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Two people supported a merge of Spiritualist Church with Spiritualism, and two (myself included) opposed. It makes sense to separate the historical movement Spiritualism (1840s-1920s) from the current organization of Spiritualist Churches--the earlier movement had little organization and had a set of beliefs and practices quite different from the syncretic practices of the current churches. This page would be a good place for people familiar with current Spiritualist practice to contribute, and the Spiritualism page would be the best place for contributions for people interested in the history of the religious movement. This page does need a lot of work. Since it's about organized religion, there should be something about organizations, founding dates, memberships, etc., as well as about dogma and liturgy. Anthon.Eff 16:55, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
The problem is that American Spiritualism was disorganised and lacked institutions, but there are many multi-volume works on the British denominations in the historic period. I shall edit and add some material on this subject, a very brief overview, but it might make more of the case for putting them back together. The article also starts almost incomprehensibly, without reference to Hydesville or the Fox Sisters? I really would advocate inclusion in the main Spiritualism article, which in turn needs to be properly crosss referenced to the wikipedia material on mediumship.
Er, why is there no Spiritualists National Union article? there was once?!
What I think: A friend has become a spiritualist, and so I checked the wiki page to understand a little more about his faith. I have, however, found the entry to be biased, stating belifs as fact and citation free. Ive done what little I can to clear thing up, but somebody with a little more (to say the least) knollige than me to do a clear out. tl;dr: This article is a bit shit. Somebody make it un-shit.
I understand the suffix 'ism' to mean a belief system that does not have a reasoned foundation. In this context 'spiritualism' can be construed in many definitions. Yes one can be a social phenomenon but it can also be construed in the more general sense of being a belief in a life of the spirit beyond rational explanation, requiring acceptance to a greater of lesser degree. To this extent it could be seen to be synonymous with religion which requires a degree of acceptance. 121.219.58.9 ( talk) 07:00, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Wonewoc, Wisconsin has the Wonewoc Spiritualist Camp.I added this to the article RFD 22:39, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
According to the guidelines ( WP:EL) there are way too many external links in this article. Someone who has been putting in the links would be the best person to clean up a bit. Please read the guidelines first--they have some good suggestions. Thanks! Anthon.Eff 19:21, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
I think a few people added links which had more to do with promoting mediums than actual church organisations. —Preceding
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Hi.
I set up a page for a List_of_Spiritualist_Organizations. I thought it would be good to run it up you flagpole to see if anyone wished to help.
BTW, are not some of those "See also" a little broad?
Thank you. -- Lucyintheskywithdada ( talk) 04:17, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
I just came across the name-origin info for Naramata in "Naramata (Community)". BC Geographical Names. and the founding and naming of the place is connected to the American Spiritualist Church. Naramata retains its spiritualist tradition, I've heard, but I don't know much more about it; perhaps someone here would care to indulge the topic. Skookum1 ( talk) 21:48, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Merge - Spiritualism into Spiritualist Church
I am proposing to merge these because they are the same organization. The product will be better than the current split. Also, the more general title "Spiritualism" should be reserved for the most general concept (people who believe that there is such a thing as spirit). More specific instances should have more specific titles (this particular monotheistic group). Pontiff Greg Bard ( talk) 01:28, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Oppose:
Hi, all -- i am involved in upgrading this article to remove redundancy and to provide all in-line refs in accordance with recent Wikipedia standards. I started today but have to break for some meetings. I will return to this work-in-progress. Also, for those following page developments, i am the not-logged-in poster signed as "Ol' 64" above, opposing the merge of this article into the Spiritualism article. More later.... Catherineyronwode ( talk) 18:35, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
Shalom i just got here as well is this anything to do with Satanic origins just courious? I know i song on Solomon in the Bible or Torah goes like this a verse says:"Let us therefore catch the little foxes that spoil the vine" In the New Testament,Yeshua ha Meshiach is the Vine and the little foxes that spoil it is lies deceptions and the like.As long as i'm connected to the Vine i will bear much fruit but if i'm apart i will not and what fruit is left there the foxes with eat them and or they will rot> Now interesting a branch cannot survive with out the vine connecting...This is questionable the term "Spiritualist" One who knows the difference between good and evil spirits one who is a specialist in this matter?Like as a Psycologist is a specialist of a social aspect rather than a Phsychiatrist is one who specializes in the brain! Ok back to little foxes they destroy things like puppies when they are teething they chew everythinbg is why branches of the vine can get separated! Food for thought?The Truth will set one free! Yeshua is the "WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE! except Him as Savior John 3:16! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.171.163.160 ( talk) 03:55, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
I have added some brief notes on healing , and how it was taught to me and is practiced here in New Zealand- marty. (discuss) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.0.48.125 ( talk) 07:20, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
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I noticed that the link for "Two Worlds", e.g. two worlds magazine was broken, I went to fix it when I ran into it being a protected page. -- 98.58.212.22 ( talk) 16:42, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
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I did a little research and though unable to find anything useful in archive.org, there appears to be a complete archive of the magazine going back to the 1800's located at The Two Worlds (IAPSOP) I have no idea what to do to make this change but thought I would share the ink here -- 98.58.212.22 ( talk) 16:42, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
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Two people supported a merge of Spiritualist Church with Spiritualism, and two (myself included) opposed. It makes sense to separate the historical movement Spiritualism (1840s-1920s) from the current organization of Spiritualist Churches--the earlier movement had little organization and had a set of beliefs and practices quite different from the syncretic practices of the current churches. This page would be a good place for people familiar with current Spiritualist practice to contribute, and the Spiritualism page would be the best place for contributions for people interested in the history of the religious movement. This page does need a lot of work. Since it's about organized religion, there should be something about organizations, founding dates, memberships, etc., as well as about dogma and liturgy. Anthon.Eff 16:55, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
The problem is that American Spiritualism was disorganised and lacked institutions, but there are many multi-volume works on the British denominations in the historic period. I shall edit and add some material on this subject, a very brief overview, but it might make more of the case for putting them back together. The article also starts almost incomprehensibly, without reference to Hydesville or the Fox Sisters? I really would advocate inclusion in the main Spiritualism article, which in turn needs to be properly crosss referenced to the wikipedia material on mediumship.
Er, why is there no Spiritualists National Union article? there was once?!
What I think: A friend has become a spiritualist, and so I checked the wiki page to understand a little more about his faith. I have, however, found the entry to be biased, stating belifs as fact and citation free. Ive done what little I can to clear thing up, but somebody with a little more (to say the least) knollige than me to do a clear out. tl;dr: This article is a bit shit. Somebody make it un-shit.
I understand the suffix 'ism' to mean a belief system that does not have a reasoned foundation. In this context 'spiritualism' can be construed in many definitions. Yes one can be a social phenomenon but it can also be construed in the more general sense of being a belief in a life of the spirit beyond rational explanation, requiring acceptance to a greater of lesser degree. To this extent it could be seen to be synonymous with religion which requires a degree of acceptance. 121.219.58.9 ( talk) 07:00, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Wonewoc, Wisconsin has the Wonewoc Spiritualist Camp.I added this to the article RFD 22:39, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
According to the guidelines ( WP:EL) there are way too many external links in this article. Someone who has been putting in the links would be the best person to clean up a bit. Please read the guidelines first--they have some good suggestions. Thanks! Anthon.Eff 19:21, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
I think a few people added links which had more to do with promoting mediums than actual church organisations. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Dwish (
talk •
contribs)
20:33, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi.
I set up a page for a List_of_Spiritualist_Organizations. I thought it would be good to run it up you flagpole to see if anyone wished to help.
BTW, are not some of those "See also" a little broad?
Thank you. -- Lucyintheskywithdada ( talk) 04:17, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
I just came across the name-origin info for Naramata in "Naramata (Community)". BC Geographical Names. and the founding and naming of the place is connected to the American Spiritualist Church. Naramata retains its spiritualist tradition, I've heard, but I don't know much more about it; perhaps someone here would care to indulge the topic. Skookum1 ( talk) 21:48, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Merge - Spiritualism into Spiritualist Church
I am proposing to merge these because they are the same organization. The product will be better than the current split. Also, the more general title "Spiritualism" should be reserved for the most general concept (people who believe that there is such a thing as spirit). More specific instances should have more specific titles (this particular monotheistic group). Pontiff Greg Bard ( talk) 01:28, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Oppose:
Hi, all -- i am involved in upgrading this article to remove redundancy and to provide all in-line refs in accordance with recent Wikipedia standards. I started today but have to break for some meetings. I will return to this work-in-progress. Also, for those following page developments, i am the not-logged-in poster signed as "Ol' 64" above, opposing the merge of this article into the Spiritualism article. More later.... Catherineyronwode ( talk) 18:35, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
Shalom i just got here as well is this anything to do with Satanic origins just courious? I know i song on Solomon in the Bible or Torah goes like this a verse says:"Let us therefore catch the little foxes that spoil the vine" In the New Testament,Yeshua ha Meshiach is the Vine and the little foxes that spoil it is lies deceptions and the like.As long as i'm connected to the Vine i will bear much fruit but if i'm apart i will not and what fruit is left there the foxes with eat them and or they will rot> Now interesting a branch cannot survive with out the vine connecting...This is questionable the term "Spiritualist" One who knows the difference between good and evil spirits one who is a specialist in this matter?Like as a Psycologist is a specialist of a social aspect rather than a Phsychiatrist is one who specializes in the brain! Ok back to little foxes they destroy things like puppies when they are teething they chew everythinbg is why branches of the vine can get separated! Food for thought?The Truth will set one free! Yeshua is the "WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE! except Him as Savior John 3:16! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.171.163.160 ( talk) 03:55, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
I have added some brief notes on healing , and how it was taught to me and is practiced here in New Zealand- marty. (discuss) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.0.48.125 ( talk) 07:20, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
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I noticed that the link for "Two Worlds", e.g. two worlds magazine was broken, I went to fix it when I ran into it being a protected page. -- 98.58.212.22 ( talk) 16:42, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
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I did a little research and though unable to find anything useful in archive.org, there appears to be a complete archive of the magazine going back to the 1800's located at The Two Worlds (IAPSOP) I have no idea what to do to make this change but thought I would share the ink here -- 98.58.212.22 ( talk) 16:42, 29 October 2023 (UTC)