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A fact from Spyridon Marinatos appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 5 November 2023 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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The result was: promoted by
Lightbursttalk 21:16, 28 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Very extensive, thorough and well referenced article. AGF on offline sources, but having reviewed the author's work in the past I have no concerns. Hooks are interesting and referenced. QPQ done. Good to go.
Constantine ✍ 10:25, 26 October 2023 (UTC)reply
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Would the cemeteries of Tsepi and Vranas warrant
WP:REDLINKs?
I've done so; Vranas has a Greek wiki article. There's probably enough to pull together something short on Tsepi. UndercoverClassicistT·
C 17:36, 15 March 2024 (UTC)reply
He conducted excavations on Crete between 1919 and 1952 This reads as if Marinatos was active only in Crete, and continuously so until 1952. Later in the text it is clear that this is not so, but still some rephrasing might be in order, e.g. 'He would go on to periodically conduct excavations in Crete until 1952'...
antiquities traders:[26] he recommend replacing with full stop and splitting the sentences. Ditto for United States: his former teacher Karo and to dispose of: she handed them
Done, except for the last: I think it reads better with the colon, as the two halves are closely linked, and it isn't that much longer unsplit. UndercoverClassicistT·
C 17:36, 15 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Nazi-occupied Europe is this still in 1936-37? The Nazis had not even occupied Austria at that time.
Still to do: I vaguely remember it being Prague and Austria, but as you say, the dates don't really add up. Will check the source UndercoverClassicistT·
C 17:36, 15 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Done: it was 1939: I've rearranged material to suit the fixed chronology. UndercoverClassicistT·
C 20:14, 19 March 2024 (UTC)reply
I think I've got these (that is, where linked twice in body text - I've kept duplinks in captions and infobox, as permitted by the MoS): kept the link to "Regime of the Colonels", which does technically duplicate "Greek junta", but I think it's useful to help establish that these are the same thing. UndercoverClassicistT·
C 17:36, 15 March 2024 (UTC)reply
First directorate, professorship and Messenia
Perhaps 'directorship'? 'Directorate' suggests a department...
the battlefield of Thermopylae since I fear many people won't know what this is and why it is that important, perhaps some context is necessary (brief description and date?)
Done. There's a lot more to say about the ideological importance of the battle, but I don't think it can really be said here. UndercoverClassicistT·
C 17:36, 15 March 2024 (UTC)reply
1883 eruption of Krakatoa link to the article on the actual eruption
was forced to resign in 1958 by the Prime Minister, Konstantinos Karamanlis any idea why?
Not without going into OR, though I'd imagine his close association with Metaxas and tendency to upset everyone under him had something to do with it. UndercoverClassicistT·
C 17:36, 15 March 2024 (UTC)reply
I get it, and Karamanlis was also not the most easy-going person...
Constantine ✍ 17:08, 24 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Politics
the quasi-fascist dictatorship of Ioannis Metaxas, which began in July 1938 it began in August 1936
whom Metaxas had restored to the throne incorrect, George II had been restored by
Georgios Kondylis; rather, Metaxas owed his power to George II and the royalist officers who dominated the army. The Metaxas regime was a covert royal dictatorship, which is why the return of George after the war was such a major political issue.
Still to do: I don't disagree here, just need to find a citation. UndercoverClassicistT·
C 17:36, 15 March 2024 (UTC)reply
the historian Yanis Kordatos might be worthwhile to note that Kordatos was also a communist who was persecuted by Metaxas
Still to do: I don't disagree here, just need to find a citation. UndercoverClassicistT·
C 17:36, 15 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Somewhat done: I failed to find a source directly saying that K. was persecuted by Metaxas, but added one about his communism. Do you have one for the other bit? UndercoverClassicistT·
C 20:24, 19 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Am currently a bit handicapped as regards access to my books. But him being a communist should be enough to clarify his feelings towards Metaxas.
Constantine ✍ 17:08, 24 March 2024 (UTC)reply
left-wing newspaper Rizospastis not just left-wing: it was (and still is) the official organ of the Greek Communist Party
Still to do: I don't disagree here, just need to find a citation. UndercoverClassicistT·
C 17:36, 15 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Done -- I could probably knock something together here, but it would be a challenge. Might just be able to get it over the GNG line. UndercoverClassicistT·
C 17:36, 15 March 2024 (UTC)reply
That's it for a first pass. The article is the usual thorough work, an interesting and well-written read that captures the life and work of its subject very well.
Constantine ✍ 10:28, 15 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Thanks as ever, Constantine -- all looks very sensible. Will get through over the next couple of days. UndercoverClassicistT·
C 11:51, 15 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Mostly sorted now: just a few where I need to find citations. UndercoverClassicistT·
C 17:36, 15 March 2024 (UTC)reply
@
Cplakidas: All done now, I think. One semi-done on Kordatos and Metaxas: a hand here would be appreciated. UndercoverClassicistT·
C 20:31, 19 March 2024 (UTC)reply
I had another read-through, my comments have been addressed, and I cannot find anything more to nit-pick about. As stated, an excellent piece of work, well above the usual GA standard. I will pass it now.
Constantine ✍ 17:08, 24 March 2024 (UTC)reply
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A fact from Spyridon Marinatos appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 5 November 2023 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by
Lightbursttalk 21:16, 28 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Very extensive, thorough and well referenced article. AGF on offline sources, but having reviewed the author's work in the past I have no concerns. Hooks are interesting and referenced. QPQ done. Good to go.
Constantine ✍ 10:25, 26 October 2023 (UTC)reply
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Would the cemeteries of Tsepi and Vranas warrant
WP:REDLINKs?
I've done so; Vranas has a Greek wiki article. There's probably enough to pull together something short on Tsepi. UndercoverClassicistT·
C 17:36, 15 March 2024 (UTC)reply
He conducted excavations on Crete between 1919 and 1952 This reads as if Marinatos was active only in Crete, and continuously so until 1952. Later in the text it is clear that this is not so, but still some rephrasing might be in order, e.g. 'He would go on to periodically conduct excavations in Crete until 1952'...
antiquities traders:[26] he recommend replacing with full stop and splitting the sentences. Ditto for United States: his former teacher Karo and to dispose of: she handed them
Done, except for the last: I think it reads better with the colon, as the two halves are closely linked, and it isn't that much longer unsplit. UndercoverClassicistT·
C 17:36, 15 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Nazi-occupied Europe is this still in 1936-37? The Nazis had not even occupied Austria at that time.
Still to do: I vaguely remember it being Prague and Austria, but as you say, the dates don't really add up. Will check the source UndercoverClassicistT·
C 17:36, 15 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Done: it was 1939: I've rearranged material to suit the fixed chronology. UndercoverClassicistT·
C 20:14, 19 March 2024 (UTC)reply
I think I've got these (that is, where linked twice in body text - I've kept duplinks in captions and infobox, as permitted by the MoS): kept the link to "Regime of the Colonels", which does technically duplicate "Greek junta", but I think it's useful to help establish that these are the same thing. UndercoverClassicistT·
C 17:36, 15 March 2024 (UTC)reply
First directorate, professorship and Messenia
Perhaps 'directorship'? 'Directorate' suggests a department...
the battlefield of Thermopylae since I fear many people won't know what this is and why it is that important, perhaps some context is necessary (brief description and date?)
Done. There's a lot more to say about the ideological importance of the battle, but I don't think it can really be said here. UndercoverClassicistT·
C 17:36, 15 March 2024 (UTC)reply
1883 eruption of Krakatoa link to the article on the actual eruption
was forced to resign in 1958 by the Prime Minister, Konstantinos Karamanlis any idea why?
Not without going into OR, though I'd imagine his close association with Metaxas and tendency to upset everyone under him had something to do with it. UndercoverClassicistT·
C 17:36, 15 March 2024 (UTC)reply
I get it, and Karamanlis was also not the most easy-going person...
Constantine ✍ 17:08, 24 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Politics
the quasi-fascist dictatorship of Ioannis Metaxas, which began in July 1938 it began in August 1936
whom Metaxas had restored to the throne incorrect, George II had been restored by
Georgios Kondylis; rather, Metaxas owed his power to George II and the royalist officers who dominated the army. The Metaxas regime was a covert royal dictatorship, which is why the return of George after the war was such a major political issue.
Still to do: I don't disagree here, just need to find a citation. UndercoverClassicistT·
C 17:36, 15 March 2024 (UTC)reply
the historian Yanis Kordatos might be worthwhile to note that Kordatos was also a communist who was persecuted by Metaxas
Still to do: I don't disagree here, just need to find a citation. UndercoverClassicistT·
C 17:36, 15 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Somewhat done: I failed to find a source directly saying that K. was persecuted by Metaxas, but added one about his communism. Do you have one for the other bit? UndercoverClassicistT·
C 20:24, 19 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Am currently a bit handicapped as regards access to my books. But him being a communist should be enough to clarify his feelings towards Metaxas.
Constantine ✍ 17:08, 24 March 2024 (UTC)reply
left-wing newspaper Rizospastis not just left-wing: it was (and still is) the official organ of the Greek Communist Party
Still to do: I don't disagree here, just need to find a citation. UndercoverClassicistT·
C 17:36, 15 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Done -- I could probably knock something together here, but it would be a challenge. Might just be able to get it over the GNG line. UndercoverClassicistT·
C 17:36, 15 March 2024 (UTC)reply
That's it for a first pass. The article is the usual thorough work, an interesting and well-written read that captures the life and work of its subject very well.
Constantine ✍ 10:28, 15 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Thanks as ever, Constantine -- all looks very sensible. Will get through over the next couple of days. UndercoverClassicistT·
C 11:51, 15 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Mostly sorted now: just a few where I need to find citations. UndercoverClassicistT·
C 17:36, 15 March 2024 (UTC)reply
@
Cplakidas: All done now, I think. One semi-done on Kordatos and Metaxas: a hand here would be appreciated. UndercoverClassicistT·
C 20:31, 19 March 2024 (UTC)reply
I had another read-through, my comments have been addressed, and I cannot find anything more to nit-pick about. As stated, an excellent piece of work, well above the usual GA standard. I will pass it now.
Constantine ✍ 17:08, 24 March 2024 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.