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As I was reading this I found it quite a coincidence that the street where King was arrested was called King St. Actually, I suspect the street was named thus after the fact. I think we should use the original name of the street as it was back then, to avoid the distraction, and put "renamed to King Street" in parentheses. Lionelt ( talk) 05:54, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
This part of the story seems to be missing:
"Lincolnville is St. Augustine's Black neighborhood and Mrs. Fannie Fullerwood — who works as a maid for a white family — is president of the local NAACP. In March of 1963, she sends a letter to President Kennedy and Vice President Lyndon Johnson asking them to reject a large financial grant requested by the city for a segregated celebration of its 400th anniversary. With Greenwood and Birmingham on front pages around the world, LBJ replies that: "No event in which I will participate in St. Augustine will be segregated." But what does that mean? Does it mean that places and events will be temporarily desegregated while he is present, or does it mean he will only participate in locations that have been permanently integrated?
Intense negotiations between the local NAACP, St. Augustine's white power-structure, and LBJ's representatives ensue. LBJ comes to town for a banquet, and for the first time in history, Blacks enter the lavish Ponce de Leon Hotel ballroom as guests rather than maids or bus boys (they are seated by themselves at two "Negro" tables). But St Augustine's restaurants, lunch counters, motels, and other facilities remain segregated, as does the Ponce de Leon after the Vice President leaves. And the next day when NAACP leaders show up for a promised meeting with the City Commission, they are shown to an empty room with a tape recorder. They are told to record their complaints because no white official will meet with them in person.
By early June, the hope that had soared at the time of LBJ's visit is dying. Nothing has come from the tape-recorded grievances, and so far as the city is concerned, the 400th anniversary celebrations are going to be on a segregated basis. Dr. Robert Hayling, a young Black dentist recently arrived in the city, becomes head of the St. Augustine NAACP Youth Council (SAYC). He had been active with the Nashville Sitin Movement in 1960 while a dental student at Mehary Medical College, and he announces that unless there is some tangible progress, the young people of St. Augustine are ready to begin nonviolent direct action like those in Birmingham. A few days later he leads small groups of pickets at the local Woolworths to protest segregation. They carry signs reading: "If We Spend Money Here Why Can't We Eat Here?" " http://www.crmvet.org/tim/tim63b.htm#1963staug — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jim.Callahan,Orlando ( talk • contribs) 21:51, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved. A numerical majority favors this move, and the policy arguments of the opposers weren't very convincing. User:Montanabw offered a song and a novel as examples, but for them the rule of MOS:CT applies. The St. Augustine movement does not fall under that rule since it is not a composition title. MOS:CAPS relies on usage in sources to figure out which terms are proper names and thus require title case. User:Dicklyon and User:Dohn joe supplied the needed sources to evaluate this. The answer to User:Randy Kryn's point about consistency is that Wikipedia doesn't have to be any more consistent than the sources. The capitalization of each term depends on how that particular term is used in published writings. EdJohnston ( talk) 00:57, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
St. Augustine Movement → St. Augustine movement – Discussion started to allow move-warriors to discuss their concerns based on WP policies/guidelines and citations to relevant external sources. DMacks ( talk) 20:40, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
St Benedict should probably be added to this article somewhere. MLK used to use the rectory for major meetings and such. natemup ( talk) 01:45, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
I could've swore the article mentioned that many of the civil rights marchers were sent to the NRHP-listed Old St. Johns County Jail. which was briefly reopened just for them. --------- User:DanTD ( talk) 16:52, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
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As I was reading this I found it quite a coincidence that the street where King was arrested was called King St. Actually, I suspect the street was named thus after the fact. I think we should use the original name of the street as it was back then, to avoid the distraction, and put "renamed to King Street" in parentheses. Lionelt ( talk) 05:54, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
This part of the story seems to be missing:
"Lincolnville is St. Augustine's Black neighborhood and Mrs. Fannie Fullerwood — who works as a maid for a white family — is president of the local NAACP. In March of 1963, she sends a letter to President Kennedy and Vice President Lyndon Johnson asking them to reject a large financial grant requested by the city for a segregated celebration of its 400th anniversary. With Greenwood and Birmingham on front pages around the world, LBJ replies that: "No event in which I will participate in St. Augustine will be segregated." But what does that mean? Does it mean that places and events will be temporarily desegregated while he is present, or does it mean he will only participate in locations that have been permanently integrated?
Intense negotiations between the local NAACP, St. Augustine's white power-structure, and LBJ's representatives ensue. LBJ comes to town for a banquet, and for the first time in history, Blacks enter the lavish Ponce de Leon Hotel ballroom as guests rather than maids or bus boys (they are seated by themselves at two "Negro" tables). But St Augustine's restaurants, lunch counters, motels, and other facilities remain segregated, as does the Ponce de Leon after the Vice President leaves. And the next day when NAACP leaders show up for a promised meeting with the City Commission, they are shown to an empty room with a tape recorder. They are told to record their complaints because no white official will meet with them in person.
By early June, the hope that had soared at the time of LBJ's visit is dying. Nothing has come from the tape-recorded grievances, and so far as the city is concerned, the 400th anniversary celebrations are going to be on a segregated basis. Dr. Robert Hayling, a young Black dentist recently arrived in the city, becomes head of the St. Augustine NAACP Youth Council (SAYC). He had been active with the Nashville Sitin Movement in 1960 while a dental student at Mehary Medical College, and he announces that unless there is some tangible progress, the young people of St. Augustine are ready to begin nonviolent direct action like those in Birmingham. A few days later he leads small groups of pickets at the local Woolworths to protest segregation. They carry signs reading: "If We Spend Money Here Why Can't We Eat Here?" " http://www.crmvet.org/tim/tim63b.htm#1963staug — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jim.Callahan,Orlando ( talk • contribs) 21:51, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved. A numerical majority favors this move, and the policy arguments of the opposers weren't very convincing. User:Montanabw offered a song and a novel as examples, but for them the rule of MOS:CT applies. The St. Augustine movement does not fall under that rule since it is not a composition title. MOS:CAPS relies on usage in sources to figure out which terms are proper names and thus require title case. User:Dicklyon and User:Dohn joe supplied the needed sources to evaluate this. The answer to User:Randy Kryn's point about consistency is that Wikipedia doesn't have to be any more consistent than the sources. The capitalization of each term depends on how that particular term is used in published writings. EdJohnston ( talk) 00:57, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
St. Augustine Movement → St. Augustine movement – Discussion started to allow move-warriors to discuss their concerns based on WP policies/guidelines and citations to relevant external sources. DMacks ( talk) 20:40, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
St Benedict should probably be added to this article somewhere. MLK used to use the rectory for major meetings and such. natemup ( talk) 01:45, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
I could've swore the article mentioned that many of the civil rights marchers were sent to the NRHP-listed Old St. Johns County Jail. which was briefly reopened just for them. --------- User:DanTD ( talk) 16:52, 13 November 2022 (UTC)