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The following is a closed discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
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The result of the move request was: page moved. Consensus that ENGVAR applies here sufficiently to action the move. (
closed by non-admin page mover)
Oppose. Happy to be persuaded otherwise, but the nominator has provided no evidence that the proposed title represents the common name. And requests to provide that evidence (as above) have gone unanswered. The suggestion that the school or its authorities favour the version "without the dot" is demonstrably not the case (given that the school's
website, logo, and crest all include the full stop). And the suggestion that news and other sources favour the version "without the dot" is also inconclusive and inconsistent (for example the
news report that the nominator offers, the school's name is mentioned 8 times. In 6 of those cases, yes, we find "St Francis College" (no "dot"). But in 2 we find "St. Francis College". If we are arguing for a move on the basis of ENGVAR or "consistency" or some other rationale, then I'm happy to discuss those reasons. But the reasons proposed ("it's the common name" or "it's the official name") are not supported arguments.
Guliolopez (
talk)
12:51, 7 August 2019 (UTC)reply
It is correct that in Britain, Ireland and the Commonwealth (except Canada) it is far more common to write St than St., so we generally use the former for consistency in these territories as it's only a stylistic difference which changes depending on the preference of the writer and the publication. --
Necrothesp (
talk)
13:15, 7 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Support. This isn't a matter of the recognisability of the name but purely its style. This college seems to sometimes favour the American style, but it's in Ireland so we use the Irish style.
Andrewa (
talk)
11:24, 19 August 2019 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this
talk page or in a
move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Ireland, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Ireland on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.IrelandWikipedia:WikiProject IrelandTemplate:WikiProject IrelandIreland articles
This article is related to WikiProject Schools, a collaborative effort to write quality articles about schools around the world. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the
project page.SchoolsWikipedia:WikiProject SchoolsTemplate:WikiProject Schoolsschool articles
The following is a closed discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: page moved. Consensus that ENGVAR applies here sufficiently to action the move. (
closed by non-admin page mover)
Oppose. Happy to be persuaded otherwise, but the nominator has provided no evidence that the proposed title represents the common name. And requests to provide that evidence (as above) have gone unanswered. The suggestion that the school or its authorities favour the version "without the dot" is demonstrably not the case (given that the school's
website, logo, and crest all include the full stop). And the suggestion that news and other sources favour the version "without the dot" is also inconclusive and inconsistent (for example the
news report that the nominator offers, the school's name is mentioned 8 times. In 6 of those cases, yes, we find "St Francis College" (no "dot"). But in 2 we find "St. Francis College". If we are arguing for a move on the basis of ENGVAR or "consistency" or some other rationale, then I'm happy to discuss those reasons. But the reasons proposed ("it's the common name" or "it's the official name") are not supported arguments.
Guliolopez (
talk)
12:51, 7 August 2019 (UTC)reply
It is correct that in Britain, Ireland and the Commonwealth (except Canada) it is far more common to write St than St., so we generally use the former for consistency in these territories as it's only a stylistic difference which changes depending on the preference of the writer and the publication. --
Necrothesp (
talk)
13:15, 7 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Support. This isn't a matter of the recognisability of the name but purely its style. This college seems to sometimes favour the American style, but it's in Ireland so we use the Irish style.
Andrewa (
talk)
11:24, 19 August 2019 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this
talk page or in a
move review. No further edits should be made to this section.