good example :) -- Quiddity 06:03, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
I've decided to redo the "Discography" session citing reliable sources (mostly All Music). In the near future expect to see it change a lot as I experiment with format. As part of this I've removed the cover art thumbnails because their use here is a violation of fair use guidelines - specifically, the guideline says that cover art is "not for identification without critical commentary". Since this article does not contain critical commentary on each album, it doesn't qualify. Further evidence for this interpretation is that none of the articles of bands that are featured articles have cover art thumbnails in their "Discography" sections. I know it looks better with the art, but if we ever want this article to achieve GA/FA, we need to abide by guidelines (which have been getting stricter lately as the Foundation has been limiting the scope of fair use - see this ANI thread). - Merzbow 05:17, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
Per consensus at Coldplay (where it has been debated extensively), Radiohead (a Featured Article), and other British bands, this article should refer to Stereolab as plural; ie, the article should read "Stereolab were an alternative music band ..." as it does presently. Per American and British English differences#Formal and notional agreement, it is legit to refer to a band as plural in British English. Furthermore, the article should remain internally consistent: if the introduction is changed from "were" to "was", the entire article should change accordingly. - M.Nelson ( talk) 04:10, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Unless someone is going to put up a <Warning: References to Marxism! ''Reading this article may foster Lenin/Trotskyist revolutionary inclinations, and render the reader open to ridicule.''> template, might I suggest that the reference to Marxist leanings in the lyrics (which, per the article, are not always very distinguishable) might be pared down to perhaps the mention in the lead and once elsewhere in the article? The contemporary music culture, especially the non chart orientated variants, of the UK and Europe are often fairly politically aware - even some charting artists are known for their political affiliations and references to them in their work. So, instead of the boy meets girl, boy loses girl, girl is abducted by aliens, boy finds true love with deciduous tree, scenario of most offerings (wha'? I happen to be a Siouxsie and the Banshees fan!) they make some social commentary? It happens quite often.
I sense, per the previous section noting the British use of the plural for bands not being apparent, that this article is chiefly by those of a US orientation, and they may have included a political bias that the band themselves - or their European fanbase - consider as unimportant. I realise that US sources might push that angle a bit, but then the need would be for UK/Europe references that refer either positively to that, or do not comment upon it when discussing their music. Cheers,
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Stereolab is on indefinite hiatus per their April 2009 announcement on their website. During a November 2010 radio interview (@ 37.45), in answer to the question "does [the] band still exist?" Tim Gane stated "No, [...] well, it's kind of on hold, in a jar or something like that" and goes on to explain that if new interesting ideas came along then Stereolab would resume. There has been no formal announcement that the group has ended. Rostz ( talk) 23:02, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
I hope no-one minds me raising this -- but was Mary Hansen's death accidental? I couldn't find any information about an inquest. I'm not suggesting that she was killed on purpose at all, but I feel the word 'accident' would be inappropriate if the lorry driver was found to be negligent in some way. Yaxu ( talk) 14:27, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
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Almost every written use of "band" or "group" was replaced with "Stereolab" in this diff - I'm tempted to revert half of these edits since the article looks like quite a mess now. -- Ilovetopaint ( talk) 15:06, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
Terms such as "The band" and "the group" tend to come off as being from a journalist's point of view. But feel free to reword it if you still think it's wrong. 100cellsman ( talk) 20:54, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
Admittedly I went a little overboard with the article, as I noticed tidbits that may not have been necessary to change. Overall, you can rework what you think I did wrong. And if you want I can give explanations about why I edited certain tidbits. 100cellsman ( talk) 21:08, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
I think the article is using too many sound-bytes, according to WP:SAMPLE. Partially my fault for including one for "Nihilist Assault Group". It should be a matter of discussion, but I was thinking of deleting "Ping-Pong" for example. I'm not sure how it's relevant when the lyrics are being explained. I do think "Motoroller Scalatron" is appropriate since you can hear the vocal techniques being used. These are just my thoughts. 100cellsman ( talk) 21:41, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi Ilovetopaint, has this particular citation style this article has at the moment become outdated? I've seen other articles in that format but what I've seen for the most part is the {cite x} style. Just wondering. 100cellsman ( talk) 13:14, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
As of 03/06/2019 Stereolab are now touring, so should be considered "is" a band rather than "was" a band. [1]
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I don't get it - I assume this means that the interval of a fourth is common in vocal parts, but maybe it means they tend to hover around the fourth note of the scale (eg the F in C minor). But whatever it means, is it really true? It's not something I've ever noticed in their music (but it's not something I've ever listened for, either). In any case, it certainly isn't true that the fourth is an uncommon interval in western music (but maybe something else is meant). So I'm a bit confused, altogether. -- Camembert
Maybe they mean harmonies a 4th apart? -- Tarquin
I didn't mean a leap of a 4th, I meant two part harmony with a 4th in between -- most western music uses 3rds, 6ths or octaves. (there's a 5th in the Siamese cats song in Aristocats... ;) having said that, it's still just speculation ... -- Tarquin 11:32 Dec 9, 2002 (UTC)
"I was just testing you"... are you sure you're not training to be a schoolteacher...? that was the trick they always tried to pull on me ;-) -- Tarquin
Yeah, Tarquin's got it. I don't really know the theory myself, but my mother does and she pointed out that observation. The original sentence is not all that clear, but I don't really feel confident to clarify it. But yeah, Tarquin got it. - Tubby
Sources on Mary's death:
Very sad. -- rbrwr
Most of these links are dead and need either updating or new links established. -Elysium
The EP section definitely has to be expanded. Stereolab has many more singles and EP's than what is listed. http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&searchlink=STEREOLAB&uid=CAW010603221547&sql=11:e91uakok5m3v~T22
Anyone want to help turn this into a GA/FA article? Stereolab being my favorite band, I have an inkling to do so, if I can dig up the time. - Merzbow 07:26, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
It's been a true pleasure watching you develop the article over the last month (from [1] to [2]). Thank you for the hard work and good example :) -- Quiddity 06:03, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
I've decided to redo the "Discography" session citing reliable sources (mostly All Music). In the near future expect to see it change a lot as I experiment with format. As part of this I've removed the cover art thumbnails because their use here is a violation of fair use guidelines - specifically, the guideline says that cover art is "not for identification without critical commentary". Since this article does not contain critical commentary on each album, it doesn't qualify. Further evidence for this interpretation is that none of the articles of bands that are featured articles have cover art thumbnails in their "Discography" sections. I know it looks better with the art, but if we ever want this article to achieve GA/FA, we need to abide by guidelines (which have been getting stricter lately as the Foundation has been limiting the scope of fair use - see this ANI thread). - Merzbow 05:17, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
Per consensus at Coldplay (where it has been debated extensively), Radiohead (a Featured Article), and other British bands, this article should refer to Stereolab as plural; ie, the article should read "Stereolab were an alternative music band ..." as it does presently. Per American and British English differences#Formal and notional agreement, it is legit to refer to a band as plural in British English. Furthermore, the article should remain internally consistent: if the introduction is changed from "were" to "was", the entire article should change accordingly. - M.Nelson ( talk) 04:10, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Unless someone is going to put up a <Warning: References to Marxism! ''Reading this article may foster Lenin/Trotskyist revolutionary inclinations, and render the reader open to ridicule.''> template, might I suggest that the reference to Marxist leanings in the lyrics (which, per the article, are not always very distinguishable) might be pared down to perhaps the mention in the lead and once elsewhere in the article? The contemporary music culture, especially the non chart orientated variants, of the UK and Europe are often fairly politically aware - even some charting artists are known for their political affiliations and references to them in their work. So, instead of the boy meets girl, boy loses girl, girl is abducted by aliens, boy finds true love with deciduous tree, scenario of most offerings (wha'? I happen to be a Siouxsie and the Banshees fan!) they make some social commentary? It happens quite often.
I sense, per the previous section noting the British use of the plural for bands not being apparent, that this article is chiefly by those of a US orientation, and they may have included a political bias that the band themselves - or their European fanbase - consider as unimportant. I realise that US sources might push that angle a bit, but then the need would be for UK/Europe references that refer either positively to that, or do not comment upon it when discussing their music. Cheers,
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Stereolab is on indefinite hiatus per their April 2009 announcement on their website. During a November 2010 radio interview (@ 37.45), in answer to the question "does [the] band still exist?" Tim Gane stated "No, [...] well, it's kind of on hold, in a jar or something like that" and goes on to explain that if new interesting ideas came along then Stereolab would resume. There has been no formal announcement that the group has ended. Rostz ( talk) 23:02, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
I hope no-one minds me raising this -- but was Mary Hansen's death accidental? I couldn't find any information about an inquest. I'm not suggesting that she was killed on purpose at all, but I feel the word 'accident' would be inappropriate if the lorry driver was found to be negligent in some way. Yaxu ( talk) 14:27, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
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Almost every written use of "band" or "group" was replaced with "Stereolab" in this diff - I'm tempted to revert half of these edits since the article looks like quite a mess now. -- Ilovetopaint ( talk) 15:06, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
Terms such as "The band" and "the group" tend to come off as being from a journalist's point of view. But feel free to reword it if you still think it's wrong. 100cellsman ( talk) 20:54, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
Admittedly I went a little overboard with the article, as I noticed tidbits that may not have been necessary to change. Overall, you can rework what you think I did wrong. And if you want I can give explanations about why I edited certain tidbits. 100cellsman ( talk) 21:08, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
I think the article is using too many sound-bytes, according to WP:SAMPLE. Partially my fault for including one for "Nihilist Assault Group". It should be a matter of discussion, but I was thinking of deleting "Ping-Pong" for example. I'm not sure how it's relevant when the lyrics are being explained. I do think "Motoroller Scalatron" is appropriate since you can hear the vocal techniques being used. These are just my thoughts. 100cellsman ( talk) 21:41, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi Ilovetopaint, has this particular citation style this article has at the moment become outdated? I've seen other articles in that format but what I've seen for the most part is the {cite x} style. Just wondering. 100cellsman ( talk) 13:14, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
As of 03/06/2019 Stereolab are now touring, so should be considered "is" a band rather than "was" a band. [1]
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