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You've given about as little information as possible. The spleen has no pain innervation, although some think that contraction of the smooth muscle may explain the pain felt when exercising on a full stomach. If the pain is continuous or occurs at rest then think left lower lobe of lung, pancreas, stomach, colon. JFW | T@lk 20:27, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
Could someone please clarify an issue, please?
I'm spleenless and I'm also about to turn 21. I heard from a friend that i couldn't drink alcohol because of the lack of a spleen. Is this true?
Perhaps someone should add a section on what you can do with a spleen as opposed to what you can't...
-Ryan
I have issue with the statement of use of antibiotics outside of medical advice. The use of Penicillin daily for life is most harmful purely for the fact that the bacterium trying to be prevented would become resistant to the low dose. The purpose for a "course" of antibiotics is to make sure all possibilities of resistance developing is wiped out. You should ALWAYS get medical diagnosis before starting a course of antibiotics.
The " Etymology and cultural views" section of this article links the spleen to black bile and melancholy. But the Four humours article links it to yellow bile and anger. Me, I think the latter is probably correct, but someone shoudl research and definitively fix this. — Steve Summit ( talk) 23:43, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
There was no citation regarding the statement that the abscence of a spleen has been linked to erectile dysfunction in certain trials. Jfournier 13:04, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
What infections, specifically, are an individual predisposed to after the removal of the spleen? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Louis reed ( talk • contribs)
How do 4.1 out of 740 people die of something? Is this 4.1 per 100? Or was there some way that they classified him as 1/10th dead or 1/10th dead because of this disease.
The section states: "The most important functions of the spleen are mechanical filtration, which removes senescent red blood cells and control of infection." I'm having trouble parsing this. Should it read, "The most important [function] of the spleen [is] mechanical filtration, which removes (senescent red blood cells and) control of infection," or is there just a comma missing that would set off a parenthetical phrase, as in, "The most important functions of the spleen are mechanical filtration, which removes senescent red blood cells, and control of infection"?
It seems that spleens are ruptured pretty easily-- if true, why is it so? Also, how do the spleenless deal with old red blood cells if they don't have a spleen to help in the process of destroying them? Physiologically, how does a spleenless human adapt? Possible infections aside, does a spleenless person have any noticeable troubles in daily life that a spleen possessor wouldn't have, e.g. circulatory problems that hinder athletic persuits? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.49.146.16 ( talk • contribs)
Dlh-stablelights 21:00, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
How would one know if they ruptured or damaged their spleen? And what happens to them if it goes unnoticed?
Because RBCs are still metabolizing while in the red pulp (the majority of the plasma has been removed), acid byproducts build up, causing a drop in the pH of the environment. Does anyone know what the pH of the spleen is? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.90.113.62 ( talk) 23:27, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
This might be a silly question, but I was trying to explain a Korean what the spleen does, so I got the idea of just looking it up here and click on the korean link on the left... If there was one. Actually maybe there is, but I don't know what spleen is in Korean... So if anyone can help out it would be nice. (Either confirm there is no Korean article or just add the missing link) -- 91.19.183.173 —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 15:06, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
It doesn't seem very scientific. I think abdominal cavity would sound better. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.13.27.117 ( talk • contribs) 2007-05-29
This is the description of this page as it appears on Google:
Spleen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The spleen is an organ found in all rappers with important roles in regard to songs and the immune system. In rappers, it is located on the vocal cords. ...
Anatomy - Function - Effect of removal - Disorders en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spleen - Cached - Similar
111.223.139.118 ( talk) 18:00, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
In the Anatomy section it says: "... Human females lack this organ, as they tend to have increased kidney functions ...". This is not true, females DO have a spleen! I don't know where this idea comes from, but it is not correct. It is true that female's spleens are a bit smaller (males approx. 165 grams vs females approx. 150 grams). Please correct this.
In the venous sinusesof the spleen, approx. 300ml of blood is stored in humans, contradictory to what is written here. (McCance and Huether, Pathophysiology 5th Edtn.) —Preceding
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110.175.220.159 (
talk)
08:36, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
This needs more information on the gross anatomy of the spleen, its relations, bloody supply, etc. Going by the article, am I supposed to infer that the spleen levitates in place and teleports its oxygen and bloody supply in from the kidneys? Nonagonal Spider ( talk) 19:01, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
In cetaceans and manatees it tends to be quite small, but in deep diving pinnipeds it can be quite massive, owing to its function of storing red blood cells. Also if your spleen happens to be enlarged you shall rest and keep hyderated but accasionally you may go on walks but do not run or jump around for the health of your body and could cause eruption of the spleen.
The sentence beginning with "also" should be redacted. G. Robert Shiplett 22:39, 18 April 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grshiplett ( talk • contribs)
Why is there oriental philosophy here? — Preceding
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130.216.30.126 (
talk)
08:29, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
Umm... Appears the intestines have been left to right reversed in the image. Connection of the transverse colon to the descending colon is on the left side, same side as the spleen; not opposite as pictured. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.253.194.1 ( talk) 16:45, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
To my eye, the opening paragraph is muddled and duplicative. Most of it, especially the details about function, should be moved to the appropriate undersection. At the very least, it should be re-organized so that we do not jump from topic to topic as we move from sentence to sentence. Remember that the proper structure for a paragraph is topic sentence, supportive sentences, summary/conclusion. Poihths ( talk) 14:12, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
Horse spleen. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12648465/ Could this information be rolled into the article? Horses apparently dope their blood with extra blood from the spleen when running.
What is the purpose of the spleen? Why don't we take them out at birth? if the body had a corporation why would they not fire it?
what is the function of the spleen?
I have a question. Could the swelling of a spleen go away and come back? What would cause this? I am the person who wrote the statement below who had there spleen removed. For me the swelling came and went and the pain was in the left side. My spleen was always swollen to a point and I was a side show for doctors. However to answer your question it had to with physical activity like running or sports. goodluck
I am always amazed when I read about the spleen and all the difference of opinions. YOU should ask the people who are affected. My spleen, gallbaldder and appendix were all removed when I as 14 years old and I am now in my 40's. My spleen weighed 430 cc's which is three to four times larger than it should have been. I was also diagnosed with hereditary sperocytosis too. Let me just say with all do respect to the doctors and researchers stop saying this is NOT a vital organ and it does not affect your health afterwards except for a few infections. There our other people like me that it is much more serious. Yes I have had sepsis, mono and I almost died with a 104' temperature when I was about 17. The list goes on and for some of us it just gets worse with time. I will leave it at that. But please stop saying the spleen is not a vital organ. Sometimes you have no choice but please consider any options carefully with your physician.
Vital organs are ones a human cannot live without. The brain, the heart, the lungs, the kidneys, and the liver are the most important ones. Other organs like the stomach, the colon, and yes, the spleen, are extremely important to most of us, but they can be removed without killing a person or requiring them to live by artificial means. Thus, they are non-vital. I think all researchers and physicians recognize the importance of the spleen and would not remove it unless absolutely necessary. Zfreeland ( talk) 06:34, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
I don't think it would be worthwhile at this point to add a "popular culture" section to the article, but I think it might be worth acknowledging the fact that this organ's name gets used quite often in comedic contexts. For example, there was once a Super Dave Osborne bit in which, after his usual disaster, he was saying that his spleen was "broken", and shortly after the line "I'm sure gonna miss my spleen" got one of the biggest laughs of the whole bit. It's not really the function of the organ itself as much as the name. So I'm going to go ahead and add the Inherently funny word article to the "see also" list for now, and if nobody has any objections, I'll try to make sure to add a mention of "spleen" in that article. - Ugliness Man 15:24, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
I agree. 'OW MY SPLEEN!' is one of the most popular phrases following a violent slapstick moment. example, guy falls out of tree or window. friend calls down to see if he is ok. guy calls back up 'ow my spleen!'. i would be here all day if i listed all the comedies which have used it before. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.75.154.39 ( talk) 22:11, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
I think so too. In fact, I came to this article because after laughing at another of the "My spleen!" jokes in Brewster Rockit, I realized that I didn't actually know what I was laughing at. Poihths ( talk) 14:12, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
I also think a sentence on this in the "cultural views" section would be worthwhile. The trouble would be finding a source of the sort that's considered up to snuff round here, which comes out and says it (as opposed to just a motley collection of individual uses)... any of you got one? 4pq1injbok ( talk) 23:13, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
Can i have pain in my spleen after a gallbladder surgery? and also and endoscopy where the doctor remove a slush that i have on my track close to the pancreas?
- Absolutely. I had a gallbladder blockage that caused spleen pain, and the pain went away the instant I released the GB with homeopathic Staphysagria. In 5 Elements philosophy, the gallbladder controls the energy releases of the spleen and pancreas, and when it is ill or absent, waste energy backs up into those organs. That's why bad gallbladders cause pancreas problems including pancreatitis immediately after GB removal and adult diabetes. One spleen effect is that gallbladder problems reduce bile flow and cause bilirubin, a constituent of bile, to back up through the liver and into the spleen. There are also other natural therapies that may improve bile flow and help the body compensate for the missing GB if problems persist, and that would help the spleen, pancreas, and liver stay healthy long term. ~~Buck — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.240.12.205 ( talk) 19:29, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
There is quite a lot of vandalism going on on this page. Someone should revert the edits made by 213.233.147.126 and fix some of the more egregious vandalism on the page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.254.4.12 ( talk) 19:09, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
In the intro paragraph, it says "Thus, life is possible when the spleen is removed." I'm not an expert on human anatomy, but isn't this not true? Or am I misinformed? Someone knowledgeable please check this. Jonathansuh ( talk) 01:08, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Not mentioned in text. 81.159.93.150 ( talk) 01:00, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
No mention of this? I have eaten spleen in a number of places.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.14.240.124 ( talk) 00:35, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Back in the '50s and '60s, my mother used to buy beef spleen (called "melts" for some reason) cook it up and give pieces of it to our cat. I tasted it it and found it delicious. I doubt that you can get it any longer, although a butcher might be able to order it for you. In fact, that's what brought me here today, curiosity about it as an organ meat. JDZeff ( talk) 18:03, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
As above Tom (LT) ( talk) 06:32, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
I'd merge it all now as all of them are embryonic. And split out later if the spleen article triples in size. I doubt anyone will look up red or white pulp on their own. Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 04:00, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
Sensible to have this essential facet, which only has a small article, merged into a section in the main article. Improves the readability and experience for readers, also allowing comparison with White pulp at the same time Tom (LT) ( talk) 06:32, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
Splenic disease became less comprehensive and less referenced than this article, and neither was long enough to justify a wp:Split, so I merged to it here. Links to Splenic disease were mainly from Template:Lymphatic organ disease, which now redirects to the corresponding section in Spleen. Mikael Häggström ( talk) 09:05, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Spleen's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "pmid9486895":
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:46, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
I was listening to the Economists ( https://econ.st/2FvKJzz) today talk about the Bajau, a people of the Malay Archipelago, whose genetic changes has caused the spleens to enlarge which in turn helps them in their dive response where blood vessels constrict in the extremities, heart rates slows down and red blood cells are released. The enlarged spleen caused by these genetic changes allows them to stay under water longer although all humans have this response to a lesser extent.
I went to this article and found no mention of the dive response and would like to have that added to other functions. To read ... hypovolemia [15], hypoxia. [16], and as part of the dive response — Preceding TSpot-SF ( talk) 09:00, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
I agree with your assessment here. There is far more to the spleen than the article indicates. It far more than a "filter" that "occasionally" supplies "extra blood cells" 1. It is of vital importance in reading the "debris" of an infection that ends up in the blood. 2. It helps programs white blood cells with this information, and sends them to the marrow for reproduction. 3. Also, as an engineer, I would describe it as a "blood capacitor" It stores varying amounts of oxygenated blood in response to external stimuli and demand. It contracts and reinflates as needed for demand. 4. This demand is likely meditated directly through the solar plexus, and via the sympathetic and parasympathetic (vagus) nerve systems. 5. Curious fact: What is the most common cause of death for someone that has had their spleen removed? A: pneumonia 6. How often is someone that has had pneumonia then checked for spleen damage? Almost never. Should they be? Every time. 7. Yet there are so few tests for spleen damage: that needs to change. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.102.68.190 ( talk) 00:13, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi, I'm new here, so sorry if this isn't the right way to point this out. The first paragraph ends "The word spleen comes from Ancient Greek σπλήν (splḗn).[1]", but the page that citation links to doesn't exist. Does this mean the citation should be removed and the sentence should instead end with "[citation needed]"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dricardo ( talk • contribs) 14:25, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
Just parking here [1] some unsourced but broadly pertinent text:
- [In the Talmud] Sanhedrin 21b and Avodah Zarah 44a (and Rashi ibid.) additionally describe how in the ancient world, some runners destroyed their spleens with drugs to try to increase their speed.
- In modern English, "to vent one's spleen" means to vent one's anger, and can apply to both males and females, while the adjective " splenetic" denotes a foul mood.
- [In German] The phrase "einen Spleen haben" means to be quirky or eccentric.
- The French word for the organ itself is rate.
86.172.165.171 ( talk) 14:28, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
What are the high risk after the spleen was removed and what does the person should not eat? Ronewa16 ( talk) 08:53, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 |
You've given about as little information as possible. The spleen has no pain innervation, although some think that contraction of the smooth muscle may explain the pain felt when exercising on a full stomach. If the pain is continuous or occurs at rest then think left lower lobe of lung, pancreas, stomach, colon. JFW | T@lk 20:27, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
Could someone please clarify an issue, please?
I'm spleenless and I'm also about to turn 21. I heard from a friend that i couldn't drink alcohol because of the lack of a spleen. Is this true?
Perhaps someone should add a section on what you can do with a spleen as opposed to what you can't...
-Ryan
I have issue with the statement of use of antibiotics outside of medical advice. The use of Penicillin daily for life is most harmful purely for the fact that the bacterium trying to be prevented would become resistant to the low dose. The purpose for a "course" of antibiotics is to make sure all possibilities of resistance developing is wiped out. You should ALWAYS get medical diagnosis before starting a course of antibiotics.
The " Etymology and cultural views" section of this article links the spleen to black bile and melancholy. But the Four humours article links it to yellow bile and anger. Me, I think the latter is probably correct, but someone shoudl research and definitively fix this. — Steve Summit ( talk) 23:43, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
There was no citation regarding the statement that the abscence of a spleen has been linked to erectile dysfunction in certain trials. Jfournier 13:04, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
What infections, specifically, are an individual predisposed to after the removal of the spleen? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Louis reed ( talk • contribs)
How do 4.1 out of 740 people die of something? Is this 4.1 per 100? Or was there some way that they classified him as 1/10th dead or 1/10th dead because of this disease.
The section states: "The most important functions of the spleen are mechanical filtration, which removes senescent red blood cells and control of infection." I'm having trouble parsing this. Should it read, "The most important [function] of the spleen [is] mechanical filtration, which removes (senescent red blood cells and) control of infection," or is there just a comma missing that would set off a parenthetical phrase, as in, "The most important functions of the spleen are mechanical filtration, which removes senescent red blood cells, and control of infection"?
It seems that spleens are ruptured pretty easily-- if true, why is it so? Also, how do the spleenless deal with old red blood cells if they don't have a spleen to help in the process of destroying them? Physiologically, how does a spleenless human adapt? Possible infections aside, does a spleenless person have any noticeable troubles in daily life that a spleen possessor wouldn't have, e.g. circulatory problems that hinder athletic persuits? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.49.146.16 ( talk • contribs)
Dlh-stablelights 21:00, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
How would one know if they ruptured or damaged their spleen? And what happens to them if it goes unnoticed?
Because RBCs are still metabolizing while in the red pulp (the majority of the plasma has been removed), acid byproducts build up, causing a drop in the pH of the environment. Does anyone know what the pH of the spleen is? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.90.113.62 ( talk) 23:27, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
This might be a silly question, but I was trying to explain a Korean what the spleen does, so I got the idea of just looking it up here and click on the korean link on the left... If there was one. Actually maybe there is, but I don't know what spleen is in Korean... So if anyone can help out it would be nice. (Either confirm there is no Korean article or just add the missing link) -- 91.19.183.173 —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 15:06, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
It doesn't seem very scientific. I think abdominal cavity would sound better. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.13.27.117 ( talk • contribs) 2007-05-29
This is the description of this page as it appears on Google:
Spleen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The spleen is an organ found in all rappers with important roles in regard to songs and the immune system. In rappers, it is located on the vocal cords. ...
Anatomy - Function - Effect of removal - Disorders en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spleen - Cached - Similar
111.223.139.118 ( talk) 18:00, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
In the Anatomy section it says: "... Human females lack this organ, as they tend to have increased kidney functions ...". This is not true, females DO have a spleen! I don't know where this idea comes from, but it is not correct. It is true that female's spleens are a bit smaller (males approx. 165 grams vs females approx. 150 grams). Please correct this.
In the venous sinusesof the spleen, approx. 300ml of blood is stored in humans, contradictory to what is written here. (McCance and Huether, Pathophysiology 5th Edtn.) —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
110.175.220.159 (
talk)
08:36, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
This needs more information on the gross anatomy of the spleen, its relations, bloody supply, etc. Going by the article, am I supposed to infer that the spleen levitates in place and teleports its oxygen and bloody supply in from the kidneys? Nonagonal Spider ( talk) 19:01, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
In cetaceans and manatees it tends to be quite small, but in deep diving pinnipeds it can be quite massive, owing to its function of storing red blood cells. Also if your spleen happens to be enlarged you shall rest and keep hyderated but accasionally you may go on walks but do not run or jump around for the health of your body and could cause eruption of the spleen.
The sentence beginning with "also" should be redacted. G. Robert Shiplett 22:39, 18 April 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grshiplett ( talk • contribs)
Why is there oriental philosophy here? — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
130.216.30.126 (
talk)
08:29, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
Umm... Appears the intestines have been left to right reversed in the image. Connection of the transverse colon to the descending colon is on the left side, same side as the spleen; not opposite as pictured. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.253.194.1 ( talk) 16:45, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
To my eye, the opening paragraph is muddled and duplicative. Most of it, especially the details about function, should be moved to the appropriate undersection. At the very least, it should be re-organized so that we do not jump from topic to topic as we move from sentence to sentence. Remember that the proper structure for a paragraph is topic sentence, supportive sentences, summary/conclusion. Poihths ( talk) 14:12, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
Horse spleen. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12648465/ Could this information be rolled into the article? Horses apparently dope their blood with extra blood from the spleen when running.
What is the purpose of the spleen? Why don't we take them out at birth? if the body had a corporation why would they not fire it?
what is the function of the spleen?
I have a question. Could the swelling of a spleen go away and come back? What would cause this? I am the person who wrote the statement below who had there spleen removed. For me the swelling came and went and the pain was in the left side. My spleen was always swollen to a point and I was a side show for doctors. However to answer your question it had to with physical activity like running or sports. goodluck
I am always amazed when I read about the spleen and all the difference of opinions. YOU should ask the people who are affected. My spleen, gallbaldder and appendix were all removed when I as 14 years old and I am now in my 40's. My spleen weighed 430 cc's which is three to four times larger than it should have been. I was also diagnosed with hereditary sperocytosis too. Let me just say with all do respect to the doctors and researchers stop saying this is NOT a vital organ and it does not affect your health afterwards except for a few infections. There our other people like me that it is much more serious. Yes I have had sepsis, mono and I almost died with a 104' temperature when I was about 17. The list goes on and for some of us it just gets worse with time. I will leave it at that. But please stop saying the spleen is not a vital organ. Sometimes you have no choice but please consider any options carefully with your physician.
Vital organs are ones a human cannot live without. The brain, the heart, the lungs, the kidneys, and the liver are the most important ones. Other organs like the stomach, the colon, and yes, the spleen, are extremely important to most of us, but they can be removed without killing a person or requiring them to live by artificial means. Thus, they are non-vital. I think all researchers and physicians recognize the importance of the spleen and would not remove it unless absolutely necessary. Zfreeland ( talk) 06:34, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
I don't think it would be worthwhile at this point to add a "popular culture" section to the article, but I think it might be worth acknowledging the fact that this organ's name gets used quite often in comedic contexts. For example, there was once a Super Dave Osborne bit in which, after his usual disaster, he was saying that his spleen was "broken", and shortly after the line "I'm sure gonna miss my spleen" got one of the biggest laughs of the whole bit. It's not really the function of the organ itself as much as the name. So I'm going to go ahead and add the Inherently funny word article to the "see also" list for now, and if nobody has any objections, I'll try to make sure to add a mention of "spleen" in that article. - Ugliness Man 15:24, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
I agree. 'OW MY SPLEEN!' is one of the most popular phrases following a violent slapstick moment. example, guy falls out of tree or window. friend calls down to see if he is ok. guy calls back up 'ow my spleen!'. i would be here all day if i listed all the comedies which have used it before. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.75.154.39 ( talk) 22:11, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
I think so too. In fact, I came to this article because after laughing at another of the "My spleen!" jokes in Brewster Rockit, I realized that I didn't actually know what I was laughing at. Poihths ( talk) 14:12, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
I also think a sentence on this in the "cultural views" section would be worthwhile. The trouble would be finding a source of the sort that's considered up to snuff round here, which comes out and says it (as opposed to just a motley collection of individual uses)... any of you got one? 4pq1injbok ( talk) 23:13, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
Can i have pain in my spleen after a gallbladder surgery? and also and endoscopy where the doctor remove a slush that i have on my track close to the pancreas?
- Absolutely. I had a gallbladder blockage that caused spleen pain, and the pain went away the instant I released the GB with homeopathic Staphysagria. In 5 Elements philosophy, the gallbladder controls the energy releases of the spleen and pancreas, and when it is ill or absent, waste energy backs up into those organs. That's why bad gallbladders cause pancreas problems including pancreatitis immediately after GB removal and adult diabetes. One spleen effect is that gallbladder problems reduce bile flow and cause bilirubin, a constituent of bile, to back up through the liver and into the spleen. There are also other natural therapies that may improve bile flow and help the body compensate for the missing GB if problems persist, and that would help the spleen, pancreas, and liver stay healthy long term. ~~Buck — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.240.12.205 ( talk) 19:29, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
There is quite a lot of vandalism going on on this page. Someone should revert the edits made by 213.233.147.126 and fix some of the more egregious vandalism on the page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.254.4.12 ( talk) 19:09, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
In the intro paragraph, it says "Thus, life is possible when the spleen is removed." I'm not an expert on human anatomy, but isn't this not true? Or am I misinformed? Someone knowledgeable please check this. Jonathansuh ( talk) 01:08, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Not mentioned in text. 81.159.93.150 ( talk) 01:00, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
No mention of this? I have eaten spleen in a number of places.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.14.240.124 ( talk) 00:35, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Back in the '50s and '60s, my mother used to buy beef spleen (called "melts" for some reason) cook it up and give pieces of it to our cat. I tasted it it and found it delicious. I doubt that you can get it any longer, although a butcher might be able to order it for you. In fact, that's what brought me here today, curiosity about it as an organ meat. JDZeff ( talk) 18:03, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
As above Tom (LT) ( talk) 06:32, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
I'd merge it all now as all of them are embryonic. And split out later if the spleen article triples in size. I doubt anyone will look up red or white pulp on their own. Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 04:00, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
Sensible to have this essential facet, which only has a small article, merged into a section in the main article. Improves the readability and experience for readers, also allowing comparison with White pulp at the same time Tom (LT) ( talk) 06:32, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
Splenic disease became less comprehensive and less referenced than this article, and neither was long enough to justify a wp:Split, so I merged to it here. Links to Splenic disease were mainly from Template:Lymphatic organ disease, which now redirects to the corresponding section in Spleen. Mikael Häggström ( talk) 09:05, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Spleen's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "pmid9486895":
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:46, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
I was listening to the Economists ( https://econ.st/2FvKJzz) today talk about the Bajau, a people of the Malay Archipelago, whose genetic changes has caused the spleens to enlarge which in turn helps them in their dive response where blood vessels constrict in the extremities, heart rates slows down and red blood cells are released. The enlarged spleen caused by these genetic changes allows them to stay under water longer although all humans have this response to a lesser extent.
I went to this article and found no mention of the dive response and would like to have that added to other functions. To read ... hypovolemia [15], hypoxia. [16], and as part of the dive response — Preceding TSpot-SF ( talk) 09:00, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
I agree with your assessment here. There is far more to the spleen than the article indicates. It far more than a "filter" that "occasionally" supplies "extra blood cells" 1. It is of vital importance in reading the "debris" of an infection that ends up in the blood. 2. It helps programs white blood cells with this information, and sends them to the marrow for reproduction. 3. Also, as an engineer, I would describe it as a "blood capacitor" It stores varying amounts of oxygenated blood in response to external stimuli and demand. It contracts and reinflates as needed for demand. 4. This demand is likely meditated directly through the solar plexus, and via the sympathetic and parasympathetic (vagus) nerve systems. 5. Curious fact: What is the most common cause of death for someone that has had their spleen removed? A: pneumonia 6. How often is someone that has had pneumonia then checked for spleen damage? Almost never. Should they be? Every time. 7. Yet there are so few tests for spleen damage: that needs to change. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.102.68.190 ( talk) 00:13, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi, I'm new here, so sorry if this isn't the right way to point this out. The first paragraph ends "The word spleen comes from Ancient Greek σπλήν (splḗn).[1]", but the page that citation links to doesn't exist. Does this mean the citation should be removed and the sentence should instead end with "[citation needed]"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dricardo ( talk • contribs) 14:25, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
Just parking here [1] some unsourced but broadly pertinent text:
- [In the Talmud] Sanhedrin 21b and Avodah Zarah 44a (and Rashi ibid.) additionally describe how in the ancient world, some runners destroyed their spleens with drugs to try to increase their speed.
- In modern English, "to vent one's spleen" means to vent one's anger, and can apply to both males and females, while the adjective " splenetic" denotes a foul mood.
- [In German] The phrase "einen Spleen haben" means to be quirky or eccentric.
- The French word for the organ itself is rate.
86.172.165.171 ( talk) 14:28, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
What are the high risk after the spleen was removed and what does the person should not eat? Ronewa16 ( talk) 08:53, 20 May 2021 (UTC)