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Don't think 98-99 was their best ever season. They also came third back in the early 70s, under Willie Ormond, when Henry Hall was playing, behind Celtic and Aberdeen and ahead of Rangers! PatGallacher 2005 July 9 10:04 (UTC)
Are Livingston not also unbeaten at home in European competition?
The actual intro went on to say that St. Johnstone lives on mostly in the name of the football club "so inept that those who don't live in the area often think the full name is 'St. Johnstone-Nil'"
I propose trimming this list quite severely. What is genuinely notable about many of the players listed? Obviously this is a matter which comes down to individual opinion to some extent, but here is my proposal:
Anyone else? Grievous Angel 10:30, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
With that, the following should also be included:
- Dudesleeper · Talk 11:54, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
100 or more appearances could easily be reached in 2-3 seasons i.e. a fairly standard contract term. Agree with the significant impact part. Dominic Kinnear didn't even play for the first team, not even once. He doesn't warrant a mention in "Who's Who of St Johnstone 1948-1992" which lists every player who played at least one game. Just going through A to C in the aforementioned book gives (for more than 100 appearances):
Derek Addison, Kenny Aird, Fred Aitken, Jim Argue, John Balavage, Doug Barron, Stuart Beedie, Jimmy Blyth, Andy Brannigan, Paddy Buckley, Alex Caldwell, Joe Carr, Willie Coburn, John Connolly, Gordon Cramond, Harry Curran
I propose keeping: those playing a significant time at the club, genuinely well-known former players/managers etc who played for Saints, those who made a significant impact e.g. holding a record of some sort (goals, apps), or some other stated reason that makes them notable. Grievous Angel 10:20, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
I've added a "to do" list after getting a few ideas from the York City F.C. article which gained featured article status. Please add any other ideas to it, or even better, work on the points already listed ;-). If anyone has a particular interest in working on any of the "to dos" leave a note here so others will know you are already covering that point. Grievous Angel 17:38, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
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I've attempted to change the kit diagrams to match the current kit. If it can be improved any, please do so, I can't find the guide page to how it gets done. See the many photos on the official site for how the strips look in the "real world". Below is the code for how it was before (just in case it is needed in future):
pattern_la1=_whiteshoulders|pattern_b1=_whiteshoulders|pattern_ra1=_whiteshoulders| leftarm1=0000FF|body1=0000FF|rightarm1=0000FF|shorts1=FFFFFF|socks1=0000FF| pattern_la2= _whiteshoulders|pattern_b2=|pattern_ra2= _whiteshoulders| leftarm2=FFFFFF|body2=FFFFFF|rightarm2=FFFFFF|shorts2=0000FF|socks2=FFFFFF| —Preceding unsigned comment added by Grievous Angel ( talk • contribs) 21:48, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
The following players were removed from the squad by an anonymous editor today, but their articles still need de-Saints-ified:
- Dudesleeper / Talk 14:21, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
For a long time the article has stated that Cowdenbeath inflicted Saints' record defeat, when actually it was Johnstone that conceded the twelve goals. - Dudesleeper talk 19:16, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
I am currently working on a "Managers of St Johnstone F.C." article. My main source is a series of articles from the official club match programmes of the late 1980s which takes it up to Alex Totten. This series of articles starts with David Taylor as the first manager which contradicts the current section on here which the new seperate article will greatly expand on. According to the current article, there was two managers before David Taylor, so which is correct? What was the actual status of Peter Grant and Jimmy Buchan? -- Grievous Angel ( talk) 06:34, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
Interesting article on Scotland's People [1] which may be useful in editing the early history of the club. Jmorrison230582 ( talk) 15:14, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. There is a consensus that the proposed title is more common in reliable sources and in line with what the MoS says for British English. The sole oppose makes a valid point – consistency – but ultimately in this case that is outweighed by the support arguments. Jenks24 ( talk) 12:19, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
– to remove the dot from "St." per wikipedia naming convention and per the club's own website http://www.perthstjohnstonefc.co.uk. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 20:31, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
I have been loathe to do this but the persistent vandalism by user 81.154.241.99 on this page suggests a form of temporary protection for the page is required. CoatbridgeChancellor ( talk) 14:40, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
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Thank you for the prompt response jd22292. I appreciate the comments you have made here and on my own page. I will refrain from making any further reverts until this is resolved. Hopefully your intervention will be successful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CoatbridgeChancellor ( talk • contribs) 22:49, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
Sorry to come back to this jd22292 but these players have returned from any loan deals that took place in season 2016-17 and have returned to the squad as of 1 July, the beginning of season 2017-18. I have not reverted your edit as I gave you my word I would not edit war on this page. CoatbridgeChancellor
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Don't think 98-99 was their best ever season. They also came third back in the early 70s, under Willie Ormond, when Henry Hall was playing, behind Celtic and Aberdeen and ahead of Rangers! PatGallacher 2005 July 9 10:04 (UTC)
Are Livingston not also unbeaten at home in European competition?
The actual intro went on to say that St. Johnstone lives on mostly in the name of the football club "so inept that those who don't live in the area often think the full name is 'St. Johnstone-Nil'"
I propose trimming this list quite severely. What is genuinely notable about many of the players listed? Obviously this is a matter which comes down to individual opinion to some extent, but here is my proposal:
Anyone else? Grievous Angel 10:30, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
With that, the following should also be included:
- Dudesleeper · Talk 11:54, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
100 or more appearances could easily be reached in 2-3 seasons i.e. a fairly standard contract term. Agree with the significant impact part. Dominic Kinnear didn't even play for the first team, not even once. He doesn't warrant a mention in "Who's Who of St Johnstone 1948-1992" which lists every player who played at least one game. Just going through A to C in the aforementioned book gives (for more than 100 appearances):
Derek Addison, Kenny Aird, Fred Aitken, Jim Argue, John Balavage, Doug Barron, Stuart Beedie, Jimmy Blyth, Andy Brannigan, Paddy Buckley, Alex Caldwell, Joe Carr, Willie Coburn, John Connolly, Gordon Cramond, Harry Curran
I propose keeping: those playing a significant time at the club, genuinely well-known former players/managers etc who played for Saints, those who made a significant impact e.g. holding a record of some sort (goals, apps), or some other stated reason that makes them notable. Grievous Angel 10:20, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
I've added a "to do" list after getting a few ideas from the York City F.C. article which gained featured article status. Please add any other ideas to it, or even better, work on the points already listed ;-). If anyone has a particular interest in working on any of the "to dos" leave a note here so others will know you are already covering that point. Grievous Angel 17:38, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
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I've attempted to change the kit diagrams to match the current kit. If it can be improved any, please do so, I can't find the guide page to how it gets done. See the many photos on the official site for how the strips look in the "real world". Below is the code for how it was before (just in case it is needed in future):
pattern_la1=_whiteshoulders|pattern_b1=_whiteshoulders|pattern_ra1=_whiteshoulders| leftarm1=0000FF|body1=0000FF|rightarm1=0000FF|shorts1=FFFFFF|socks1=0000FF| pattern_la2= _whiteshoulders|pattern_b2=|pattern_ra2= _whiteshoulders| leftarm2=FFFFFF|body2=FFFFFF|rightarm2=FFFFFF|shorts2=0000FF|socks2=FFFFFF| —Preceding unsigned comment added by Grievous Angel ( talk • contribs) 21:48, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
The following players were removed from the squad by an anonymous editor today, but their articles still need de-Saints-ified:
- Dudesleeper / Talk 14:21, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
For a long time the article has stated that Cowdenbeath inflicted Saints' record defeat, when actually it was Johnstone that conceded the twelve goals. - Dudesleeper talk 19:16, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
I am currently working on a "Managers of St Johnstone F.C." article. My main source is a series of articles from the official club match programmes of the late 1980s which takes it up to Alex Totten. This series of articles starts with David Taylor as the first manager which contradicts the current section on here which the new seperate article will greatly expand on. According to the current article, there was two managers before David Taylor, so which is correct? What was the actual status of Peter Grant and Jimmy Buchan? -- Grievous Angel ( talk) 06:34, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
Interesting article on Scotland's People [1] which may be useful in editing the early history of the club. Jmorrison230582 ( talk) 15:14, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. There is a consensus that the proposed title is more common in reliable sources and in line with what the MoS says for British English. The sole oppose makes a valid point – consistency – but ultimately in this case that is outweighed by the support arguments. Jenks24 ( talk) 12:19, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
– to remove the dot from "St." per wikipedia naming convention and per the club's own website http://www.perthstjohnstonefc.co.uk. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 20:31, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
I have been loathe to do this but the persistent vandalism by user 81.154.241.99 on this page suggests a form of temporary protection for the page is required. CoatbridgeChancellor ( talk) 14:40, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
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20:59, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for the prompt response jd22292. I appreciate the comments you have made here and on my own page. I will refrain from making any further reverts until this is resolved. Hopefully your intervention will be successful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CoatbridgeChancellor ( talk • contribs) 22:49, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
Sorry to come back to this jd22292 but these players have returned from any loan deals that took place in season 2016-17 and have returned to the squad as of 1 July, the beginning of season 2017-18. I have not reverted your edit as I gave you my word I would not edit war on this page. CoatbridgeChancellor
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