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I don't see an indication of notability per
WP:MUSIC; they've charted at 53, which wouldn't meet criteria 2 (i.e. a "hit") and I don't think a citywide band search is a notable award. Is there multiple non-trivial media coverage that I'm missing?--
Isotope2316:51, 17 July 2007 (UTC)reply
Since I wrote some of this article, I'll try and address this. First of all, they charted a song on the national billboard chart (I think you're emphasizing the wrong part of that criterion). To assume that future singles (I know they are planning to release another one soon) will not chart higher would be predicting the future (I can't seem to find that page, but I'm sure the guideline exists somewhere. Also, since
Money Honey is still on the charts we cannot assume it will not rise further. However, I agree that further references are needed. I will try and find some, but if anyone else sees this I would appreciate a hand. Thanks.
Random8906:04, 18 July 2007 (UTC)reply
Well that's why I tagged it and posted here instead of PROD/AFD. I'm not saying they absolutely are not notable, my point was more that the article doesn't make a strong case for it.
In regards to emphasis on criteria 2, I just saw an AFD that I initiated close as delete where a band had charted something like 63 on a national music chart, but that wasn't deemed a "hit" and thus failed criteria 2 (though that was a now defunct band so there is virtually no chance their prior charted song will ever go higher than that). I'm simply playing a bit of devil's advocacy here because, while I'm not suggesting an AFD here, I'd tighten this up so nobody else does.--
Isotope2314:09, 18 July 2007 (UTC)reply
Thanks for taking an interest in this article. I've just added information (unsourced since I could only find it on their website, but I'm working on that). They are touring with Nickelback, one of the most well-known modern rock bands around. And their single has climbed to 31, 25 on the digital singles chart. I know finding more sources are still an issue, but for now I think that the band can be deemed notable. Thanks.
Random8907:25, 30 July 2007 (UTC)reply
Here's my two cents... I don't know if it matters, but I think the band has a future, "Money Honey" has faired well in Canada[A local station here plays it often and I'm not even in British Columbia...]. Plus Random89's right, despite my loathing fort Nickelback, State of Shock is indeed touring with them and Puddle of Mudd, two rather reconized rock bands. I think they`re worthy of a page, I mean I did search them up and find this afterall... -A Guest User
They're now signed to UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC Internationally. record will be released in the U.S. in the new year. its an awesome band with great songs, I reccommend listening to them :) —Preceding
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I don't see an indication of notability per
WP:MUSIC; they've charted at 53, which wouldn't meet criteria 2 (i.e. a "hit") and I don't think a citywide band search is a notable award. Is there multiple non-trivial media coverage that I'm missing?--
Isotope2316:51, 17 July 2007 (UTC)reply
Since I wrote some of this article, I'll try and address this. First of all, they charted a song on the national billboard chart (I think you're emphasizing the wrong part of that criterion). To assume that future singles (I know they are planning to release another one soon) will not chart higher would be predicting the future (I can't seem to find that page, but I'm sure the guideline exists somewhere. Also, since
Money Honey is still on the charts we cannot assume it will not rise further. However, I agree that further references are needed. I will try and find some, but if anyone else sees this I would appreciate a hand. Thanks.
Random8906:04, 18 July 2007 (UTC)reply
Well that's why I tagged it and posted here instead of PROD/AFD. I'm not saying they absolutely are not notable, my point was more that the article doesn't make a strong case for it.
In regards to emphasis on criteria 2, I just saw an AFD that I initiated close as delete where a band had charted something like 63 on a national music chart, but that wasn't deemed a "hit" and thus failed criteria 2 (though that was a now defunct band so there is virtually no chance their prior charted song will ever go higher than that). I'm simply playing a bit of devil's advocacy here because, while I'm not suggesting an AFD here, I'd tighten this up so nobody else does.--
Isotope2314:09, 18 July 2007 (UTC)reply
Thanks for taking an interest in this article. I've just added information (unsourced since I could only find it on their website, but I'm working on that). They are touring with Nickelback, one of the most well-known modern rock bands around. And their single has climbed to 31, 25 on the digital singles chart. I know finding more sources are still an issue, but for now I think that the band can be deemed notable. Thanks.
Random8907:25, 30 July 2007 (UTC)reply
Here's my two cents... I don't know if it matters, but I think the band has a future, "Money Honey" has faired well in Canada[A local station here plays it often and I'm not even in British Columbia...]. Plus Random89's right, despite my loathing fort Nickelback, State of Shock is indeed touring with them and Puddle of Mudd, two rather reconized rock bands. I think they`re worthy of a page, I mean I did search them up and find this afterall... -A Guest User
They're now signed to UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC Internationally. record will be released in the U.S. in the new year. its an awesome band with great songs, I reccommend listening to them :) —Preceding
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