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The Official Stafford Beer web site seems to be off line!? -- Mdd ( talk) 08:20, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
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I'd suggest that the reference to a book of his poems published by "CWRW Press" should probably read "Cwrw Press" - 'Cwrw' is Welsh for 'beer'!
87.83.217.242 ( talk) 11:41, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Was Cybersyn intended to be a "system for distributed decision-making"? I thought it was all about centralising information and oontrol. Earthlyreason ( talk) 15:47, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
I think Beer's view would be that the system would distribute decision making in the sense that decisions would be made at the appropriate level. I cannot find you a good quotation from his writing, but the whole thing is seen as being beyond hierarchies Hpengwyn ( talk) 20:46, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
"Its futurist design offered the hope of a more participative and less bureaucratic society."
Thats a little bit misleading, Cybersyn was ultimately just a computer network to collect price information from producers and buyers so the socialist government could have more control over a increasingly centralized economy....... how is that going to translate into a more participative and less bureaucratic society?
Lets not forget this was a socialist regime. Agrofelipe ( talk) 22:17, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Due to possible violation of copyright, see WP:Copyvio, I have removed the worksection of this article for now. -- Marcel Douwe Dekker ( talk) 09:12, 10 October 2009 (UTC) P.S. I apologize for all inconvenience I have caused here, see also here. If you would like to assist in improving this article, please let me know. I can use all the help I can get. Thank you.
-- Mdd ( talk) 21:02, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
I am concerned that 'Anthony' is used as Stafford Beer's first name on Wikipedia. Indeed he was christened Anthony but he abandoned this name when he was about 16 and he never used it again. I have started seeing articles and references in books referring to Anthony Stafford Beer, clearly taking their lead from Wikipedia. Stafford would not have wanted this I'm sure. I was a close friend of his (and I've published two books on him) so I know what I'm talking about. David Whittaker — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.152.199.198 ( talk) 15:24, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
It does seem like Ian David Stafford Beer continued using "Stafford" after their deal, see here. What I am wondering about is that the title page of Autopoeisis and Cognition refers to "Sir Stafford Beer", but his contribution is signed just "Stafford Beer". Terminator 2 really happened ( talk) 16:49, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
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The Official Stafford Beer web site seems to be off line!? -- Mdd ( talk) 08:20, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
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I'd suggest that the reference to a book of his poems published by "CWRW Press" should probably read "Cwrw Press" - 'Cwrw' is Welsh for 'beer'!
87.83.217.242 ( talk) 11:41, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Was Cybersyn intended to be a "system for distributed decision-making"? I thought it was all about centralising information and oontrol. Earthlyreason ( talk) 15:47, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
I think Beer's view would be that the system would distribute decision making in the sense that decisions would be made at the appropriate level. I cannot find you a good quotation from his writing, but the whole thing is seen as being beyond hierarchies Hpengwyn ( talk) 20:46, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
"Its futurist design offered the hope of a more participative and less bureaucratic society."
Thats a little bit misleading, Cybersyn was ultimately just a computer network to collect price information from producers and buyers so the socialist government could have more control over a increasingly centralized economy....... how is that going to translate into a more participative and less bureaucratic society?
Lets not forget this was a socialist regime. Agrofelipe ( talk) 22:17, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Due to possible violation of copyright, see WP:Copyvio, I have removed the worksection of this article for now. -- Marcel Douwe Dekker ( talk) 09:12, 10 October 2009 (UTC) P.S. I apologize for all inconvenience I have caused here, see also here. If you would like to assist in improving this article, please let me know. I can use all the help I can get. Thank you.
-- Mdd ( talk) 21:02, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
I am concerned that 'Anthony' is used as Stafford Beer's first name on Wikipedia. Indeed he was christened Anthony but he abandoned this name when he was about 16 and he never used it again. I have started seeing articles and references in books referring to Anthony Stafford Beer, clearly taking their lead from Wikipedia. Stafford would not have wanted this I'm sure. I was a close friend of his (and I've published two books on him) so I know what I'm talking about. David Whittaker — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.152.199.198 ( talk) 15:24, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
It does seem like Ian David Stafford Beer continued using "Stafford" after their deal, see here. What I am wondering about is that the title page of Autopoeisis and Cognition refers to "Sir Stafford Beer", but his contribution is signed just "Stafford Beer". Terminator 2 really happened ( talk) 16:49, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
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