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The auditorium of the National Maritime Intelligence Center (NMIC), located in Suitland, Maryland, is named in his honor; the Steny H. Hoyer Auditorium. The auditorium's foyer is the home of the National Gallery of Naval Intelligence History; jointly maintained by the Office of Naval Intelligence and the Naval Historical Center. -- Tony Hecht 06:07, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
The Vice President of the United States serves as the President of the Senate. This is a bit of basic Constitutional information that, while not known by all members of the public, should certainly have been researched before anyone made the erroneous statement that the Vice President was not a member of the Senate; he is in fact the highest ranking member. Therefore, Spirow T. Agnew, the only Vice President from Maryland, outranks Congressman Hoyer as the most senior Marylander to ever serve in that body. Your own article about the Vice Presidency, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_President_of_the_United_States, confirms this fact. User: History21
I noticed that there are two links to election opponents that are linking to the wrong people. Two of his opponents are linking to people who lived centuries before. Thomas Hutchins and another one. Whidbey
I was frustrated by the fact that Steny was such an unusual name and yet there was no explanation for it in the article, so I found out by going on-line to "Baltimore Sun” newspaper articles. There is undoubtedly more information in the Maryland newspapers to flesh out Hoyer's background. I also wanted to find out something more about his late wife. Two of Hoyer's primary interests, education and disabilities turn out to be connected with his wife. I hope that is made clear by my edits. the late '50s until his early death in 1975, and from whom she eventually separated. A minor point. I want to go back and find out if the American Epilepsy Society and the Epilepsy Foundation are seperate organizations. Hope someone else will pick up the ball and put some meat on the skeleton of this article. Meb53 02:28, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
I added Mr. Hoyer as House Democratic Leader; although Mrs. Pelosi is the highest ranking Democratic member in the House of Representatives, Mr. Hoyer is the highest ranking Democratic member to hold a position in the House majority-party structure. The position of Speaker is traditionally non-partisan. Tlaktan 00:24, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Now that he is majority leader, his positions on major policies should be set forth. I've already added an international affairs section, and started it with Hoyer's position on Iran, and Israel. Perhaps more can be added, as well as a domestic policy section. Larry Dunn 20:50, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Steny Hoyer is being strongly criticized for supporting the FISA Bill granting telecoms immunity from their cooperation with the NSA's illegal wiretapping program under Bush. [2] [3]. There is even a democratic PAC to "punish" him [4]. It's a fairly major cross over issue which should be mentioned. JeffBurdges ( talk) 21:29, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
An IP associated with the United States House of Representatives, 143.231.249.141 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) has been blocked for attempting to whitewash this article. To whoever may be doing that: please stop before this gets into the press. Jehochman Talk 20:14, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
The following was removing under the rational of "blog quoting blog":
In Congress, Hoyer's concessions to the Republican minority and President George W. Bush are earning him a reputation as the "new Joe Lieberman." [1]
Under WP:Verifiability: "Some newspapers host interactive columns that they call blogs, and these may be acceptable as sources so long as the writers are professionals and the blog is subject to the newspaper's full editorial control." The politico blog is not a personal blog. The post furthermore isn't sourcing a blog, it's quoting an influential blogger. Greg Comlish ( talk) 16:23, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
It is filled with factual errors, dishonest presumptions, and quotes from inconsequential far-left bloggers.
The first two sentences dishonestly present Hoyer’s reputation in Congress; but it really is stating Hoyer’s reputation among far-left bloggers. Hoyer has an outstanding reputation in Congress, as evident by his elected position of Majority Leader.
Most of the bills listed as evidence of Hoyer conspiring with Bush and Republicans are in fact widely popular bipartisan bills that passed with a majority of Democrats.
Hoyer did not draft the bankruptcy bill.
Hoyer did not vote for the Terry Schiavo intervention.
Hoyer fundraising and his Leadership PAC are nothing but typical for any member of Congressional Leadership of either party.
David Sirota is an inconsequential far-left blogger, not an authority on Congress nor a progressive leader.
There is no citation for the lobbyist citing the bankruptcy bill. This was probably made-up.
Where are the Wikipedia editors who stand up for the principle of NEUTRAL POINT OF VIEW?!?! This is a disgrace. Caphillstaffer ( talk) 18:56, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Hello. I have made several additions to this article, which have been abundantly cited in proper accordance to WP:Verifiability. If some people believe that the cited material does not fairly portray the subject, then the solution is to address the distortion by rewriting existing material in a more neutral tone, and adding missing material.
Prior to my editing the article was a profound whitewash of the "boy wonder" congressman. It even made the incredible allegation that Hoyer was a leader in "civil liberties". (I imagine the ACLU would beg to differ). I've tried to improve the article. My edits, like everyone else's, are imperfect and incomplete. This is wikipedia, afterall. One persons edits are never the end of the article. But the solution is to improve the article, not to erase inconvenient facts.
Now to address specifics:
Most of the bills listed as evidence of Hoyer conspiring with Bush and Republicans are in fact widely popular bipartisan bills that passed with a majority of Democrats.
Regarding the Fisa bill, the Republicans got everything they wanted and then bragged about in the national media. That is, by definition, not a compromise. Whether or not many Democrats were complicit is irrelevant to the degree their actions constitute concessions. Furthermore, the totals you quote represent the total votes in congress, not votes in the Democratic Party. Greg Comlish ( talk) 16:45, 8 July 2008 (UTC)compromise 1 a: a settlement of differences by arbitration or by consent reached by mutual concessions.
The White House got more than they even hoped for. Republicans also dismissed the narrow court review on the immunity question that Mr. Hoyer has falsely trumpeted as evidence of his hard-won concessions as a mere “formality.” Greg Comlish ( talk) 14:26, 9 July 2008 (UTC)The proposal — particularly the immunity provision — represents a major victory for the White House after months of dispute. “I think the White House got a better deal than they even they had hoped to get,” said Senator Christopher Bond, the Missouri Republican who led the negotiations.
Caphillstaffer, I agree with you that the original wording was NPOV. However, I also agree with all of your critics here that Hoyer's pack of invertebrates are worse than useless, and if there were any justice in the world they would be thrown out of office this November. - Frankie ( talk) 13:43, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Hoyer did not draft the bankruptcy bill.
Hoyer did not vote for the Terry Schiavo intervention.
Hoyer fundraising and his Leadership PAC are nothing but typical for any member of Congressional Leadership of either party.
David Sirota is an inconsequential far-left blogger, not an authority on Congress or a progressive leader.
There is no citation for the lobbyist citing the bankruptcy bill. This was probably made-up.
Where are the Wikipedia editors who stand up for the principle of NEUTRAL POINT OF VIEW?!?! This is a disgrace.
Under Iraq section, Hoyer has never sponsored a troop funding bill. The "cite" does not say that anywhere. Please fix. Caphillstaffer ( talk) 20:28, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
The report is old news and was barely news to begin with. The few articles that were written about it pointed out how common and perfectly legal the practice is, e.g. http://somd.com/news/headlines/2007/5612.shtml The presumption that Hoyer broke the law is dishonest and misleading. Caphillstaffer ( talk) 21:05, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm not very familiar with formatting templates, so could someone look at "Representatives to the 98th–111th United States Congresses from Maryland" (bottom of the article) and figure out a way to make it a normal template? (drop-down box, like Template:MD-FedRep) Gracias. APK straight up now tell me 13:28, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Steny Hoyer, nor Nancy Pelosi, have not made an announcement about their positions in the leadership in 2013. This article assumes that Pelosi will step down and that Hoyer will get elected. There is no indication of any of these things happening. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.3.136.135 ( talk) 20:43, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
--Now someone edited it, but they did a half ass job and its still incorrect. Way to go.
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The auditorium of the National Maritime Intelligence Center (NMIC), located in Suitland, Maryland, is named in his honor; the Steny H. Hoyer Auditorium. The auditorium's foyer is the home of the National Gallery of Naval Intelligence History; jointly maintained by the Office of Naval Intelligence and the Naval Historical Center. -- Tony Hecht 06:07, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
The Vice President of the United States serves as the President of the Senate. This is a bit of basic Constitutional information that, while not known by all members of the public, should certainly have been researched before anyone made the erroneous statement that the Vice President was not a member of the Senate; he is in fact the highest ranking member. Therefore, Spirow T. Agnew, the only Vice President from Maryland, outranks Congressman Hoyer as the most senior Marylander to ever serve in that body. Your own article about the Vice Presidency, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_President_of_the_United_States, confirms this fact. User: History21
I noticed that there are two links to election opponents that are linking to the wrong people. Two of his opponents are linking to people who lived centuries before. Thomas Hutchins and another one. Whidbey
I was frustrated by the fact that Steny was such an unusual name and yet there was no explanation for it in the article, so I found out by going on-line to "Baltimore Sun” newspaper articles. There is undoubtedly more information in the Maryland newspapers to flesh out Hoyer's background. I also wanted to find out something more about his late wife. Two of Hoyer's primary interests, education and disabilities turn out to be connected with his wife. I hope that is made clear by my edits. the late '50s until his early death in 1975, and from whom she eventually separated. A minor point. I want to go back and find out if the American Epilepsy Society and the Epilepsy Foundation are seperate organizations. Hope someone else will pick up the ball and put some meat on the skeleton of this article. Meb53 02:28, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
I added Mr. Hoyer as House Democratic Leader; although Mrs. Pelosi is the highest ranking Democratic member in the House of Representatives, Mr. Hoyer is the highest ranking Democratic member to hold a position in the House majority-party structure. The position of Speaker is traditionally non-partisan. Tlaktan 00:24, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Now that he is majority leader, his positions on major policies should be set forth. I've already added an international affairs section, and started it with Hoyer's position on Iran, and Israel. Perhaps more can be added, as well as a domestic policy section. Larry Dunn 20:50, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Steny Hoyer is being strongly criticized for supporting the FISA Bill granting telecoms immunity from their cooperation with the NSA's illegal wiretapping program under Bush. [2] [3]. There is even a democratic PAC to "punish" him [4]. It's a fairly major cross over issue which should be mentioned. JeffBurdges ( talk) 21:29, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
An IP associated with the United States House of Representatives, 143.231.249.141 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) has been blocked for attempting to whitewash this article. To whoever may be doing that: please stop before this gets into the press. Jehochman Talk 20:14, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
The following was removing under the rational of "blog quoting blog":
In Congress, Hoyer's concessions to the Republican minority and President George W. Bush are earning him a reputation as the "new Joe Lieberman." [1]
Under WP:Verifiability: "Some newspapers host interactive columns that they call blogs, and these may be acceptable as sources so long as the writers are professionals and the blog is subject to the newspaper's full editorial control." The politico blog is not a personal blog. The post furthermore isn't sourcing a blog, it's quoting an influential blogger. Greg Comlish ( talk) 16:23, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
It is filled with factual errors, dishonest presumptions, and quotes from inconsequential far-left bloggers.
The first two sentences dishonestly present Hoyer’s reputation in Congress; but it really is stating Hoyer’s reputation among far-left bloggers. Hoyer has an outstanding reputation in Congress, as evident by his elected position of Majority Leader.
Most of the bills listed as evidence of Hoyer conspiring with Bush and Republicans are in fact widely popular bipartisan bills that passed with a majority of Democrats.
Hoyer did not draft the bankruptcy bill.
Hoyer did not vote for the Terry Schiavo intervention.
Hoyer fundraising and his Leadership PAC are nothing but typical for any member of Congressional Leadership of either party.
David Sirota is an inconsequential far-left blogger, not an authority on Congress nor a progressive leader.
There is no citation for the lobbyist citing the bankruptcy bill. This was probably made-up.
Where are the Wikipedia editors who stand up for the principle of NEUTRAL POINT OF VIEW?!?! This is a disgrace. Caphillstaffer ( talk) 18:56, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Hello. I have made several additions to this article, which have been abundantly cited in proper accordance to WP:Verifiability. If some people believe that the cited material does not fairly portray the subject, then the solution is to address the distortion by rewriting existing material in a more neutral tone, and adding missing material.
Prior to my editing the article was a profound whitewash of the "boy wonder" congressman. It even made the incredible allegation that Hoyer was a leader in "civil liberties". (I imagine the ACLU would beg to differ). I've tried to improve the article. My edits, like everyone else's, are imperfect and incomplete. This is wikipedia, afterall. One persons edits are never the end of the article. But the solution is to improve the article, not to erase inconvenient facts.
Now to address specifics:
Most of the bills listed as evidence of Hoyer conspiring with Bush and Republicans are in fact widely popular bipartisan bills that passed with a majority of Democrats.
Regarding the Fisa bill, the Republicans got everything they wanted and then bragged about in the national media. That is, by definition, not a compromise. Whether or not many Democrats were complicit is irrelevant to the degree their actions constitute concessions. Furthermore, the totals you quote represent the total votes in congress, not votes in the Democratic Party. Greg Comlish ( talk) 16:45, 8 July 2008 (UTC)compromise 1 a: a settlement of differences by arbitration or by consent reached by mutual concessions.
The White House got more than they even hoped for. Republicans also dismissed the narrow court review on the immunity question that Mr. Hoyer has falsely trumpeted as evidence of his hard-won concessions as a mere “formality.” Greg Comlish ( talk) 14:26, 9 July 2008 (UTC)The proposal — particularly the immunity provision — represents a major victory for the White House after months of dispute. “I think the White House got a better deal than they even they had hoped to get,” said Senator Christopher Bond, the Missouri Republican who led the negotiations.
Caphillstaffer, I agree with you that the original wording was NPOV. However, I also agree with all of your critics here that Hoyer's pack of invertebrates are worse than useless, and if there were any justice in the world they would be thrown out of office this November. - Frankie ( talk) 13:43, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Hoyer did not draft the bankruptcy bill.
Hoyer did not vote for the Terry Schiavo intervention.
Hoyer fundraising and his Leadership PAC are nothing but typical for any member of Congressional Leadership of either party.
David Sirota is an inconsequential far-left blogger, not an authority on Congress or a progressive leader.
There is no citation for the lobbyist citing the bankruptcy bill. This was probably made-up.
Where are the Wikipedia editors who stand up for the principle of NEUTRAL POINT OF VIEW?!?! This is a disgrace.
Under Iraq section, Hoyer has never sponsored a troop funding bill. The "cite" does not say that anywhere. Please fix. Caphillstaffer ( talk) 20:28, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
The report is old news and was barely news to begin with. The few articles that were written about it pointed out how common and perfectly legal the practice is, e.g. http://somd.com/news/headlines/2007/5612.shtml The presumption that Hoyer broke the law is dishonest and misleading. Caphillstaffer ( talk) 21:05, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm not very familiar with formatting templates, so could someone look at "Representatives to the 98th–111th United States Congresses from Maryland" (bottom of the article) and figure out a way to make it a normal template? (drop-down box, like Template:MD-FedRep) Gracias. APK straight up now tell me 13:28, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Steny Hoyer, nor Nancy Pelosi, have not made an announcement about their positions in the leadership in 2013. This article assumes that Pelosi will step down and that Hoyer will get elected. There is no indication of any of these things happening. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.3.136.135 ( talk) 20:43, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
--Now someone edited it, but they did a half ass job and its still incorrect. Way to go.
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