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The article states that the Diesel was introduced in 1954 but lists it under both Phase I and Phase II. Given that the "petrol" Phase II replaced the "petrol" Phase I in 1952 and that the quoted reference (A-Z of Cars 1945-1970) lists the Diesel only as a Phase II I have to ask if we have gone astray with this chapter of the Vanguard story? GTHO ( talk) 10:19, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
The styling of the car resembled the pre-war Plymouth with a sloping "beetle-back".
Russian media claimed that styling of this car had been in part influenced by Russian GAZ-M20 Pobeda, which had been in development from 1943 and went into production in 1946.
Let me add some details. "Russian media" sometimes states that the whole idea of the Vanguard's exterior (not only the fastback roofline but also the "ponton" body without separate fenders, and the grille) bears much resemblance to the Pobeda and *could* be influenced by the GAZ (an example of such article [1]). However it is only an assumption. And such possibility is called in modern works "utopian". Other sources state that this resemblance is a result of following the same American prototypes (exact prototypes are not called however).
Amazing but the British media of the period stated that the Soviet Pobeda "shows a certain exterior resemblance to the Standard Vanguard" :-) (original article in "The Motor" (1952) - [2]) despite the Vanguard appeared one year later.
DL24 ( talk) 11:28, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Can anyone add a suitable photograph of the Sportsman ? RGCorris ( talk) 07:30, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
There seems to be no mention in either the Vanguard or the Triumph 2000 articles of the cancelled "Zebu" (I think) replacement project, with the reverse-angled rear window, that was aborted partly because the Ford Anglia with the same feature was ready for release and Standard did not want to be accused of plagiarism. Without this being covered the article misses out an important part of the process that resulted in the 2000 replacing the Vanguard and the Standard name being dropped. RGCorris ( talk) 14:59, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
Wasn't the Ensign discontinued and then brought back?
In the 1960's there was a fairly common car on the road in Australia called a "Vanguard Spacemaster". Maybe this name was only used in Australia.```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lathamibird ( talk • contribs) 15:03, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
I would like to suggest three new images to replace the existing one on the Standard Ensign & Ensign De Luxe section. Although mine still have distracting background, it far superior then the cluster mess the existing front image has. Plus there is no rear image or even interior image which I kindly provided below but were never used. To add, the example I photographed is from the British Motor Industry Heritage Trust collection. Thoughts? -- Vauxford ( talk) 14:24, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
The rear and interior images could be helpful added to a gallery with the image of the estate - and as an added benefit, it would take up the whitespace in that section. -- Sable232 ( talk) 02:50, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
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The article states that the Diesel was introduced in 1954 but lists it under both Phase I and Phase II. Given that the "petrol" Phase II replaced the "petrol" Phase I in 1952 and that the quoted reference (A-Z of Cars 1945-1970) lists the Diesel only as a Phase II I have to ask if we have gone astray with this chapter of the Vanguard story? GTHO ( talk) 10:19, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
The styling of the car resembled the pre-war Plymouth with a sloping "beetle-back".
Russian media claimed that styling of this car had been in part influenced by Russian GAZ-M20 Pobeda, which had been in development from 1943 and went into production in 1946.
Let me add some details. "Russian media" sometimes states that the whole idea of the Vanguard's exterior (not only the fastback roofline but also the "ponton" body without separate fenders, and the grille) bears much resemblance to the Pobeda and *could* be influenced by the GAZ (an example of such article [1]). However it is only an assumption. And such possibility is called in modern works "utopian". Other sources state that this resemblance is a result of following the same American prototypes (exact prototypes are not called however).
Amazing but the British media of the period stated that the Soviet Pobeda "shows a certain exterior resemblance to the Standard Vanguard" :-) (original article in "The Motor" (1952) - [2]) despite the Vanguard appeared one year later.
DL24 ( talk) 11:28, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Can anyone add a suitable photograph of the Sportsman ? RGCorris ( talk) 07:30, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
There seems to be no mention in either the Vanguard or the Triumph 2000 articles of the cancelled "Zebu" (I think) replacement project, with the reverse-angled rear window, that was aborted partly because the Ford Anglia with the same feature was ready for release and Standard did not want to be accused of plagiarism. Without this being covered the article misses out an important part of the process that resulted in the 2000 replacing the Vanguard and the Standard name being dropped. RGCorris ( talk) 14:59, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
Wasn't the Ensign discontinued and then brought back?
In the 1960's there was a fairly common car on the road in Australia called a "Vanguard Spacemaster". Maybe this name was only used in Australia.```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lathamibird ( talk • contribs) 15:03, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
I would like to suggest three new images to replace the existing one on the Standard Ensign & Ensign De Luxe section. Although mine still have distracting background, it far superior then the cluster mess the existing front image has. Plus there is no rear image or even interior image which I kindly provided below but were never used. To add, the example I photographed is from the British Motor Industry Heritage Trust collection. Thoughts? -- Vauxford ( talk) 14:24, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
The rear and interior images could be helpful added to a gallery with the image of the estate - and as an added benefit, it would take up the whitespace in that section. -- Sable232 ( talk) 02:50, 10 December 2019 (UTC)