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Proposed merge with The Potteries Urban Area - two articles one topic. Saga City ( talk) 12:03, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Very strongly against the merger: a ceramics industry and an urban area (which is a mere statistical construct - how many people in Bradford would say "I live in the West Yorkshire Urban Area", when asked their place of residence?) are two totally different concepts. The ceramics industry known as the Staffordshire Potteries predates the introduction of the concept of the "urban area" to academic geography by two centuries.
The articles about the Staffordshire Potteries and the city of Stoke on Trent (which did not exist in the key era) are also about two totally different things, i.e. and an industry and a city, and should therefore remain separate. This allows both articles to be structured so as to provide a balanced overview. The article about the Staffordshire Potteries should be as long as the one about Stoke on Trent, because the industry is nationally and globally important in the history of ceramics and the history of industrialization, but the appropriate depth of coverage would skew the article about Stoke on Trent too far from what is relevant to the city as it currently exists.
This article needs massive expansion. It is one of the major topics in global (not just English) ceramic history. Its current state is pathetic. No doubt if it was part of Star Wars it would run to thousands of words already, but topics of serious importance are often neglected in wikipedia. Alex Middleton ( talk) 12:05, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Of course category links are "not generally relevant to the lead" BUT THEY ARE HERE!! There is a pathetic 3 lines, followed by a short para on a works apparently too minor to be worth its own article. Have you given any thought as to what this looks like to the average reader? Meanwhile we have a huge category of articles, some rather good, but as we know, the vast majority of readers don't understand or use categories. Unless I receive a reasoned rationale here the category will be re-added - or unless you feel like doing something useful and actually adding to the text. Johnbod ( talk) 00:33, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
What is the point of this section? It's just one not very important pottery firm and irrelevant to an article on the Staffordshire Potteries as a whole. If specific firms are to be described, I'd start with Royal Doulton, Wedgwood and Spode. Ef80 ( talk) 14:11, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
Yes but Heron Cross Pottery are still manufacturing in Stoke on Trent and employ local craftsmen whereas the other companies you mention import the majority of their products. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.69.224.235 ( talk) 17:25, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
Please add information about Crown Staffordshire to the article. - 96.233.20.34 ( talk) 13:46, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
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Proposed merge with The Potteries Urban Area - two articles one topic. Saga City ( talk) 12:03, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Very strongly against the merger: a ceramics industry and an urban area (which is a mere statistical construct - how many people in Bradford would say "I live in the West Yorkshire Urban Area", when asked their place of residence?) are two totally different concepts. The ceramics industry known as the Staffordshire Potteries predates the introduction of the concept of the "urban area" to academic geography by two centuries.
The articles about the Staffordshire Potteries and the city of Stoke on Trent (which did not exist in the key era) are also about two totally different things, i.e. and an industry and a city, and should therefore remain separate. This allows both articles to be structured so as to provide a balanced overview. The article about the Staffordshire Potteries should be as long as the one about Stoke on Trent, because the industry is nationally and globally important in the history of ceramics and the history of industrialization, but the appropriate depth of coverage would skew the article about Stoke on Trent too far from what is relevant to the city as it currently exists.
This article needs massive expansion. It is one of the major topics in global (not just English) ceramic history. Its current state is pathetic. No doubt if it was part of Star Wars it would run to thousands of words already, but topics of serious importance are often neglected in wikipedia. Alex Middleton ( talk) 12:05, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Of course category links are "not generally relevant to the lead" BUT THEY ARE HERE!! There is a pathetic 3 lines, followed by a short para on a works apparently too minor to be worth its own article. Have you given any thought as to what this looks like to the average reader? Meanwhile we have a huge category of articles, some rather good, but as we know, the vast majority of readers don't understand or use categories. Unless I receive a reasoned rationale here the category will be re-added - or unless you feel like doing something useful and actually adding to the text. Johnbod ( talk) 00:33, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
What is the point of this section? It's just one not very important pottery firm and irrelevant to an article on the Staffordshire Potteries as a whole. If specific firms are to be described, I'd start with Royal Doulton, Wedgwood and Spode. Ef80 ( talk) 14:11, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
Yes but Heron Cross Pottery are still manufacturing in Stoke on Trent and employ local craftsmen whereas the other companies you mention import the majority of their products. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.69.224.235 ( talk) 17:25, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
Please add information about Crown Staffordshire to the article. - 96.233.20.34 ( talk) 13:46, 6 August 2015 (UTC)