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does this involve inetrstitial bonding - that is the question and with what element??? —This unsigned comment was added by 216.132.2.226 ( talk • contribs) .
Piano wire, lockpicks and stage swords? All that steel-making technology just for this?
I'm surprised spring steel isn't used for, say, springs? Doh. 24.85.143.66 ( talk) 05:58, 18 April 2011 (UTC) It is of course added.
Definitely used in swords. I don't know of a reference per se but a lot of catalogs. Is that worthy as a reference? I'll hunt around for a proper reference too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.192.21.14 ( talk) 22:33, 10 February 2014 (UTC) Check out 'AWE me' on Youtube. He uses a lot of spring steel to forge prop weapons. Common grade for swords is EN45 (BS970), equivalent 250A53. Some stage / reconstruction swords now laser cut from 1075 ready hardened sheet. Spring steel was the best material for swords because the raitio of hardness, or how well the sword will keep its edge, and because it has spring like properties it unlike traditional swords won't crack under pressure instead bending before springing backwards back into its original position. Spring steel is still the best known material for making a sword specifically for its ratio of toughness and hardness that is known to man as most other hard metals would crack under the strain of being used as a sword. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.14.104.64 ( talk) 14:08, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
Although the manufacture of stage swords using spring steel is common, I haven't seen any sources about its use in historical weaponry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.95.135.247 ( talk) 16:52, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
It's fairly common in reproductions, for example Dynasty Forge uses 1095 for their Katanas. https://www.dynastyforge.com/guide.php 71.86.140.226 ( talk) 16:09, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
Perhaps stage people still use carbon steel but blades for competitive fencing have been made only from maraging steel for forty years or more. Much safer because it won't snap off and leave a jagged razor sharp point. John G Hasler ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:47, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
Is it possible to cast spring steel and get a usable spring? What about sintering or MIM to produce complex leaf springs? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.41.40.24 ( talk) 15:46, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
The article summary says that the critical ingrediant is silicon, yet in the table of common spring steels listed, I find other metals, and then sulfer, but no mention of silicon. Is this a mistake? If it's not a mistake, then the article is not self consistent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.70.15.180 ( talk) 05:52, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
It also says "Nickel is the key component to most spring steel alloys." Yet only one alloy has it listed? 202.74.196.221 ( talk) 09:23, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
I think there could be more information added, such as the history of spring steel.
In the article, why does the 301 have max hardness 42 yet yield 1 gigapascal? Given those two are normally related, that hardness seems too low for that yield or vice versa, is there some source for this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nereth ( talk • contribs) 15:02, 26 August 2013 (UTC) I think you are correct. Typically to qualify as spring steel 301 is normally rolled to a minimum hardness of 380 vpn (1215 m/mm sq yield approx)
A link to the Springbar article might make a good addition to this page — either worked into the article content itself (types of products made with spring steel) or in "See also." Xlea Nollmav ( talk) 01:21, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
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does this involve inetrstitial bonding - that is the question and with what element??? —This unsigned comment was added by 216.132.2.226 ( talk • contribs) .
Piano wire, lockpicks and stage swords? All that steel-making technology just for this?
I'm surprised spring steel isn't used for, say, springs? Doh. 24.85.143.66 ( talk) 05:58, 18 April 2011 (UTC) It is of course added.
Definitely used in swords. I don't know of a reference per se but a lot of catalogs. Is that worthy as a reference? I'll hunt around for a proper reference too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.192.21.14 ( talk) 22:33, 10 February 2014 (UTC) Check out 'AWE me' on Youtube. He uses a lot of spring steel to forge prop weapons. Common grade for swords is EN45 (BS970), equivalent 250A53. Some stage / reconstruction swords now laser cut from 1075 ready hardened sheet. Spring steel was the best material for swords because the raitio of hardness, or how well the sword will keep its edge, and because it has spring like properties it unlike traditional swords won't crack under pressure instead bending before springing backwards back into its original position. Spring steel is still the best known material for making a sword specifically for its ratio of toughness and hardness that is known to man as most other hard metals would crack under the strain of being used as a sword. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.14.104.64 ( talk) 14:08, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
Although the manufacture of stage swords using spring steel is common, I haven't seen any sources about its use in historical weaponry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.95.135.247 ( talk) 16:52, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
It's fairly common in reproductions, for example Dynasty Forge uses 1095 for their Katanas. https://www.dynastyforge.com/guide.php 71.86.140.226 ( talk) 16:09, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
Perhaps stage people still use carbon steel but blades for competitive fencing have been made only from maraging steel for forty years or more. Much safer because it won't snap off and leave a jagged razor sharp point. John G Hasler ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:47, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
Is it possible to cast spring steel and get a usable spring? What about sintering or MIM to produce complex leaf springs? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.41.40.24 ( talk) 15:46, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
The article summary says that the critical ingrediant is silicon, yet in the table of common spring steels listed, I find other metals, and then sulfer, but no mention of silicon. Is this a mistake? If it's not a mistake, then the article is not self consistent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.70.15.180 ( talk) 05:52, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
It also says "Nickel is the key component to most spring steel alloys." Yet only one alloy has it listed? 202.74.196.221 ( talk) 09:23, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
I think there could be more information added, such as the history of spring steel.
In the article, why does the 301 have max hardness 42 yet yield 1 gigapascal? Given those two are normally related, that hardness seems too low for that yield or vice versa, is there some source for this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nereth ( talk • contribs) 15:02, 26 August 2013 (UTC) I think you are correct. Typically to qualify as spring steel 301 is normally rolled to a minimum hardness of 380 vpn (1215 m/mm sq yield approx)
A link to the Springbar article might make a good addition to this page — either worked into the article content itself (types of products made with spring steel) or in "See also." Xlea Nollmav ( talk) 01:21, 23 August 2023 (UTC)