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I removed the ref to Exeter Station - sorry but felt it was just too tangential to stay.
Should it be "Tyddewi"? Do you need the accent in a compound word? I mean, nobody writes "Caernarfôn". 66.92.237.111 17:49, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
Sadly, my home town of St. David's in Niagara-on-the-Lake, Ontario, Canada is not represented on Wikipedia, although it's neighbouring villiages of Queenston and Virgil are described. How do I create a page for St. Davids, Ontario, Canada, without making confusion with St.Davids, in the UK? Might it be appropriate to create a redirect page that arises from the search "St. Davids," at which Wikipedia visitors could choose:
Thanks for your help. Can't wait to contribute to the page for my town. Cheers. -- Marc Yarascavitch 09:39, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm somewhat confused by the apostrophe included in the city name "St David's"? Surely the correct title is "St Davids"? Whether grammatically appropriate or not, the term I remember (having lived there for 5 years) was always used without the apostrophe. E.g. see the website www.stdavids.co.uk, or indeed any of the official websites at the bottom of the article page. I will therefore attempt to modify this site accordingly, though as new to wikipedia, not sure how to modify the title. DoctorMartin 18:09, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm told Whithorn in south west Scotland is also a city. But is the population smaller? -- MacRusgail 16:48, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
I have changed Tyddewi, Cymru and St Dafydd (sic) to their English forms in this English Wikipedia article. There's plenty of opportunity to use Welsh in the rather rudimentary cy:Wicipedia article. I also took out the reference to Little England beyond Wales since, as the latter article shows, St David's is not in it. . . . . LinguisticDemographer 16:33, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
User:Skinsmoke has edited this article several times to state that the official name of the town is "St David's and the Cathedral Close" rather than "St David's". I can find no evidence to support this claim. St David's and the Cathedral Close is clearly the name of the Community which currently holds the city charter. However the London Gazette states that the city charter was conferred on "the Town of St Davids" [9] and the name of the electoral division of Pembrokeshire County Council is called "St David's". Therefore, if there are no objections, I will revert these changes. DWaterson ( talk) 18:45, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
As a follow on, I am looking to edit the article to clarify the situation of the status of 'smallest city'. As stated above, the honour is held by the community (parish), and not the settlement. Therefore it stands that the smallest 'city' label is only said in respect to the St Davids urban area. However, the status is only given to mean the built up area if there is no existing public body, so the statement is somewhat contentious. Articles used to research these include City status in the United Kingdom, List of cities in the United Kingdom and List of smallest cities in the United Kingdom. Judging it by community area would make it much larger than other cities, and put the City of London as the smallest. As I am sure this status instils a local sense of pride, and there could be some disappointment at the sake of clarification, so I thought it would be prudent to post it here first, to get Wiki members ideas of the best approach.
I will continue to post up a map of the city and list several hamlets which are within the boundaries of the city, as these don't appear to be covered in the article.
The Equalizer (
talk) 17:03, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
References
1. Any local authority (district, borough, parish/town/community or unitary council) in any part of the United Kingdom which considers that its area deserves to be granted the rare honour of city status on this very special occasion is welcome to enter the competition by the closing date of 27 May 2011.
3. Applications may only be made by an elected local authority – normally, in respect of the entire local authority area. In recognition of the fact that the legislation underpinning local authorities is different in Scotland, however, applications may be submitted by Scottish local authorities on behalf of distinct areas within the unitary local authority boundary.
OK, nobody has responded to my comment above. I am now giving notice that if nobody else joins a debate, I will move this article to St Davids. The spelling with the apostrophe is not uncommon, but the spelling without the apostrophe is more common, and is used by the town's own institutions - see the council website cited above. Does anyone have verifiable evidence that would speak against the move? -- Doric Loon ( talk) 08:41, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
The local newspaper can't make up its mind. Agathoclea ( talk) 13:23, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Support - btw Agathoclea ( talk) 14:26, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved per discussion. Certain prominent sources use the apostrophe, but it appears that the version without the apostrophe is more commonly used. - GTBacchus( talk) 00:09, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
St David's →
St Davids –
This is the weightiest possible confirmation of the Bartholomew Gazetteer of Britain, as cited above. Cheers, Bjenks ( talk) 17:59, 11 July 2011 (UTC)St David's small city in SW Wales (apostrophe); Welsh name Tyddewi
"The area was originally known in the Welsh language as Mynyw and in Latin as Menevia, and was later renamed in honour of David." in the code shows up on the page as "The area was originally known in the Welsh language as Jay Baker CountryLatin next hype!, and was later renamed in honour of David."
I have no idea why this is, or how to fix it. Can someone smarter than me please set it right (and maybe explain to me what's going on there...)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.220.75.50 ( talk) 06:52, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
The Annales Cambriae has St. Pat also kicking around the area. Any more to the story of what he was (supposedly) doing there? — LlywelynII 22:55, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
There's a discussion about what to do with the community at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Wales#Missing communities with regard to the St David's (Pembrokeshire electoral ward) article. Crouch, Swale ( talk) 20:17, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
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I removed the ref to Exeter Station - sorry but felt it was just too tangential to stay.
Should it be "Tyddewi"? Do you need the accent in a compound word? I mean, nobody writes "Caernarfôn". 66.92.237.111 17:49, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
Sadly, my home town of St. David's in Niagara-on-the-Lake, Ontario, Canada is not represented on Wikipedia, although it's neighbouring villiages of Queenston and Virgil are described. How do I create a page for St. Davids, Ontario, Canada, without making confusion with St.Davids, in the UK? Might it be appropriate to create a redirect page that arises from the search "St. Davids," at which Wikipedia visitors could choose:
Thanks for your help. Can't wait to contribute to the page for my town. Cheers. -- Marc Yarascavitch 09:39, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm somewhat confused by the apostrophe included in the city name "St David's"? Surely the correct title is "St Davids"? Whether grammatically appropriate or not, the term I remember (having lived there for 5 years) was always used without the apostrophe. E.g. see the website www.stdavids.co.uk, or indeed any of the official websites at the bottom of the article page. I will therefore attempt to modify this site accordingly, though as new to wikipedia, not sure how to modify the title. DoctorMartin 18:09, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm told Whithorn in south west Scotland is also a city. But is the population smaller? -- MacRusgail 16:48, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
I have changed Tyddewi, Cymru and St Dafydd (sic) to their English forms in this English Wikipedia article. There's plenty of opportunity to use Welsh in the rather rudimentary cy:Wicipedia article. I also took out the reference to Little England beyond Wales since, as the latter article shows, St David's is not in it. . . . . LinguisticDemographer 16:33, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
User:Skinsmoke has edited this article several times to state that the official name of the town is "St David's and the Cathedral Close" rather than "St David's". I can find no evidence to support this claim. St David's and the Cathedral Close is clearly the name of the Community which currently holds the city charter. However the London Gazette states that the city charter was conferred on "the Town of St Davids" [9] and the name of the electoral division of Pembrokeshire County Council is called "St David's". Therefore, if there are no objections, I will revert these changes. DWaterson ( talk) 18:45, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
As a follow on, I am looking to edit the article to clarify the situation of the status of 'smallest city'. As stated above, the honour is held by the community (parish), and not the settlement. Therefore it stands that the smallest 'city' label is only said in respect to the St Davids urban area. However, the status is only given to mean the built up area if there is no existing public body, so the statement is somewhat contentious. Articles used to research these include City status in the United Kingdom, List of cities in the United Kingdom and List of smallest cities in the United Kingdom. Judging it by community area would make it much larger than other cities, and put the City of London as the smallest. As I am sure this status instils a local sense of pride, and there could be some disappointment at the sake of clarification, so I thought it would be prudent to post it here first, to get Wiki members ideas of the best approach.
I will continue to post up a map of the city and list several hamlets which are within the boundaries of the city, as these don't appear to be covered in the article.
The Equalizer (
talk) 17:03, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
References
1. Any local authority (district, borough, parish/town/community or unitary council) in any part of the United Kingdom which considers that its area deserves to be granted the rare honour of city status on this very special occasion is welcome to enter the competition by the closing date of 27 May 2011.
3. Applications may only be made by an elected local authority – normally, in respect of the entire local authority area. In recognition of the fact that the legislation underpinning local authorities is different in Scotland, however, applications may be submitted by Scottish local authorities on behalf of distinct areas within the unitary local authority boundary.
OK, nobody has responded to my comment above. I am now giving notice that if nobody else joins a debate, I will move this article to St Davids. The spelling with the apostrophe is not uncommon, but the spelling without the apostrophe is more common, and is used by the town's own institutions - see the council website cited above. Does anyone have verifiable evidence that would speak against the move? -- Doric Loon ( talk) 08:41, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
The local newspaper can't make up its mind. Agathoclea ( talk) 13:23, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Support - btw Agathoclea ( talk) 14:26, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved per discussion. Certain prominent sources use the apostrophe, but it appears that the version without the apostrophe is more commonly used. - GTBacchus( talk) 00:09, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
St David's →
St Davids –
This is the weightiest possible confirmation of the Bartholomew Gazetteer of Britain, as cited above. Cheers, Bjenks ( talk) 17:59, 11 July 2011 (UTC)St David's small city in SW Wales (apostrophe); Welsh name Tyddewi
"The area was originally known in the Welsh language as Mynyw and in Latin as Menevia, and was later renamed in honour of David." in the code shows up on the page as "The area was originally known in the Welsh language as Jay Baker CountryLatin next hype!, and was later renamed in honour of David."
I have no idea why this is, or how to fix it. Can someone smarter than me please set it right (and maybe explain to me what's going on there...)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.220.75.50 ( talk) 06:52, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
The Annales Cambriae has St. Pat also kicking around the area. Any more to the story of what he was (supposedly) doing there? — LlywelynII 22:55, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
There's a discussion about what to do with the community at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Wales#Missing communities with regard to the St David's (Pembrokeshire electoral ward) article. Crouch, Swale ( talk) 20:17, 18 June 2020 (UTC)