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A fact from Stephen Samuel Wise appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 25 October 2008 ( check views). A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2008/October. |
Japanese diplomat Sugihara offered Wise information regarding a faction/group of industrialists in the Japanese government who wanted Jewish settlers for Manchuria prior to the 2nd World War. Wise kicked Sugihara out of his office. Wise had more faith in the humanity of the US and UK (Christian Values). Ozdaren 11:29, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Where does this information come from? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.139.88.253 ( talk) 11:09, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
"Like most reform Rabbis, it is not likely that he understood the Talmud on even an elementary level. " -- YoavD 03:52, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
With proper sourcing this is a B class article. The only source is an old encyclopedia from 1906, which would mean most of the lifetime of this person would not be covered by that text. Aboutmovies 05:34, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
I am no fan of Stephen Wise, but the article really should state a bit more about his ideas. How can you have an article about him without mentioning the Free Synagogue?
I ran into this while researching the article on the Young Israel movement, which was founded by opponents of Stephen Wise, both Orthodox and Reform. (The former include my grandparents.) Reading the article, you would never know what it was that aroused such strong opposition.
Michael Zvi Krumbein ( talk) 06:49, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Managing editor of Vanity Fair and later an Esquire contributor, Helen Lawrenson wrote of a sexual encounter with Wise in her 1975 book Stranger at the Party. She describes how Wise had sex with her in his office on his conference table, and "quoted the verse from Psalms which Sabbateans did when engaged in sexual intercourse." The incident is mentioned in a Time article from 1975 (citing Lawrenson) although the Sabbatean angle is not mentioned there. This is also retold in David Morrison's 1999 book Heroes, Antiheroes And The Holocaust on page 217. __ meco ( talk) 13:53, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
The lead should say why this person is notable, and should include any notable controversy. As it's currently written, it doesn't explain why the article exists. SlimVirgin 20:06, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
This article lacks considerable notable content, particularly in the ‘Career and activism’ section concerning Wise’s long running quest for the success of Zionism. It does not note his, and AJ Cong’s, historic debate with the AJ Cmte, already included in the 1938 Time magazine ref. The article also does not mention Abba Hillel Silver’s ‘maximalist’ views so strongly opposed by Wise’s moderate approach, following the Biltmore Conference and the American Jewish Conference. This should particularly start in 1935 when Wise re-assumed Zionist leadership, following Brandeis’s “clash” with Weizmann and his previous withdrawal in 1921.
No one can say whether it is a matter of NPOV, or a half-truth restriction of an admittedly argumentative period, but notable, encyclopedic content is certainly missing in any case, per tags. CasualObserver'48 ( talk) 06:18, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
Stephen Wise couldn't have been a founder of NAACP in 1912. The organization was founded in 1909. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DavidwConnelly ( talk • contribs) 01:58, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
I've moved the following paragraph here for discussion:
In April 2010, Orthodox rabbi Ephraim Kestenbaum was quoted as recounting that his father, David Kestenbaum, a rabbi who had worked to save European Jews during the Holocaust, had been urged by Wise through him (Ephraim) to reduce his pressure on the American government, and that Wise had told him " Tell your father that he has to be an American and not to fight hard for Jews in Europe. You have to be an American first." Kestenbaum stated his belief that, but for Wise’s actions, President Roosevelt would have done more to save Jews in Europe.<ref>Yair Alpert, [http://matzav.com/rabbi-kestenbaum-speaks-of-astounding-misdeeds-of-reform-rabbi-stephen-wise-during-holocaust "Rabbi Kestenbaum: Jews Died During Holocaust Because of Reform Rabbi Stephen Wise"], Matsav.com, April 14, 2010.</ref>
This paragraph raised a number of obvious questions:
Please answer these questions. Jayjg (talk) 02:12, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
How comes the date is provided to be in August 1936? Was it not the case that conference in geneva was held in September 1933, straight after 18 Zionist Congress? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.139.88.253 ( talk) 11:12, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
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A fact from Stephen Samuel Wise appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 25 October 2008 ( check views). A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2008/October. |
Japanese diplomat Sugihara offered Wise information regarding a faction/group of industrialists in the Japanese government who wanted Jewish settlers for Manchuria prior to the 2nd World War. Wise kicked Sugihara out of his office. Wise had more faith in the humanity of the US and UK (Christian Values). Ozdaren 11:29, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Where does this information come from? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.139.88.253 ( talk) 11:09, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
"Like most reform Rabbis, it is not likely that he understood the Talmud on even an elementary level. " -- YoavD 03:52, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
With proper sourcing this is a B class article. The only source is an old encyclopedia from 1906, which would mean most of the lifetime of this person would not be covered by that text. Aboutmovies 05:34, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
I am no fan of Stephen Wise, but the article really should state a bit more about his ideas. How can you have an article about him without mentioning the Free Synagogue?
I ran into this while researching the article on the Young Israel movement, which was founded by opponents of Stephen Wise, both Orthodox and Reform. (The former include my grandparents.) Reading the article, you would never know what it was that aroused such strong opposition.
Michael Zvi Krumbein ( talk) 06:49, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Managing editor of Vanity Fair and later an Esquire contributor, Helen Lawrenson wrote of a sexual encounter with Wise in her 1975 book Stranger at the Party. She describes how Wise had sex with her in his office on his conference table, and "quoted the verse from Psalms which Sabbateans did when engaged in sexual intercourse." The incident is mentioned in a Time article from 1975 (citing Lawrenson) although the Sabbatean angle is not mentioned there. This is also retold in David Morrison's 1999 book Heroes, Antiheroes And The Holocaust on page 217. __ meco ( talk) 13:53, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
The lead should say why this person is notable, and should include any notable controversy. As it's currently written, it doesn't explain why the article exists. SlimVirgin 20:06, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
This article lacks considerable notable content, particularly in the ‘Career and activism’ section concerning Wise’s long running quest for the success of Zionism. It does not note his, and AJ Cong’s, historic debate with the AJ Cmte, already included in the 1938 Time magazine ref. The article also does not mention Abba Hillel Silver’s ‘maximalist’ views so strongly opposed by Wise’s moderate approach, following the Biltmore Conference and the American Jewish Conference. This should particularly start in 1935 when Wise re-assumed Zionist leadership, following Brandeis’s “clash” with Weizmann and his previous withdrawal in 1921.
No one can say whether it is a matter of NPOV, or a half-truth restriction of an admittedly argumentative period, but notable, encyclopedic content is certainly missing in any case, per tags. CasualObserver'48 ( talk) 06:18, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
Stephen Wise couldn't have been a founder of NAACP in 1912. The organization was founded in 1909. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DavidwConnelly ( talk • contribs) 01:58, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
I've moved the following paragraph here for discussion:
In April 2010, Orthodox rabbi Ephraim Kestenbaum was quoted as recounting that his father, David Kestenbaum, a rabbi who had worked to save European Jews during the Holocaust, had been urged by Wise through him (Ephraim) to reduce his pressure on the American government, and that Wise had told him " Tell your father that he has to be an American and not to fight hard for Jews in Europe. You have to be an American first." Kestenbaum stated his belief that, but for Wise’s actions, President Roosevelt would have done more to save Jews in Europe.<ref>Yair Alpert, [http://matzav.com/rabbi-kestenbaum-speaks-of-astounding-misdeeds-of-reform-rabbi-stephen-wise-during-holocaust "Rabbi Kestenbaum: Jews Died During Holocaust Because of Reform Rabbi Stephen Wise"], Matsav.com, April 14, 2010.</ref>
This paragraph raised a number of obvious questions:
Please answer these questions. Jayjg (talk) 02:12, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
How comes the date is provided to be in August 1936? Was it not the case that conference in geneva was held in September 1933, straight after 18 Zionist Congress? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.139.88.253 ( talk) 11:12, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
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