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What is an 'accessible structure'?
"The tower has also been beset by health and safety issues, including large cracks beneath the observation deck and a malfunctioning external glass lift, and security concerns, with Fathers 4 Justice campaigners and base jumpers infiltrating the tower."
Just thought i would add that my father was one of the head engineers on this project, and the concerns about faulty concrete, cracks and possibility of the tower collapsing that were often portrayed in 'The News' (Portsmouth Newspaper) were largely propaganda and over exaggerated claims. As far as I am aware there are no doubts in the engineering fraternity about the strength of the design.
The tower also features innovative safety features such as a large 'bumper' type structure at the front to disperse the force of any large sea vessels that may collide with it.
Finally, one has to appreciate the extremely difficult conditions Mowlems were faced with when constructing the tower; the site area was incredibly small due to the towers tight positioning near the Gunwharf Quays shops and restaurants, the site was even overlooked by certain restaurants and night clubs on the Gunwharf complex, and on frequent visits to the site I was shown items such as shoes and hats that had fallen into the site area from nightclub goers above! (Hence the site was very difficult to secure and prevent determined activists or individuals from gaining access)
Zoo yorker 09:13, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
There are two things that could be added here. First, info on the issue of disabled access that apparently threatened to close the tower. AIUI this is because there is only one working lift and no other disabled access, breaking health and safety laws.
Also, I seem to remember reading that the tower was designed to collapse inland, in the event of a catastrophic failure. This is apparently so that ships will be safe. Mojo-chan 09:23, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Didn't someone base jump off the tower before it was opened?
In March 2004, Portsmouth Council leader Leo Madden resigned after a highly-critical report into the council's handling of the project and failure to exploit revenue opportunities such as the Millennium and Trafalgar200.
Any chance that this edit (by 82.18.84.212 on 16 September 2006 at 21:12) could be made any more encyclopaedic in nature? - Ballista 04:03, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
"Barry Smith, the project's legal advisor,"
would "the council's legal advisor" be a more accurate description?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/3570364.stm
If I made additional edits, I apologise - I thought I was adding a simple possessive apostrophe to "projects". Can someone with more experience of Wikipedia than me please reverse any damage I did? - David
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In view of all that, I have to fail the nomination. Overall, the article is clearly undeveloped, currently consisting of patches of information added by different users, failing on complying with important encyclopedic criteria and, apparently, not comprising the entirety of information that could be gathered at this level of detail. I believe it is still quite far away from the stage at which it could be considered a good GA nominee.
That said, I have the impression that there a few enthusiastic and knowledgeable editors around, and that necessary sources can be easily accessed, so I genuinely hope it won't be long until this interesting article will reach GA standards. I can't think of a really superb example to follow, but the Falkirk Wheel or Sunol Water Temple Good Articles, even with all their deficiencies, can serve as benchmarks. Bravada, talk - 18:27, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Please see the PDF used as a reference here:
http://www.spinnakertower.co.uk/images/cms/press-pdf/03.%20VAQAS%20Award.pdf
The idiot who made this thing disabled copy & paste so I can't quote it directly, but if you read it you will note that the 98% satisfaction rating (penultimate paragraph, page 1) states it's source as "research among visitors". It does not say who conducted the research, or under what conditions or when. Note that VAQAS did not conduct the survey.
If this claim is to be included the original research needs to be cited, and it needs to be credible (i.e. independent of Heritage, the towers managers, using a reasonable sample size over a reasonable period of time with credible questions etc). Mojo-chan 10:50, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Where in the media does it say that the Spinnaker Tower was struck by lightning? Please provide a source. Unisouth ( talk) 16:04, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Everything in this article is negative. What a beautiful tower! This article does not seem to be very well balanced and objective. Sounds like the English are out to get Spinnaker Tower. 70.160.143.163 ( talk) 17:57, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
As this is an article about a British structure, English-English should be employed. American editors should be sensitive to this and should not use uniquely American spellings. To this end I have changed "modeled" to "modelled" in the opening paragraph. 621PWC ( talk) 23:37, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
"Planning began in 2002, and construction began 2001, and was completed in mid-2005" - I don't know when planning started, but I imagine it was before they started construction. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.88.169.50 ( talk) 20:07, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
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What is an 'accessible structure'?
"The tower has also been beset by health and safety issues, including large cracks beneath the observation deck and a malfunctioning external glass lift, and security concerns, with Fathers 4 Justice campaigners and base jumpers infiltrating the tower."
Just thought i would add that my father was one of the head engineers on this project, and the concerns about faulty concrete, cracks and possibility of the tower collapsing that were often portrayed in 'The News' (Portsmouth Newspaper) were largely propaganda and over exaggerated claims. As far as I am aware there are no doubts in the engineering fraternity about the strength of the design.
The tower also features innovative safety features such as a large 'bumper' type structure at the front to disperse the force of any large sea vessels that may collide with it.
Finally, one has to appreciate the extremely difficult conditions Mowlems were faced with when constructing the tower; the site area was incredibly small due to the towers tight positioning near the Gunwharf Quays shops and restaurants, the site was even overlooked by certain restaurants and night clubs on the Gunwharf complex, and on frequent visits to the site I was shown items such as shoes and hats that had fallen into the site area from nightclub goers above! (Hence the site was very difficult to secure and prevent determined activists or individuals from gaining access)
Zoo yorker 09:13, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
There are two things that could be added here. First, info on the issue of disabled access that apparently threatened to close the tower. AIUI this is because there is only one working lift and no other disabled access, breaking health and safety laws.
Also, I seem to remember reading that the tower was designed to collapse inland, in the event of a catastrophic failure. This is apparently so that ships will be safe. Mojo-chan 09:23, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Didn't someone base jump off the tower before it was opened?
In March 2004, Portsmouth Council leader Leo Madden resigned after a highly-critical report into the council's handling of the project and failure to exploit revenue opportunities such as the Millennium and Trafalgar200.
Any chance that this edit (by 82.18.84.212 on 16 September 2006 at 21:12) could be made any more encyclopaedic in nature? - Ballista 04:03, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
"Barry Smith, the project's legal advisor,"
would "the council's legal advisor" be a more accurate description?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/3570364.stm
If I made additional edits, I apologise - I thought I was adding a simple possessive apostrophe to "projects". Can someone with more experience of Wikipedia than me please reverse any damage I did? - David
This is how the article, as of September 24, 2006, compares against the six good article criteria:
1. It is well written. In this respect:
2. It is factually accurate and verifiable. In this respect:
3. It is broad in its coverage. In this respect :
4. It follows the neutral point of view policy. In this respect:
5. It is stable, i.e. it does not change significantly from day to day and is not the subject of ongoing edit wars. This does not apply to vandalism and protection or semi-protection as a result of vandalism, or proposals to split/merge the article content.
6. It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic. In this respect:
In view of all that, I have to fail the nomination. Overall, the article is clearly undeveloped, currently consisting of patches of information added by different users, failing on complying with important encyclopedic criteria and, apparently, not comprising the entirety of information that could be gathered at this level of detail. I believe it is still quite far away from the stage at which it could be considered a good GA nominee.
That said, I have the impression that there a few enthusiastic and knowledgeable editors around, and that necessary sources can be easily accessed, so I genuinely hope it won't be long until this interesting article will reach GA standards. I can't think of a really superb example to follow, but the Falkirk Wheel or Sunol Water Temple Good Articles, even with all their deficiencies, can serve as benchmarks. Bravada, talk - 18:27, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Please see the PDF used as a reference here:
http://www.spinnakertower.co.uk/images/cms/press-pdf/03.%20VAQAS%20Award.pdf
The idiot who made this thing disabled copy & paste so I can't quote it directly, but if you read it you will note that the 98% satisfaction rating (penultimate paragraph, page 1) states it's source as "research among visitors". It does not say who conducted the research, or under what conditions or when. Note that VAQAS did not conduct the survey.
If this claim is to be included the original research needs to be cited, and it needs to be credible (i.e. independent of Heritage, the towers managers, using a reasonable sample size over a reasonable period of time with credible questions etc). Mojo-chan 10:50, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Where in the media does it say that the Spinnaker Tower was struck by lightning? Please provide a source. Unisouth ( talk) 16:04, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Everything in this article is negative. What a beautiful tower! This article does not seem to be very well balanced and objective. Sounds like the English are out to get Spinnaker Tower. 70.160.143.163 ( talk) 17:57, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
As this is an article about a British structure, English-English should be employed. American editors should be sensitive to this and should not use uniquely American spellings. To this end I have changed "modeled" to "modelled" in the opening paragraph. 621PWC ( talk) 23:37, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
"Planning began in 2002, and construction began 2001, and was completed in mid-2005" - I don't know when planning started, but I imagine it was before they started construction. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.88.169.50 ( talk) 20:07, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
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