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Picture in the "Art, Music, and Clothing" Section

Under the 'Art, music, and clothing' Section there is a picture of 'Palestinian children in their traditional dress'. The picture itself was taken in London (on Oct. 9th 2023), and it is not clear this has anything to do with 'traditional Palestinian clothing'. The picture does contain a political message which is irrelevant to the information discussed in the section, and in addition contains a short manifesto in text when opened "There are more than two million people living there, and this brutal form of collective punishment is clearly a war crime which threatens the lives of all of them...". I suggest deleting this picture or finding a more suitable image which is relevant to the information discussed.— Preceding unsigned comment added by an unspecified IP address

Revert

This revert edit wars in the term "Proclaimed capital" in the infobox. The infoboxes for Israel and Palestine in this respect should be identical (as are their leads) as neither claim is recognized and whether Israel occupies Jerusalem has absolutely nothing whatever to do with it. Selfstudier ( talk) 20:37, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 July 2024

In the "Capital" section of the Infobox, instead of saying "Jerusalem" say "East Jerusalem" as the Palestinian Liberation Organisation claims only East Jerusalem as its capital not the whole of Jerusalem. Zakary2012 ( talk) 05:15, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. GrayStorm( Complaints Dept.| My Contribs.) 05:40, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Largest city - needs to be fixed

The infobox says the largest city in the country is Gaza City, but it is actually East Jerusalem, with 595,000 inhabitants according to the article on it, so that needs to be corrected in the infobox. 2A00:A041:3B9A:AC00:88A6:4340:9DD0:6D05 ( talk) 14:58, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply

where in the article does it say that? Slatersteven ( talk) 15:07, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Lede

@ Astropulse: WP:LEDE is a summary of the body and is not supposed to have any details in it. The burden to achieve consensus is on the inserter of the material per WP:ONUS, not on its remover. Makeandtoss ( talk) 07:59, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Astropulse: I have reverted your revert while we discuss. Please explain your revert further, for example, the restoration of In 1917, Britain called for a Jewish nation to be created, which is actually false. Selfstudier ( talk) 10:14, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply
https://www.nam.ac.uk/explore/conflict-Palestine
it says "In 1917, in order to win Jewish support for Britain's First World War effort, the British Balfour Declaration promised the establishment of a Jewish national home in Ottoman-controlled Palestine."
National Army Museum is the British Army's central museum.
How is this false? Its already in the reference Astropulse ( talk) 18:27, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Jewish national home is not equal to a Jewish nation. That you are not aware of this and all the arguments around it, is disturbing. Selfstudier ( talk) 18:35, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply
I see. right now, i think the flow of information is not great and it was severely shortened by @ Makeandtoss People should have some more context Astropulse ( talk) 21:47, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Selfstudiercan you confirm your reasoning behind recent revert and why you like the current version instead of version july 12 before changes by Makeandtoss Astropulse ( talk) 15:13, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

See my comment above. Selfstudier ( talk) 15:19, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Picture in the "Art, Music, and Clothing" Section

Under the 'Art, music, and clothing' Section there is a picture of 'Palestinian children in their traditional dress'. The picture itself was taken in London (on Oct. 9th 2023), and it is not clear this has anything to do with 'traditional Palestinian clothing'. The picture does contain a political message which is irrelevant to the information discussed in the section, and in addition contains a short manifesto in text when opened "There are more than two million people living there, and this brutal form of collective punishment is clearly a war crime which threatens the lives of all of them...". I suggest deleting this picture or finding a more suitable image which is relevant to the information discussed.— Preceding unsigned comment added by an unspecified IP address

Revert

This revert edit wars in the term "Proclaimed capital" in the infobox. The infoboxes for Israel and Palestine in this respect should be identical (as are their leads) as neither claim is recognized and whether Israel occupies Jerusalem has absolutely nothing whatever to do with it. Selfstudier ( talk) 20:37, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 July 2024

In the "Capital" section of the Infobox, instead of saying "Jerusalem" say "East Jerusalem" as the Palestinian Liberation Organisation claims only East Jerusalem as its capital not the whole of Jerusalem. Zakary2012 ( talk) 05:15, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. GrayStorm( Complaints Dept.| My Contribs.) 05:40, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Largest city - needs to be fixed

The infobox says the largest city in the country is Gaza City, but it is actually East Jerusalem, with 595,000 inhabitants according to the article on it, so that needs to be corrected in the infobox. 2A00:A041:3B9A:AC00:88A6:4340:9DD0:6D05 ( talk) 14:58, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply

where in the article does it say that? Slatersteven ( talk) 15:07, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Lede

@ Astropulse: WP:LEDE is a summary of the body and is not supposed to have any details in it. The burden to achieve consensus is on the inserter of the material per WP:ONUS, not on its remover. Makeandtoss ( talk) 07:59, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Astropulse: I have reverted your revert while we discuss. Please explain your revert further, for example, the restoration of In 1917, Britain called for a Jewish nation to be created, which is actually false. Selfstudier ( talk) 10:14, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply
https://www.nam.ac.uk/explore/conflict-Palestine
it says "In 1917, in order to win Jewish support for Britain's First World War effort, the British Balfour Declaration promised the establishment of a Jewish national home in Ottoman-controlled Palestine."
National Army Museum is the British Army's central museum.
How is this false? Its already in the reference Astropulse ( talk) 18:27, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Jewish national home is not equal to a Jewish nation. That you are not aware of this and all the arguments around it, is disturbing. Selfstudier ( talk) 18:35, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply
I see. right now, i think the flow of information is not great and it was severely shortened by @ Makeandtoss People should have some more context Astropulse ( talk) 21:47, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Selfstudiercan you confirm your reasoning behind recent revert and why you like the current version instead of version july 12 before changes by Makeandtoss Astropulse ( talk) 15:13, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

See my comment above. Selfstudier ( talk) 15:19, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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