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I'm a academic adviser for a private university and I want to know why the state schools don't have a high population of minorities. The statistics show the numbers are up but the actual number of minorities accepted to the state schools is low. What is being done to correct this problem? It would be interesting to know what percentage of employees are minorities at these institutions. I'm not tallking about the entry level persons nor the maintenance crew or the cleaning people, I'm talking about college administration. The message that is being sent to the minority community seems to direct toward this group or class of people as sub-standard acheivers. Even if you have a token, makes it worse of an image to the minority community. Filling a quota can be seen a mile away. I am impressed by the efforts of U of F to create a position to target the under represented groups, but to fill the position with someone other than a minority is insulting. ( 137.52.118.239 19:12, 28 September 2006 (UTC))
I removed a line in the article that said that Florida's public and private schools are held in low-regard across the nation. This assertion was made by the fact that some "dating services" do not place Florida's universities in their "elite" categories. This is a patently absurd way to measure university accomplishments and prestige. UF is ranked #13 in US News' rankings of public research universities, 4th in The Scientist magazine's "Best Places to Work in Academia", and fifth in Kiplinger's "Top 100 Colleges." Among other awards, UF's faculty has a Fields Medal and two Pulitzers. UF is also a member of the Association of American Universities, an association of the top 62 research universities in the country. I'm not going to do research on all 12 public universities, but UCF is ranked for its engineering and computer science programs and is ranked by US News, as is FSU and USF. UCF has the nation's leading optics/laser research institute, and FSU, UF, and USF have medical schools with varying specialties, and UF and FSU's law schools are both Tier 1 in rankings. So, in short, it is absurd to rank Florida's university system based on some dating website.
63.138.80.219 17:54, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Does someone have a source that breaks the universities into the categories as they are now? I mean the regional, state, and flagship university sections. If not I think we should list them by name or date established/opened.
Thanks, KnightLago 23:19, 20 October 2007 (UTC) KnightLago 23:19, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
I was bold, and turned the colleges section back into a list sorted by alphabetical order. I looked at the Board of Governor's website and I could not find the breakdown by categories. Also, looking at the history of this page it seems that there has been a lot of reverting and additions. I think the changes I made will be much simpler to maintain and will also prevent edit wars. KnightLago 23:32, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
UCF is not a Research Flagship. It says in the Sentinel Article that the Legislation created a Tier System. I am sorry but don't make UF, FSU, and USF look bad because UCF isn't added into the equation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.253.37.233 ( talk) 18:59, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
In effort not to show any favoritism or grandstanding don't place universities in order of "Popularity" or so called "Prestige" Please leave a neutral page,
This is mainly directed to placing FSU, USF and U of F above all and makes no sense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by UkrNole 485 ( talk • contribs) 16:04, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
The link provided is broken and thus useless to backup claims that a tier system is in place. SB 1710, which the source is supposedly referring to, does not even mention the word "tier", see here. An active link from the Orlando Sentinel talks about a two-tier system, saying it would be between universities and community colleges but that it has not been implemented yet, see here. Please provide sources to backup the sentence you are re-adding so we can discuss here. Thanks. KnightLago ( talk) 23:54, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Why are these more important than university size? I do not see the point. To avoid an edit war can we look and see if people think student body size would be better than a random ranking system. Dgreco ( talk) 15 January 2009
I reverted edits to the page that restored out-of-date admissions data (from 2007). In Florida there has been a radical change in admission rates and two-year old data is too old to be even reasonably accurate.
May I say I see no reason for this admissions data on this page to begin with - it seems to be cheerleading by fans of schools. So, if you insist on cheerleading then make the data accurate...which means a solid reference back to the university's reference material, not some magazine with old, questionable figures. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.252.231.55 ( talk) 12:25, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
The endowment column is sortable, but the entries were made in such a way they didn't sort the way you would want.
I fixed it by adding a prefix to each entry of the form <span style="display:none">xxxx</span>. It works. If endowments change, simply change the amount and the value of xxxx, making sure to maintain leading zeros. Or if this is too much work, revert, but then change the column so it isn't sortable.-- SPhilbrick T 20:12, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
I also made the Research and Enrollment table sortable - while the research budget is the natural sort, one might want to see this table and the table above both sorted by school. Making it sortable helps eliminate the potential privilege of a particular order.-- SPhilbrick T 13:39, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
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I noted that an editor added a special date reference for FSU illuminating when the university changed it's official founding from 1857 to 1851 per this reference: http://www.sptimes.com/News/072900/State/FSU_s_age_change__his.shtml The editor saw fit to add the note reference Florida State but did not add it for the University of Florida, which changed its founding date from 1905 to 1853. I subsequently added the UF date reference which has now been reverted. Can we not agree this kind of notation is penny-ante rival university edit warring and just leave it alone for both schools completely? This is not a productive activity. And yes, there are additional references available to establish the UF date change nonsense. Sirberus ( talk) 17:18, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
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I'm a academic adviser for a private university and I want to know why the state schools don't have a high population of minorities. The statistics show the numbers are up but the actual number of minorities accepted to the state schools is low. What is being done to correct this problem? It would be interesting to know what percentage of employees are minorities at these institutions. I'm not tallking about the entry level persons nor the maintenance crew or the cleaning people, I'm talking about college administration. The message that is being sent to the minority community seems to direct toward this group or class of people as sub-standard acheivers. Even if you have a token, makes it worse of an image to the minority community. Filling a quota can be seen a mile away. I am impressed by the efforts of U of F to create a position to target the under represented groups, but to fill the position with someone other than a minority is insulting. ( 137.52.118.239 19:12, 28 September 2006 (UTC))
I removed a line in the article that said that Florida's public and private schools are held in low-regard across the nation. This assertion was made by the fact that some "dating services" do not place Florida's universities in their "elite" categories. This is a patently absurd way to measure university accomplishments and prestige. UF is ranked #13 in US News' rankings of public research universities, 4th in The Scientist magazine's "Best Places to Work in Academia", and fifth in Kiplinger's "Top 100 Colleges." Among other awards, UF's faculty has a Fields Medal and two Pulitzers. UF is also a member of the Association of American Universities, an association of the top 62 research universities in the country. I'm not going to do research on all 12 public universities, but UCF is ranked for its engineering and computer science programs and is ranked by US News, as is FSU and USF. UCF has the nation's leading optics/laser research institute, and FSU, UF, and USF have medical schools with varying specialties, and UF and FSU's law schools are both Tier 1 in rankings. So, in short, it is absurd to rank Florida's university system based on some dating website.
63.138.80.219 17:54, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Does someone have a source that breaks the universities into the categories as they are now? I mean the regional, state, and flagship university sections. If not I think we should list them by name or date established/opened.
Thanks, KnightLago 23:19, 20 October 2007 (UTC) KnightLago 23:19, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
I was bold, and turned the colleges section back into a list sorted by alphabetical order. I looked at the Board of Governor's website and I could not find the breakdown by categories. Also, looking at the history of this page it seems that there has been a lot of reverting and additions. I think the changes I made will be much simpler to maintain and will also prevent edit wars. KnightLago 23:32, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
UCF is not a Research Flagship. It says in the Sentinel Article that the Legislation created a Tier System. I am sorry but don't make UF, FSU, and USF look bad because UCF isn't added into the equation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.253.37.233 ( talk) 18:59, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
In effort not to show any favoritism or grandstanding don't place universities in order of "Popularity" or so called "Prestige" Please leave a neutral page,
This is mainly directed to placing FSU, USF and U of F above all and makes no sense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by UkrNole 485 ( talk • contribs) 16:04, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
The link provided is broken and thus useless to backup claims that a tier system is in place. SB 1710, which the source is supposedly referring to, does not even mention the word "tier", see here. An active link from the Orlando Sentinel talks about a two-tier system, saying it would be between universities and community colleges but that it has not been implemented yet, see here. Please provide sources to backup the sentence you are re-adding so we can discuss here. Thanks. KnightLago ( talk) 23:54, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Why are these more important than university size? I do not see the point. To avoid an edit war can we look and see if people think student body size would be better than a random ranking system. Dgreco ( talk) 15 January 2009
I reverted edits to the page that restored out-of-date admissions data (from 2007). In Florida there has been a radical change in admission rates and two-year old data is too old to be even reasonably accurate.
May I say I see no reason for this admissions data on this page to begin with - it seems to be cheerleading by fans of schools. So, if you insist on cheerleading then make the data accurate...which means a solid reference back to the university's reference material, not some magazine with old, questionable figures. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.252.231.55 ( talk) 12:25, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
The endowment column is sortable, but the entries were made in such a way they didn't sort the way you would want.
I fixed it by adding a prefix to each entry of the form <span style="display:none">xxxx</span>. It works. If endowments change, simply change the amount and the value of xxxx, making sure to maintain leading zeros. Or if this is too much work, revert, but then change the column so it isn't sortable.-- SPhilbrick T 20:12, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
I also made the Research and Enrollment table sortable - while the research budget is the natural sort, one might want to see this table and the table above both sorted by school. Making it sortable helps eliminate the potential privilege of a particular order.-- SPhilbrick T 13:39, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
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I noted that an editor added a special date reference for FSU illuminating when the university changed it's official founding from 1857 to 1851 per this reference: http://www.sptimes.com/News/072900/State/FSU_s_age_change__his.shtml The editor saw fit to add the note reference Florida State but did not add it for the University of Florida, which changed its founding date from 1905 to 1853. I subsequently added the UF date reference which has now been reverted. Can we not agree this kind of notation is penny-ante rival university edit warring and just leave it alone for both schools completely? This is not a productive activity. And yes, there are additional references available to establish the UF date change nonsense. Sirberus ( talk) 17:18, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
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