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Does chemical equilibrium imply that you have a steady state? Richard Giuly 08:32, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
This is a useful subject, could use some more elaboration. For example, what is the meaning of the equation for [B] when k1 = k2 (the solution has a singularity due to k2-k1 in denominator)? Sb4 ( talk) 01:12, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
The introduction to this article explains the concept of a steady state. However, the section "Steady state approximation in chemical kinetics" diverges from the concept of a steady state! The reason is that when using steady state approximation one imposes a steady state on a subset of the reactants which is not of immediate interest. One is rather interested in the slow dynamics of the remaining system which is not at steady state. I propose to transfer this section to a separate article like "Steady state approximation" or the more common term "Quasi-steady state approximation" which is also dealt with in the context of Michaelis–Menten_kinetics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Initialfluctuation ( talk • contribs) 16:25, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
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This is a useful subject, could use some more elaboration. For example, what is the meaning of the equation for [B] when k1 = k2 (the solution has a singularity due to k2-k1 in denominator)? Sb4 ( talk) 01:02, 5 November 2008 (UTC) |
Last edited at 01:02, 5 November 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 06:58, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
I propose that Steady state (chemistry) be merged into Dynamic equilibrium. I think that the content in the Steady state (chemistry) article can easily be explained in the context of Dynamic equilibrium. One can see that the two definitions overlap and that they are, in fact, synonymous (I'd like to underline that we're talking about DYNAMIC and not thermodynamic equilibrium, there is a difference). I noticed the overlapping of the definitions very well when I tried to connect the article Dynamic equilibrium in English with its German counterpart called Fließgleichgewicht. In this German Wikipedia article it is explained that the term Fließgleichgewicht (literally translated as "flow equilibrium") is synonymous with Dynamisches Gleichgewicht (lit. "dynamic equilibrium"). There are even two references to back that fact up in the article itself. However, I couldn't connect the English article Dynamic equilibrium with this German article about dynamic equilibrium (called Fließgleichgewicht), because Wikipedia told me that the German article is already connected to another English article, in this case Steady state (chemistry). This makes no sense, as the definitions overlap and as is stated and backed with references in the German article Fließgleichgewicht (dynamic equilibrium). It only makes sense to merge these two English articles as well (Steady state (chemistry) and Dynamic equilibrium).
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Does chemical equilibrium imply that you have a steady state? Richard Giuly 08:32, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
This is a useful subject, could use some more elaboration. For example, what is the meaning of the equation for [B] when k1 = k2 (the solution has a singularity due to k2-k1 in denominator)? Sb4 ( talk) 01:12, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
The introduction to this article explains the concept of a steady state. However, the section "Steady state approximation in chemical kinetics" diverges from the concept of a steady state! The reason is that when using steady state approximation one imposes a steady state on a subset of the reactants which is not of immediate interest. One is rather interested in the slow dynamics of the remaining system which is not at steady state. I propose to transfer this section to a separate article like "Steady state approximation" or the more common term "Quasi-steady state approximation" which is also dealt with in the context of Michaelis–Menten_kinetics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Initialfluctuation ( talk • contribs) 16:25, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Steady state (chemistry)/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
This is a useful subject, could use some more elaboration. For example, what is the meaning of the equation for [B] when k1 = k2 (the solution has a singularity due to k2-k1 in denominator)? Sb4 ( talk) 01:02, 5 November 2008 (UTC) |
Last edited at 01:02, 5 November 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 06:58, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
I propose that Steady state (chemistry) be merged into Dynamic equilibrium. I think that the content in the Steady state (chemistry) article can easily be explained in the context of Dynamic equilibrium. One can see that the two definitions overlap and that they are, in fact, synonymous (I'd like to underline that we're talking about DYNAMIC and not thermodynamic equilibrium, there is a difference). I noticed the overlapping of the definitions very well when I tried to connect the article Dynamic equilibrium in English with its German counterpart called Fließgleichgewicht. In this German Wikipedia article it is explained that the term Fließgleichgewicht (literally translated as "flow equilibrium") is synonymous with Dynamisches Gleichgewicht (lit. "dynamic equilibrium"). There are even two references to back that fact up in the article itself. However, I couldn't connect the English article Dynamic equilibrium with this German article about dynamic equilibrium (called Fließgleichgewicht), because Wikipedia told me that the German article is already connected to another English article, in this case Steady state (chemistry). This makes no sense, as the definitions overlap and as is stated and backed with references in the German article Fließgleichgewicht (dynamic equilibrium). It only makes sense to merge these two English articles as well (Steady state (chemistry) and Dynamic equilibrium).