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Ok - question: AFAIK Stahlhelm was primarily an (infulential conservative) veteran's organization. I keep seeing it called it a paramilitary org - did they actually have military units ?
Started the translation from the current state of the German article. Looks like this one was originally translated from it but not maintained as the other was filled out. 72.228.177.92 ( talk) 00:42, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
I think that the Kesselring article description of the bund is out of sync with the bund article itself
In 1952, while still in the hospital, Kesselring accepted the honorary presidency of three veterans' organisations. The first was the Luftwaffenring, consisting of Luftwaffe veterans. The Verband deutsches Afrikakorps, the veterans' association of the Afrika Korps, soon followed. More controversial was the presidency of the right-wing veterans' association, the Stahlhelm, Bund der Frontsoldaten. Leadership of this organisation tarnished Kesselring's reputation.[182] Kesselring attempted to reform the organisation, proposing that the new German flag be flown instead of the old Imperial Flag; that the old Stahlhelm greeting Front heil! be abolished; and that members of the Social Democratic Party of Germany be allowed to join. The response was very unenthusiastic.
My german is virtually nil but I would think that if the kesselring reforms are real and not just an autobiographical whitewash, it would be proper to include them here and to follow up as to the modern character of the organization. NPOV requires, I think, to make a proper distinction between neo-nazi and non-neo-nazi right wing expressions of politics. Where does the bund der Frontsoldaten land on that question? From this article it's very hard to tell at present. TMLutas ( talk) 14:21, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
Per WP:COMMONNAME this article should be at Stahlhelm. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 20:51, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
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looks like this page works..
Ok - question: AFAIK Stahlhelm was primarily an (infulential conservative) veteran's organization. I keep seeing it called it a paramilitary org - did they actually have military units ?
Started the translation from the current state of the German article. Looks like this one was originally translated from it but not maintained as the other was filled out. 72.228.177.92 ( talk) 00:42, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
I think that the Kesselring article description of the bund is out of sync with the bund article itself
In 1952, while still in the hospital, Kesselring accepted the honorary presidency of three veterans' organisations. The first was the Luftwaffenring, consisting of Luftwaffe veterans. The Verband deutsches Afrikakorps, the veterans' association of the Afrika Korps, soon followed. More controversial was the presidency of the right-wing veterans' association, the Stahlhelm, Bund der Frontsoldaten. Leadership of this organisation tarnished Kesselring's reputation.[182] Kesselring attempted to reform the organisation, proposing that the new German flag be flown instead of the old Imperial Flag; that the old Stahlhelm greeting Front heil! be abolished; and that members of the Social Democratic Party of Germany be allowed to join. The response was very unenthusiastic.
My german is virtually nil but I would think that if the kesselring reforms are real and not just an autobiographical whitewash, it would be proper to include them here and to follow up as to the modern character of the organization. NPOV requires, I think, to make a proper distinction between neo-nazi and non-neo-nazi right wing expressions of politics. Where does the bund der Frontsoldaten land on that question? From this article it's very hard to tell at present. TMLutas ( talk) 14:21, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
Per WP:COMMONNAME this article should be at Stahlhelm. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 20:51, 28 November 2020 (UTC)