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IMHO, the PM departure date November 4, 2015, should be deleted or hidden, until Harper actually resigns as Prime Minister on that date. There's no need for premature edits here. GoodDay ( talk) 19:06, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
If there is a source that explicitly says that he will resign Prime Minister on a date, then we could do something. People are mistaking Justin Trudeau's planned swearing-in as Harper's own quitting date of the PM title. Hill Crest's WikiLaser! ( BOOM!) 23:24, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
It's not going to hurt anyone, to actually wait until Harper resigns, before adding the departure date. GoodDay ( talk) 04:29, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
[3] says that NOv 4 will be the day Justin becomes PM, as published by every serious media outlet in the country. Legacypac ( talk) 06:19, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
Harper's already in office, though. GoodDay ( talk) 20:40, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
GoodDay, he was not in office Feb 5, 2006, yet the info-box said he would take office Feb 6, 2006, which was still in the future, just as today Nov 4 is still in the future. [5] Mies there are only two reasons we would leave this information out of the info-box: (1) it is unimportant, (2) it is uncertain. Since Harper's main notability is being Canadian PM, it is important. And there is no doubt that Harper will follow convention and resign and that the governor will accept it. Yes I know there is nothing in law preventing Harper from remaining in office, but given Canada's parliamentary tradition, it will not happen. TFD ( talk) 23:00, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
We need some clarification here, folks. Did Harper resign as Conservative leader effective immediately on election night (Oct. 19, 2015), or does his resignation only take effect when an interim leader is chosen (Nov. 5, 2015). -- GoodDay ( talk) 20:28, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
This source seems to add to the confusion. It's calling Harper the outgoing leader & also former leader. GoodDay ( talk) 16:50, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
An edit I made today has been reverted twice ( 1, 2). I won't add it again because I have no interest in getting into an edit war but I would like to note that nowhere in WP:RS is there a policy that U.S. sources are unacceptable, and that a statement of fact from a reputable news organization like The New York Times is considered reliable enough for inclusion on Wikipedia. I can't find the CTV article that User:Legacypac makes reference to in the edit summary, but I don't think it necessarily contradicts the NYT statement – if the reporters were kept away from Rideau Hall during Harper's resignation, then indeed they had not arrived there to witness it. I reject the characterisation of the NYT statement as a "throwaway line" because it is somewhat specific and because, again, NYT is a reliable source. Altogether this is very weak rationale for stubbornly censoring a neutral and cited statement of fact. Citobun ( talk) 07:42, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Usually there is none. Day is about the new govt. Legacypac ( talk) 09:17, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
The section doesn't even refer to Harper and secondly it's hardly a defining decision of his leadership. Many countries do major changes to census. Suggest deleting the whole section. LibStar ( talk) 15:39, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
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This article states that Stephen Harper is "a member of the evangelical Christian and Missionary Alliance and attends church at the East Gate Alliance Church in Ottawa." I do not dispute this at all, but this sentence is supported only by only one reference that is 10 years old. Are there any more recent sources about Harper's religious beliefs? -- 1990'sguy ( talk) 20:14, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
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In the news today it was announced that he would be resigning as an MP this summer.
Also, should the dates as MP be corrected, currently shows a gap between the date of the election call and the date of the election. Was he not technically still the MP for the old riding up until election day? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.103.211.131 ( talk) 16:27, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
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Hello Graham11,
You have added many Weasel Words into the article. These include the "Use of the passive voice to avoid specifying an authority (e.g. "it is said")"
Sentences like "The CPC has been accused of...", "Some have alleged...", and "Some suggest..." and completely unacceptable. Who are these 'some'? Accused by whom? Wikipedia's Biographies of Living Persons policy has a section on 'Avoid gossip and feedback loops', that specifically instructs editors to immediately remove this type of contentious material.
Instead of a revert, can you perhaps specifically include (with at least 2 reliable sources) who is making these allegations, and a fair and balances response. Otherwise, leave them out. Ontario Teacher BFA BEd ( talk) 14:07, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
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Under Stephen Harper, the annual budget of Veterans Affairs Canada increased from $2.8 billion in 2005—2006 to $3.64 billion in 2014—2015, while the quantity of veterans served has declined from 219,152 in 2008-2009 to 199,154 in 2015. [1] [2] User:Patar knight you have misrepresented a Globe and Mail article which states "According to the Royal Bank’s inflation calculator, $3.20-billion in 2006 would be worth $3.72-billion in 2015. So, given that this year’s Veterans Affairs budget is $3.55-billion, the increases have not kept pace with inflation". The same article also states "The annual budget of Veterans Affairs Canada increased from $2.85-billion in 2005-06". [3] The article argues that since the initial increase from $2,853.1 (2005-2006) to $3,202.8 (2006-2007), the subsequent increases have been at around inflation. However, since taking office, the CPC has increased the VAC budget in real dollars after all since the inflation calculation in the article was made from the 2007 numbers (after the initial large budget increase under PM Harper) instead of the 2006 (when Mr. Harper took office). Also, for most accurate numbers, please use the primary source (VAC) instead of secondary sources. Ontario Teacher BFA BEd ( talk) 05:43, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
You have stated "Under Stephen Harper, the annual budget of Veterans Affairs Canada increased from $2.85 billion in 2005—2006 to $3.55 billion in 2014—2015 in absolute terms, but in real terms the department has less funding than before because increases have not kept pace with inflation". [3] However, the source does not say this at all!
The Globe and Mail article states: "The annual budget of Veterans Affairs Canada increased from $2.85-billion in 2005-06, the year before Mr. Harper’s Conservatives were first elected to power, to $3.55-billion in 2015-16... when the Conservatives took office, they followed through with that commitment in their first budget, increasing the money to Veterans Affairs by $349.7-million to $3.20-billion in 2006-07... According to the Royal Bank’s inflation calculator, $3.20-billion in 2006 would be worth $3.72-billion in 2015. So, given that this year’s Veterans Affairs budget is $3.55-billion, the increases have not kept pace with inflation".
You have mistakenly overlooked the initial $349.7-million increase from PM Harper's first year in office! Please review the source prior to editing the article.
I have however, for now. used the Globe and Mail editorial numbers. They are pretty close to the VAC numbers. I will double check other sourced to verify the discrepancy. Ontario Teacher BFA BEd ( talk) 21:38, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
"The Government of Canada has implemented new flexible payment options for disability awards. These options are:
a lump-sum payment; an annual installment over the number of years of a Veteran's choosing; or a combination of these two payment options." [4]
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The Environmental Policy section previously stated "Since 2006, the Canadian Conservative Party government led by Prime Minister Stephen Harper has adopted few and gutted many environmental laws and policies dealing with rising greenhouse emissions, pollution problems and climate change". The only source for this statement was from the budget analysis of the Green Party of Canada-- a rival political party, and can therefore not be considered impartial. In order to preserve Wikipedia's Wikipedia:Neutral point of view policy, the section had been amended to specify the source of the criticism of the CPC's environmental record. The greenhouse gas emissions levels graphed by Environment Canada during the tenure of the CPC has also been added to provide objective data on the environmental record of the CPC. The term "Conservatives" has been replaced by "the Conservative Party of Canada" to specify that the information is directed towards Canada's federal conservative political party as opposed to conservative Canadians in general. The 'silencing scientists' assertion made by the NY Times requires more substantial sources that specifically detail what legislation has been passed to 'silence scientists'. Moreover, if environmental regulations have been cut by the CPC, provide specific sourced examples. The sources themselves must not simply be editorial articles that also fail to include any specific details. Please post any feedback or concerns to the talk section. Review the guidelines of Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons especially in regards to tone prior to posting.
The 'silencing scientist' section has been removed. This was a criticism made by the NY Times in an editorial article. It mentioned that Mr. Harper has been accused of silencing scientists. However, the NY Times editorial article did not specify who was accusing Prime Minister Harper of silencing scientists, nor did it give any specific examples of any scientists who were allegedly silenced.
The GPC's criticism of Prime Minister Harper's environmental record has been removed. The only source was a dead-link. Criticism made by opposition parties could be considered relevant to the WP article, but only if the criticisms are sourced and specific. Even then, criticisms made by opposition parties might be better suited for the Environmental policy of Canada page.
The National Post article cites the elimination of a seven-member team, saving the government $600,000 per year. Could this specific spending cut have been offset by a spending increase in other areas of Environment Canada? There is no mention of the overall spending towards Environmental Canada from 2006 to present. This section should be replaced by the annual budget change (increase of decrease) of Environment Canada from 2006 to present. Ontario Teacher BFA BEd ( talk) 09:09, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
Why does it say Quebec's cap and trade system has helped to lower emissions? The program only started this year and any emissions data has a two-three year lag? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.171.38.192 ( talk) 03:05, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
While the Lower Churchill Project will not be finished until 2017, this still falls under the scope of the Environmental Policy of the CPC. Hydroelectricity is a cornerstone of the CPC's environmental policy. The federal loan guarantee was a campaign issue during the 2011 general election. When completed, the the Lower Churchill's two installations at Gull Island and Muskrat Falls will have a combined capacity of over 3,074 MW and have the ability to provide 16.7 TWh of electricity per year. [1] This is roughly 50% more than the Hoover Dam, and will be the fourth largest hydroelectricity facility in North America! Its inclusion in the article, like 'Canada's Clean Air and Climate Change Act' is essential.
The silencing scientist accusation, while sourced, does not specify which scientists are allegedly being silenced nor in which way. Until this can be verified by concrete examples, it must be removed. Similarly, the budget cut accusation to Environment Canada does not have any specifics. For example, did the budget increase dramatically, and then dip slightly under the CPC for a net gain? Until solid numbers are put forth, this must be removed.
Federal funds for public transit expansion also falls under the scope of Environmental policy. In September 2013, former finance minister Jim Flaherty announced a federal contribution of $660 million towards the public transit expansion project. [2]
For ease of reading, the Environmental Policy section will be split into two paragraphs: measures which have already taken affect, and those which are either recently established/currently underway/ will be underway in the near future. Ontario Teacher BFA BEd ( talk) 20:46, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for pointing out that the Lower Churchill Project and the Scarborough subway extensions have not yet been completed. As you requested, I added another source to the Lower Churchill Project. I hope you would agree that renewable energy and public transit fall within the scope of an Environmental Policy. As you know, all public transit expansions and large scale renewable energy initiatives take years to complete. However the actual date of completion is irrelevant. It is when the government provided funding for the project(s) which is important. More specifically, which budget did the funding come from. Otherwise, you would be giving credit/putting blame on subsequent governments for past governments' spending. I hope you would agree that the environmental policy of a government should be assessed by its budgets as opposed to the budgets of previous administrations.
Thank you for pointing out the that Clean Air Act never became law. However, the Clean Air Regulatory Agenda was implemented. [3] This put strict emission standards on automobiles and light trucks. [4]
I have restored the 'silencing scientist' accusation for now. Although, to be fair, the article would benefit from a response from an environment minister (past or present) towards the accusation. This is why I have included a response by former Environment Minister Peter Kent towards the withdraw from the Kyoto protocol. In order to preserve WP's net neutrality, it would be prudent to avoid portraying this withdrawal as 'good' or 'bad'.
Prior to claiming that the overall (net) Environment Canada budget has been cut, perhaps take a look at the Environment Canada webpage https://www.ec.gc.ca/default.asp?lang=En&n=31D9FF32-1 and compare funding levels over the past 3 budgets.
Lastly, thank you for maintaining civility in our discussions. I appreciate your professionalism and respect. Ontario Teacher BFA BEd ( talk) 07:11, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Please explain what specific areas of the article you disagree with. Feel free to edit the tone of the article if required. Do not removed sourced content (such as renewable energy, public transit, or government regulations) without first attempting to reach a consensus on the talk page. Ontario Teacher BFA BEd ( talk) 07:40, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
User:NeilN, My inclusion of the Lower Churchill project in the article in particular was thanked by User:Ntb613 on (13 Oct 2015). Please explain to me why you feel public transit, renewable energy, and government regulations are unnecessary for an environmental policy section. In terms of tone, I removed the potentially biased tone for the Kyoto Protocol section, and replaced it with more neutral language. Please note, I left the Kyoto Protocol section intact. Had I been seeking a POV, I might have removed this section completely, or added biased language in the opposite direction. Ontario Teacher BFA BEd ( talk) 07:55, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Anyone else agree with Ontario Teacher BFA BEd's changes? -- NeilN talk to me 22:33, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
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You have recently removed a sourced section on public transit and renewable energy under speculation that these projects may all be cancelled or that the federal government will withdraw its funding. Please provide sources that state that the York-University-Spadina subway extension, the Scarborough Subway extension, or the Lower Churchill Project will be cancelled.
If, of course, the current federal government withdraws its funding, we could add a sentence stating the project(s) was/were cancelled by a subsequent government. Ontario Teacher BFA BEd ( talk) 04:14, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
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Change "Stephen Harper and former CFL player Larry Smith watched a 2012 football game in Montreal." to "Stephen Harper and former CFL player Larry Smith watching a 2012 football game in Montreal." Simple grammar. 69.165.196.103 ( talk) 00:37, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
Will keep going here - again what seems like simple wording. Change "Harper at 2015 G-7 summit with [...] in Bavaria, Germany." to "Harper at the 2015 G-7 summit with [...] in Bavaria, Germany." Maybe also check all images captions just to make sure. 69.165.196.103 ( talk) 17:43, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
And a final one. "Stephen Harper gives a victory speech to party faithful in Calgary after his Conservatives won the 2006 federal election." to, respectively "giving", "members", "the". 69.165.196.103 ( talk) 11:35, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
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Someone posted an unnecessary lengthy, and extremely biased paragraph about transparency. It looks like a vicious attack article one would find in a tabloid magazine. I believe this paragraph is should either be removed or significantly reworded. AstronautPants ( talk) 20:05, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
We need a section on Mr Harpers date of birth controversy. Indeed, numerous media reports and at least two published books on Harper and the Conservative movement peg the date as April 20.See for example The Pilgrimage of Stephen Harper, by former Ottawa journalist Lloyd Mackey,which reads: "April 20, 1959 is the exact date that Margaret Harper gave birth to little Stephen Joseph in Toronto.". or Full Circle: Death and Resurrection in Canadian Conservative Politics (2006) by Bob Plamondon.
Many believe that a Wikipedia editor from Detroit, Mich., area edited Harper’s page and changed the date from the 20th to 30th to quash any attempt to tie Harper with Hitler whose birthday was on April 30th. (See: Here and Here) Jasonhaley ( talk) 04:07, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
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In the Honours section it says "Right Honourable Stephen Harper was be awarded the medal" when proper grammar would be that he "was awarded" the medal. Anoplocis ( talk) 13:52, 16 January 2018 (UTC) Anoplocis ( talk) 13:52, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
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Revome the reference to Harper being an “economist” in the first line of his bio. Although he studied economics and has his masters; the generally accepted criteria for calling oneself an economist is to have your PhD and to have actually been employed as an economist. Harper possesses neither of these requirements. Frankenstein67 ( talk) 19:10, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
If the definition of an economist is a person who works in the field of economics, then my initial request still holds true as Mr. Harper has never held a position in the field and therefore should not be referred to as an economist. As for the request to provide an authoritative source; will “The Economist” magazine do? How do I go about submitting the source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mediatech492 ( talk • contribs) 22:57, 03 April 2018 (UTC)
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In the "Education" section of Stephan Harper, it states he enrolled and dropped out of The University of Toronto two months later, when in fact it was Trinity College, Toronto. Jimhabsfan ( talk) 09:24, 9 July 2018 (UTC) Jimhabsfan ( talk) 09:24, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
There is enough information on his debacle insisting that there isn't a recession when the country was in fact in recession was to add a full section on this.
This information should be researched and noted in this Wikipedia article: When the United States plummeted into a deep recession in 2008 he kept saying that Canada is not in a recession. Canada did not plunge right away into the recession, but it did follow the recession, like most counties.
This one time "economist" kept insisting that Canada was not in a recession when in fact it was in recession or was slipping into recession. He did this between 2008-2012 or longer. He was not called out on it.
How can an "economist" as they say he has a work/education background in, say that, when even the average person knows that when the U.S goes into a recession, Canada automatically follows into onto a recession. Its just common sense. The U.S cannot go into a recession without Canada, one way or another not following. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/01/stephen-harper-refuses-admit-canada-recession
https://ipolitics.ca/2015/04/19/no-matter-how-you-add-it-up-harpers-fiscal-record-is-a-catastrophe/
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He insisted on having the G20 Summit right in Downtown Toronto, in a extremely congested area central and tourist area. This would be similar to having it in Manhattan, or Downtown areas of Chicago. An extreme amount of money was spent to secure the area and provide policing, heading up to the event and during the even. And this was from a conservative leader. And conservatives are supposedly concerned with saving money. Yet he hosted it in Downtown Toronto.
/info/en/?search=2010_G20_Toronto_summit selected inf oration pieces.
"The creation of the $23-million international media centre, which included the $1.9 million Experience Canada pavilion and $57,000 artificial lake, at the Exhibition Place was widely opposed and criticized by politicians as "a waste of taxpayers' money."[120] Criticism mainly targeted Stephen Harper and Canada's Conservative government. Some protesting groups gave names to the artificial lake, such as "Harper's Folly"."
"Members of Parliament Olivia Chow and Mark Holland labelled the initially claimed budget of $1.1-billion for hosting the summits as "obscene" and "insane" while others argued that the money could have been used for long-pending municipal projects in Canada,[115][116] such as Transit City.[117] The security cost for the two summits was believed to be more expensive than the combined security costs of the 2010 Winter Olympics and Paralympics in Vancouver and Whistler, British Columbia, which were $878 million.[116]"
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Compiling a list of reliable sources to confirm/deny whether the phrase in the lead of the article, "Stephen Harper is a Canadian economist" is accurate based on Wikipedia criteria: Oceanflynn ( talk) 15:33, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
There are over 227 pages in the Wikipedia category Canadian economists, including Robert Rabinovitch. The lead for many of these people, refer to them as economists in the lead, only when they work professionally in academia as economists, with organizations such as the OECD, the Economic Council of Canada, have numerous publications about the economy. For example, " Robert Rabinovitch" as is a Canadian public servant and businessman". His PhD in economics) is not mentioned in the lead but in the Biography section. Others listed in the category Canadian economists, are referred to in the lead as Professors, not as economists. Oceanflynn ( talk) 16:20, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
McGill University Economics professor, William Watson wrote in an email to the Ottawa Citizen, said "Harper’s MA in economics means he can use the label 'trained as an economist.' He added that, "The market will decide whether you are really an economist or not." [1]
Paul Jacobson, president of the Canadian Association for Business Economics's president Paul Jacobson said, "I don’t think anybody could call [Harper] a professional economist". [1]
John Ibbitson, author of the 2015 book Stephen Harper wrote that Harper's 1991 master’s thesis, which took him 6 years to complete, "is a fine dissertation that would have made a solid foundation for launching a PhD dissertation on a similar topic" but "by the time he had finished, it was clear he would never take a crack at a doctorate". [2]: 55
According to Stephen Tapp in his June 27, 2014 article published in Policy Options by the Institute for Research on Public Policy, in response to media attention in 2014 regarding Harper's description as 'an economist', "Those people who know (the real economists), know when those who don’t know (the charlatans) don’t know what they’re talking about. Now if only our media " who work under tight deadlines on complex issues " could tell the difference between the two." [3]
In a June 20, 2014 article published in the The Telegram, Brian Jones wrote that Harper cannot be described as 'an economist'. [4] [5]
A 2007 article in The Economist, stated that Unlike membership in the American Medical Association", where "there exists clear education requirements", "[N]o such conditions are required to be called an economist or join the American Economic Association...The years of graduate-school seminars and rigorous mathematical training empowers PhD economists to converse with each other in a language all our own. This allows us to continue to believe that our years of education were worthwhile because we can recognize each other and sneer at the impostors. In the mean time, the rest of the world takes thoughtful advice and opinions from people who sometimes, while not having our illustrious pedigree, also have some very good ideas—and sometimes better ones." [6]
The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics wrote in 2018 that "Most economists need a master’s degree or Ph.D. However, some entry-level jobs—primarily in the federal government—are available for workers with a bachelor’s degree." [7]
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Harper's 1991 master's thesis, which took him 6 years to complete, "is a fine dissertation that would have made a solid foundation for launching a PhD dissertation on a similar topic" but "by the time he had finished, it was clear he would never take a crack at a doctorate".
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It is an exaggeration to claim that he as economist based solely on these criteria. Not every Prime Minister is called an economist because they handle economic policy. And having a Masters degree does not make you an economist, just as having a Masters in chemistry doesn't make you a chemist unless you work as one doing actual chemistry. Harper never worked as an economist and it also doesn't add much to this page to cite him as one--his contributions to the field were insignificant and his accomplishments as PM far overshadow any actual research he did in economics. It should be removed as it misrepresents his career and dilutes the meaning of "economist".-- WaldorfPastorius ( talk) 20:47, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
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I would like to do editing and make Wikipedia more trusted and esteemed since many people edit and put incorrect information there. 70.79.169.230 ( talk) 18:00, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
I find it pretty strange the way this article lays out specific policy issues. On most pages, the main sections listed are very major events, like elections and holding the office itself with policies listed under. (Examples: Barack Obama, Paul Martin, Jean Chrétien, Jack Layton. Anyone have any objections if I reorganize this article to match? WildComet ( talk) 05:34, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
That statement about serving for nearly a decade seems redundant to me, since it's in the same sentence as his start and end years. Randusk restored it, saying: "Have to restore this because there was consensus to include that line in the lead a while ago. Other changes should be discussed before being made." I've looked for that discussion on this page and two pages of archives, and haven't found it. I could just be missing it; my search skills aren't the best. Nonetheless, could you please point us to that discussion? Thanks. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz ( talk) 03:23, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
I'm not sure why Stephen Harper's image on the article was updated. As far as I know, the previously image File:Stephen-Harper-Cropped-2014-02-18.jpg should be used as it is from a time where Harper was Prime Minister, thus making it a more important image. MogasTheThird ( talk) 15:12, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
For the infobox pic, I put a photo with the blue background. Now it's a grey background. What's the point of changing it exactly? Ak-eater06 ( talk) 04:02, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
Need input here in the discussion of Talk:Domestic policy of the Stephen Harper government#Merger proposal.
Merge Economic policy of the Stephen Harper government and Environmental policy of the Stephen Harper government into Domestic policy of the Stephen Harper government. I'd argue that it's better to be organized and have only two seperate articles rather than four. Both economic policy and environmental policy are pretty short too so it won't really do much harm if we add them to domestic policy.
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Pinging @ Ak-eater06: I moved the sentence into another section of the lead because I felt it was out of place to include there. Usually, the first paragraph MOS:LEADBIO focuses on the main reason the subject is notable. In this case, it's being the PM and leading the CPC. I don't think Harper being the second longest PM from a right of centre party meets the criteria. It's certainly worth a reference to elsewhere, which is why I moved it to the section of the lead that discusses the end of his tenure, where it feels more appropriate. —WildComet talk 16:50, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
I would say it is a notable point, in the context of Canadian federal politics : it’s a reflection of the unusual dominance of the Liberal Party that it took over a century for a conservative pm to come even close to matching MacDonald’s tenure. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz ( talk) 17:50, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
I think he's notable enough, as the first and only prime minister from the CPC. GoodDay ( talk) 15:32, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
Consensus is deadlocked. Might as well open an RfC for this. Ak-eater06 ( talk) 04:01, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
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IMHO, the PM departure date November 4, 2015, should be deleted or hidden, until Harper actually resigns as Prime Minister on that date. There's no need for premature edits here. GoodDay ( talk) 19:06, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
If there is a source that explicitly says that he will resign Prime Minister on a date, then we could do something. People are mistaking Justin Trudeau's planned swearing-in as Harper's own quitting date of the PM title. Hill Crest's WikiLaser! ( BOOM!) 23:24, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
It's not going to hurt anyone, to actually wait until Harper resigns, before adding the departure date. GoodDay ( talk) 04:29, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
[3] says that NOv 4 will be the day Justin becomes PM, as published by every serious media outlet in the country. Legacypac ( talk) 06:19, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
Harper's already in office, though. GoodDay ( talk) 20:40, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
GoodDay, he was not in office Feb 5, 2006, yet the info-box said he would take office Feb 6, 2006, which was still in the future, just as today Nov 4 is still in the future. [5] Mies there are only two reasons we would leave this information out of the info-box: (1) it is unimportant, (2) it is uncertain. Since Harper's main notability is being Canadian PM, it is important. And there is no doubt that Harper will follow convention and resign and that the governor will accept it. Yes I know there is nothing in law preventing Harper from remaining in office, but given Canada's parliamentary tradition, it will not happen. TFD ( talk) 23:00, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
We need some clarification here, folks. Did Harper resign as Conservative leader effective immediately on election night (Oct. 19, 2015), or does his resignation only take effect when an interim leader is chosen (Nov. 5, 2015). -- GoodDay ( talk) 20:28, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
This source seems to add to the confusion. It's calling Harper the outgoing leader & also former leader. GoodDay ( talk) 16:50, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
An edit I made today has been reverted twice ( 1, 2). I won't add it again because I have no interest in getting into an edit war but I would like to note that nowhere in WP:RS is there a policy that U.S. sources are unacceptable, and that a statement of fact from a reputable news organization like The New York Times is considered reliable enough for inclusion on Wikipedia. I can't find the CTV article that User:Legacypac makes reference to in the edit summary, but I don't think it necessarily contradicts the NYT statement – if the reporters were kept away from Rideau Hall during Harper's resignation, then indeed they had not arrived there to witness it. I reject the characterisation of the NYT statement as a "throwaway line" because it is somewhat specific and because, again, NYT is a reliable source. Altogether this is very weak rationale for stubbornly censoring a neutral and cited statement of fact. Citobun ( talk) 07:42, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Usually there is none. Day is about the new govt. Legacypac ( talk) 09:17, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
The section doesn't even refer to Harper and secondly it's hardly a defining decision of his leadership. Many countries do major changes to census. Suggest deleting the whole section. LibStar ( talk) 15:39, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
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This article states that Stephen Harper is "a member of the evangelical Christian and Missionary Alliance and attends church at the East Gate Alliance Church in Ottawa." I do not dispute this at all, but this sentence is supported only by only one reference that is 10 years old. Are there any more recent sources about Harper's religious beliefs? -- 1990'sguy ( talk) 20:14, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
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In the news today it was announced that he would be resigning as an MP this summer.
Also, should the dates as MP be corrected, currently shows a gap between the date of the election call and the date of the election. Was he not technically still the MP for the old riding up until election day? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.103.211.131 ( talk) 16:27, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
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Hello Graham11,
You have added many Weasel Words into the article. These include the "Use of the passive voice to avoid specifying an authority (e.g. "it is said")"
Sentences like "The CPC has been accused of...", "Some have alleged...", and "Some suggest..." and completely unacceptable. Who are these 'some'? Accused by whom? Wikipedia's Biographies of Living Persons policy has a section on 'Avoid gossip and feedback loops', that specifically instructs editors to immediately remove this type of contentious material.
Instead of a revert, can you perhaps specifically include (with at least 2 reliable sources) who is making these allegations, and a fair and balances response. Otherwise, leave them out. Ontario Teacher BFA BEd ( talk) 14:07, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
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Under Stephen Harper, the annual budget of Veterans Affairs Canada increased from $2.8 billion in 2005—2006 to $3.64 billion in 2014—2015, while the quantity of veterans served has declined from 219,152 in 2008-2009 to 199,154 in 2015. [1] [2] User:Patar knight you have misrepresented a Globe and Mail article which states "According to the Royal Bank’s inflation calculator, $3.20-billion in 2006 would be worth $3.72-billion in 2015. So, given that this year’s Veterans Affairs budget is $3.55-billion, the increases have not kept pace with inflation". The same article also states "The annual budget of Veterans Affairs Canada increased from $2.85-billion in 2005-06". [3] The article argues that since the initial increase from $2,853.1 (2005-2006) to $3,202.8 (2006-2007), the subsequent increases have been at around inflation. However, since taking office, the CPC has increased the VAC budget in real dollars after all since the inflation calculation in the article was made from the 2007 numbers (after the initial large budget increase under PM Harper) instead of the 2006 (when Mr. Harper took office). Also, for most accurate numbers, please use the primary source (VAC) instead of secondary sources. Ontario Teacher BFA BEd ( talk) 05:43, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
You have stated "Under Stephen Harper, the annual budget of Veterans Affairs Canada increased from $2.85 billion in 2005—2006 to $3.55 billion in 2014—2015 in absolute terms, but in real terms the department has less funding than before because increases have not kept pace with inflation". [3] However, the source does not say this at all!
The Globe and Mail article states: "The annual budget of Veterans Affairs Canada increased from $2.85-billion in 2005-06, the year before Mr. Harper’s Conservatives were first elected to power, to $3.55-billion in 2015-16... when the Conservatives took office, they followed through with that commitment in their first budget, increasing the money to Veterans Affairs by $349.7-million to $3.20-billion in 2006-07... According to the Royal Bank’s inflation calculator, $3.20-billion in 2006 would be worth $3.72-billion in 2015. So, given that this year’s Veterans Affairs budget is $3.55-billion, the increases have not kept pace with inflation".
You have mistakenly overlooked the initial $349.7-million increase from PM Harper's first year in office! Please review the source prior to editing the article.
I have however, for now. used the Globe and Mail editorial numbers. They are pretty close to the VAC numbers. I will double check other sourced to verify the discrepancy. Ontario Teacher BFA BEd ( talk) 21:38, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
"The Government of Canada has implemented new flexible payment options for disability awards. These options are:
a lump-sum payment; an annual installment over the number of years of a Veteran's choosing; or a combination of these two payment options." [4]
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The Environmental Policy section previously stated "Since 2006, the Canadian Conservative Party government led by Prime Minister Stephen Harper has adopted few and gutted many environmental laws and policies dealing with rising greenhouse emissions, pollution problems and climate change". The only source for this statement was from the budget analysis of the Green Party of Canada-- a rival political party, and can therefore not be considered impartial. In order to preserve Wikipedia's Wikipedia:Neutral point of view policy, the section had been amended to specify the source of the criticism of the CPC's environmental record. The greenhouse gas emissions levels graphed by Environment Canada during the tenure of the CPC has also been added to provide objective data on the environmental record of the CPC. The term "Conservatives" has been replaced by "the Conservative Party of Canada" to specify that the information is directed towards Canada's federal conservative political party as opposed to conservative Canadians in general. The 'silencing scientists' assertion made by the NY Times requires more substantial sources that specifically detail what legislation has been passed to 'silence scientists'. Moreover, if environmental regulations have been cut by the CPC, provide specific sourced examples. The sources themselves must not simply be editorial articles that also fail to include any specific details. Please post any feedback or concerns to the talk section. Review the guidelines of Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons especially in regards to tone prior to posting.
The 'silencing scientist' section has been removed. This was a criticism made by the NY Times in an editorial article. It mentioned that Mr. Harper has been accused of silencing scientists. However, the NY Times editorial article did not specify who was accusing Prime Minister Harper of silencing scientists, nor did it give any specific examples of any scientists who were allegedly silenced.
The GPC's criticism of Prime Minister Harper's environmental record has been removed. The only source was a dead-link. Criticism made by opposition parties could be considered relevant to the WP article, but only if the criticisms are sourced and specific. Even then, criticisms made by opposition parties might be better suited for the Environmental policy of Canada page.
The National Post article cites the elimination of a seven-member team, saving the government $600,000 per year. Could this specific spending cut have been offset by a spending increase in other areas of Environment Canada? There is no mention of the overall spending towards Environmental Canada from 2006 to present. This section should be replaced by the annual budget change (increase of decrease) of Environment Canada from 2006 to present. Ontario Teacher BFA BEd ( talk) 09:09, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
Why does it say Quebec's cap and trade system has helped to lower emissions? The program only started this year and any emissions data has a two-three year lag? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.171.38.192 ( talk) 03:05, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
While the Lower Churchill Project will not be finished until 2017, this still falls under the scope of the Environmental Policy of the CPC. Hydroelectricity is a cornerstone of the CPC's environmental policy. The federal loan guarantee was a campaign issue during the 2011 general election. When completed, the the Lower Churchill's two installations at Gull Island and Muskrat Falls will have a combined capacity of over 3,074 MW and have the ability to provide 16.7 TWh of electricity per year. [1] This is roughly 50% more than the Hoover Dam, and will be the fourth largest hydroelectricity facility in North America! Its inclusion in the article, like 'Canada's Clean Air and Climate Change Act' is essential.
The silencing scientist accusation, while sourced, does not specify which scientists are allegedly being silenced nor in which way. Until this can be verified by concrete examples, it must be removed. Similarly, the budget cut accusation to Environment Canada does not have any specifics. For example, did the budget increase dramatically, and then dip slightly under the CPC for a net gain? Until solid numbers are put forth, this must be removed.
Federal funds for public transit expansion also falls under the scope of Environmental policy. In September 2013, former finance minister Jim Flaherty announced a federal contribution of $660 million towards the public transit expansion project. [2]
For ease of reading, the Environmental Policy section will be split into two paragraphs: measures which have already taken affect, and those which are either recently established/currently underway/ will be underway in the near future. Ontario Teacher BFA BEd ( talk) 20:46, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for pointing out that the Lower Churchill Project and the Scarborough subway extensions have not yet been completed. As you requested, I added another source to the Lower Churchill Project. I hope you would agree that renewable energy and public transit fall within the scope of an Environmental Policy. As you know, all public transit expansions and large scale renewable energy initiatives take years to complete. However the actual date of completion is irrelevant. It is when the government provided funding for the project(s) which is important. More specifically, which budget did the funding come from. Otherwise, you would be giving credit/putting blame on subsequent governments for past governments' spending. I hope you would agree that the environmental policy of a government should be assessed by its budgets as opposed to the budgets of previous administrations.
Thank you for pointing out the that Clean Air Act never became law. However, the Clean Air Regulatory Agenda was implemented. [3] This put strict emission standards on automobiles and light trucks. [4]
I have restored the 'silencing scientist' accusation for now. Although, to be fair, the article would benefit from a response from an environment minister (past or present) towards the accusation. This is why I have included a response by former Environment Minister Peter Kent towards the withdraw from the Kyoto protocol. In order to preserve WP's net neutrality, it would be prudent to avoid portraying this withdrawal as 'good' or 'bad'.
Prior to claiming that the overall (net) Environment Canada budget has been cut, perhaps take a look at the Environment Canada webpage https://www.ec.gc.ca/default.asp?lang=En&n=31D9FF32-1 and compare funding levels over the past 3 budgets.
Lastly, thank you for maintaining civility in our discussions. I appreciate your professionalism and respect. Ontario Teacher BFA BEd ( talk) 07:11, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Please explain what specific areas of the article you disagree with. Feel free to edit the tone of the article if required. Do not removed sourced content (such as renewable energy, public transit, or government regulations) without first attempting to reach a consensus on the talk page. Ontario Teacher BFA BEd ( talk) 07:40, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
User:NeilN, My inclusion of the Lower Churchill project in the article in particular was thanked by User:Ntb613 on (13 Oct 2015). Please explain to me why you feel public transit, renewable energy, and government regulations are unnecessary for an environmental policy section. In terms of tone, I removed the potentially biased tone for the Kyoto Protocol section, and replaced it with more neutral language. Please note, I left the Kyoto Protocol section intact. Had I been seeking a POV, I might have removed this section completely, or added biased language in the opposite direction. Ontario Teacher BFA BEd ( talk) 07:55, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Anyone else agree with Ontario Teacher BFA BEd's changes? -- NeilN talk to me 22:33, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
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If, of course, the current federal government withdraws its funding, we could add a sentence stating the project(s) was/were cancelled by a subsequent government. Ontario Teacher BFA BEd ( talk) 04:14, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
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Change "Stephen Harper and former CFL player Larry Smith watched a 2012 football game in Montreal." to "Stephen Harper and former CFL player Larry Smith watching a 2012 football game in Montreal." Simple grammar. 69.165.196.103 ( talk) 00:37, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
Will keep going here - again what seems like simple wording. Change "Harper at 2015 G-7 summit with [...] in Bavaria, Germany." to "Harper at the 2015 G-7 summit with [...] in Bavaria, Germany." Maybe also check all images captions just to make sure. 69.165.196.103 ( talk) 17:43, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
And a final one. "Stephen Harper gives a victory speech to party faithful in Calgary after his Conservatives won the 2006 federal election." to, respectively "giving", "members", "the". 69.165.196.103 ( talk) 11:35, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
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Someone posted an unnecessary lengthy, and extremely biased paragraph about transparency. It looks like a vicious attack article one would find in a tabloid magazine. I believe this paragraph is should either be removed or significantly reworded. AstronautPants ( talk) 20:05, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
We need a section on Mr Harpers date of birth controversy. Indeed, numerous media reports and at least two published books on Harper and the Conservative movement peg the date as April 20.See for example The Pilgrimage of Stephen Harper, by former Ottawa journalist Lloyd Mackey,which reads: "April 20, 1959 is the exact date that Margaret Harper gave birth to little Stephen Joseph in Toronto.". or Full Circle: Death and Resurrection in Canadian Conservative Politics (2006) by Bob Plamondon.
Many believe that a Wikipedia editor from Detroit, Mich., area edited Harper’s page and changed the date from the 20th to 30th to quash any attempt to tie Harper with Hitler whose birthday was on April 30th. (See: Here and Here) Jasonhaley ( talk) 04:07, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
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In the Honours section it says "Right Honourable Stephen Harper was be awarded the medal" when proper grammar would be that he "was awarded" the medal. Anoplocis ( talk) 13:52, 16 January 2018 (UTC) Anoplocis ( talk) 13:52, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
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Revome the reference to Harper being an “economist” in the first line of his bio. Although he studied economics and has his masters; the generally accepted criteria for calling oneself an economist is to have your PhD and to have actually been employed as an economist. Harper possesses neither of these requirements. Frankenstein67 ( talk) 19:10, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
If the definition of an economist is a person who works in the field of economics, then my initial request still holds true as Mr. Harper has never held a position in the field and therefore should not be referred to as an economist. As for the request to provide an authoritative source; will “The Economist” magazine do? How do I go about submitting the source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mediatech492 ( talk • contribs) 22:57, 03 April 2018 (UTC)
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In the "Education" section of Stephan Harper, it states he enrolled and dropped out of The University of Toronto two months later, when in fact it was Trinity College, Toronto. Jimhabsfan ( talk) 09:24, 9 July 2018 (UTC) Jimhabsfan ( talk) 09:24, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
There is enough information on his debacle insisting that there isn't a recession when the country was in fact in recession was to add a full section on this.
This information should be researched and noted in this Wikipedia article: When the United States plummeted into a deep recession in 2008 he kept saying that Canada is not in a recession. Canada did not plunge right away into the recession, but it did follow the recession, like most counties.
This one time "economist" kept insisting that Canada was not in a recession when in fact it was in recession or was slipping into recession. He did this between 2008-2012 or longer. He was not called out on it.
How can an "economist" as they say he has a work/education background in, say that, when even the average person knows that when the U.S goes into a recession, Canada automatically follows into onto a recession. Its just common sense. The U.S cannot go into a recession without Canada, one way or another not following. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/01/stephen-harper-refuses-admit-canada-recession
https://ipolitics.ca/2015/04/19/no-matter-how-you-add-it-up-harpers-fiscal-record-is-a-catastrophe/
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He insisted on having the G20 Summit right in Downtown Toronto, in a extremely congested area central and tourist area. This would be similar to having it in Manhattan, or Downtown areas of Chicago. An extreme amount of money was spent to secure the area and provide policing, heading up to the event and during the even. And this was from a conservative leader. And conservatives are supposedly concerned with saving money. Yet he hosted it in Downtown Toronto.
/info/en/?search=2010_G20_Toronto_summit selected inf oration pieces.
"The creation of the $23-million international media centre, which included the $1.9 million Experience Canada pavilion and $57,000 artificial lake, at the Exhibition Place was widely opposed and criticized by politicians as "a waste of taxpayers' money."[120] Criticism mainly targeted Stephen Harper and Canada's Conservative government. Some protesting groups gave names to the artificial lake, such as "Harper's Folly"."
"Members of Parliament Olivia Chow and Mark Holland labelled the initially claimed budget of $1.1-billion for hosting the summits as "obscene" and "insane" while others argued that the money could have been used for long-pending municipal projects in Canada,[115][116] such as Transit City.[117] The security cost for the two summits was believed to be more expensive than the combined security costs of the 2010 Winter Olympics and Paralympics in Vancouver and Whistler, British Columbia, which were $878 million.[116]"
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Compiling a list of reliable sources to confirm/deny whether the phrase in the lead of the article, "Stephen Harper is a Canadian economist" is accurate based on Wikipedia criteria: Oceanflynn ( talk) 15:33, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
There are over 227 pages in the Wikipedia category Canadian economists, including Robert Rabinovitch. The lead for many of these people, refer to them as economists in the lead, only when they work professionally in academia as economists, with organizations such as the OECD, the Economic Council of Canada, have numerous publications about the economy. For example, " Robert Rabinovitch" as is a Canadian public servant and businessman". His PhD in economics) is not mentioned in the lead but in the Biography section. Others listed in the category Canadian economists, are referred to in the lead as Professors, not as economists. Oceanflynn ( talk) 16:20, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
McGill University Economics professor, William Watson wrote in an email to the Ottawa Citizen, said "Harper’s MA in economics means he can use the label 'trained as an economist.' He added that, "The market will decide whether you are really an economist or not." [1]
Paul Jacobson, president of the Canadian Association for Business Economics's president Paul Jacobson said, "I don’t think anybody could call [Harper] a professional economist". [1]
John Ibbitson, author of the 2015 book Stephen Harper wrote that Harper's 1991 master’s thesis, which took him 6 years to complete, "is a fine dissertation that would have made a solid foundation for launching a PhD dissertation on a similar topic" but "by the time he had finished, it was clear he would never take a crack at a doctorate". [2]: 55
According to Stephen Tapp in his June 27, 2014 article published in Policy Options by the Institute for Research on Public Policy, in response to media attention in 2014 regarding Harper's description as 'an economist', "Those people who know (the real economists), know when those who don’t know (the charlatans) don’t know what they’re talking about. Now if only our media " who work under tight deadlines on complex issues " could tell the difference between the two." [3]
In a June 20, 2014 article published in the The Telegram, Brian Jones wrote that Harper cannot be described as 'an economist'. [4] [5]
A 2007 article in The Economist, stated that Unlike membership in the American Medical Association", where "there exists clear education requirements", "[N]o such conditions are required to be called an economist or join the American Economic Association...The years of graduate-school seminars and rigorous mathematical training empowers PhD economists to converse with each other in a language all our own. This allows us to continue to believe that our years of education were worthwhile because we can recognize each other and sneer at the impostors. In the mean time, the rest of the world takes thoughtful advice and opinions from people who sometimes, while not having our illustrious pedigree, also have some very good ideas—and sometimes better ones." [6]
The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics wrote in 2018 that "Most economists need a master’s degree or Ph.D. However, some entry-level jobs—primarily in the federal government—are available for workers with a bachelor’s degree." [7]
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Harper's 1991 master's thesis, which took him 6 years to complete, "is a fine dissertation that would have made a solid foundation for launching a PhD dissertation on a similar topic" but "by the time he had finished, it was clear he would never take a crack at a doctorate".
On June 25, 2014 at 9:46 PM, David Akin @davidakin Asked on Twitter, " If @PMHarper has an M.A. in Economics, is he an Economist? S-J Telegram desker Brian Jones says no.
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It is an exaggeration to claim that he as economist based solely on these criteria. Not every Prime Minister is called an economist because they handle economic policy. And having a Masters degree does not make you an economist, just as having a Masters in chemistry doesn't make you a chemist unless you work as one doing actual chemistry. Harper never worked as an economist and it also doesn't add much to this page to cite him as one--his contributions to the field were insignificant and his accomplishments as PM far overshadow any actual research he did in economics. It should be removed as it misrepresents his career and dilutes the meaning of "economist".-- WaldorfPastorius ( talk) 20:47, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
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I would like to do editing and make Wikipedia more trusted and esteemed since many people edit and put incorrect information there. 70.79.169.230 ( talk) 18:00, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
I find it pretty strange the way this article lays out specific policy issues. On most pages, the main sections listed are very major events, like elections and holding the office itself with policies listed under. (Examples: Barack Obama, Paul Martin, Jean Chrétien, Jack Layton. Anyone have any objections if I reorganize this article to match? WildComet ( talk) 05:34, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
That statement about serving for nearly a decade seems redundant to me, since it's in the same sentence as his start and end years. Randusk restored it, saying: "Have to restore this because there was consensus to include that line in the lead a while ago. Other changes should be discussed before being made." I've looked for that discussion on this page and two pages of archives, and haven't found it. I could just be missing it; my search skills aren't the best. Nonetheless, could you please point us to that discussion? Thanks. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz ( talk) 03:23, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
I'm not sure why Stephen Harper's image on the article was updated. As far as I know, the previously image File:Stephen-Harper-Cropped-2014-02-18.jpg should be used as it is from a time where Harper was Prime Minister, thus making it a more important image. MogasTheThird ( talk) 15:12, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
For the infobox pic, I put a photo with the blue background. Now it's a grey background. What's the point of changing it exactly? Ak-eater06 ( talk) 04:02, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
Need input here in the discussion of Talk:Domestic policy of the Stephen Harper government#Merger proposal.
Merge Economic policy of the Stephen Harper government and Environmental policy of the Stephen Harper government into Domestic policy of the Stephen Harper government. I'd argue that it's better to be organized and have only two seperate articles rather than four. Both economic policy and environmental policy are pretty short too so it won't really do much harm if we add them to domestic policy.
Ak-eater06 ( talk) 02:21, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
Pinging @ Ak-eater06: I moved the sentence into another section of the lead because I felt it was out of place to include there. Usually, the first paragraph MOS:LEADBIO focuses on the main reason the subject is notable. In this case, it's being the PM and leading the CPC. I don't think Harper being the second longest PM from a right of centre party meets the criteria. It's certainly worth a reference to elsewhere, which is why I moved it to the section of the lead that discusses the end of his tenure, where it feels more appropriate. —WildComet talk 16:50, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
I would say it is a notable point, in the context of Canadian federal politics : it’s a reflection of the unusual dominance of the Liberal Party that it took over a century for a conservative pm to come even close to matching MacDonald’s tenure. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz ( talk) 17:50, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
I think he's notable enough, as the first and only prime minister from the CPC. GoodDay ( talk) 15:32, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
Consensus is deadlocked. Might as well open an RfC for this. Ak-eater06 ( talk) 04:01, 5 July 2022 (UTC)