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Anyone got a free version of the "Una Grande y Libre" flag of spain during that era? I think it is required, as the Second Republic has its flag there. If anyone has it, please add it to the article. [Zespris - 14/6/05]
The statement that Spain was "the second most backward country in Europe" in the Spanish miracle section is a major value judgment. Something statistical like that it had the second lowest literacy rate, or the second lowest GDP in Europe should be provided, if either of those is true. "Backward" is a thin and insupportable description. Dave 19:11, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
Note: This thread has been copied from talk:Catalan negationism. As the article was requested for delete on Dec,16 2005 WP:AfD, but the thread was deemed interesant and more suited for this article, is has been brought here. Comments are welcomed-- Wllacer 12:34, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
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I agree that this article should be highly improved. I think that creating an article about Catalan repression under Francoism would be more interesting and suitable. This could also be a complement to current Spain under Franco. The different revisionist ideas could also be included in that article and also their legacy nowadays. There is much bibliography and info about that topic on Internet, but of course, it's also an amazing huge task. Toniher 13:30, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
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I think much more can be said on this article, but expanding it risks taking losing NPOV 195.57.80.67 22:27, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
Should we really have the link for the documentary When Franco died we were 30? As far as I can see, the linked site has vey little information unless you are paying to view the film. - Jmabel | Talk 05:39, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
I think that Spain under Franco needs to be merged with the Spanish State article. One of the Spanish series links to the Spanish State article, while the History of Spain series links to Spain under Franco. Are these two articles not about the same thing? I would do the merger myself, but I don't really know how to do it. Suggestions? Oscabat 21:50, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
The chronological presentation makes it difficult to mention the gradual decolonization of Francoist Spain, contrasting it with the stubbornness of Portugal. -- Error ( talk) 19:43, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
In the section "Franco's regime", I've added a number of tags to statements that are vague, un-cited, or weasel-ish. I did not do this simply to be troublesome -- I honestly believe that these need to be addressed. -- 201.37.229.117 ( talk) 06:06, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
The Legacy section starts with the sentence "In Spain and abroad, the legacy of Franco remains controversial". There is severe POV concern with this sentence, and trying to justify the numerous human rights violations carried out during Franco's regime. Neo-Nazis admire Hitler, and not all of them are fringes, in this way we can continue to add this kind of structure in all articles about mass-murderers. Otolemur crassicaudatus ( talk) 17:32, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
WORLD WAR II
If I well remember, Franco besides sending soldiers to fight against Soviets, sent also soldiers to fight against Japan in the Philippines. Is it true? If it is the case, it should be mentioned as well. Thanks Arnaldo Mauri. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arnaldo Mauri ( talk • contribs) 06:06, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
Under the WWII section, it says ...Franco did send volunteer troops to fight communism joining the Axis armies on the Eastern Front against the Soviet Union.... For someone to make this statement, which I highly doubt is true, they should cite it at least. I feel that this wasnt the case, since communism wasn't a big thing during the second world war and this phrase compromises the neutrality of the article. I suggest changing the word communism into Russian Army or something in that sense. Also, there should be a comma before the word "joining". JasonDomination ( talk) 19:47, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
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Anyone got a free version of the "Una Grande y Libre" flag of spain during that era? I think it is required, as the Second Republic has its flag there. If anyone has it, please add it to the article. [Zespris - 14/6/05]
The statement that Spain was "the second most backward country in Europe" in the Spanish miracle section is a major value judgment. Something statistical like that it had the second lowest literacy rate, or the second lowest GDP in Europe should be provided, if either of those is true. "Backward" is a thin and insupportable description. Dave 19:11, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
Note: This thread has been copied from talk:Catalan negationism. As the article was requested for delete on Dec,16 2005 WP:AfD, but the thread was deemed interesant and more suited for this article, is has been brought here. Comments are welcomed-- Wllacer 12:34, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
<start of original thread>
I agree that this article should be highly improved. I think that creating an article about Catalan repression under Francoism would be more interesting and suitable. This could also be a complement to current Spain under Franco. The different revisionist ideas could also be included in that article and also their legacy nowadays. There is much bibliography and info about that topic on Internet, but of course, it's also an amazing huge task. Toniher 13:30, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
<end of original thread>
I think much more can be said on this article, but expanding it risks taking losing NPOV 195.57.80.67 22:27, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
Should we really have the link for the documentary When Franco died we were 30? As far as I can see, the linked site has vey little information unless you are paying to view the film. - Jmabel | Talk 05:39, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
I think that Spain under Franco needs to be merged with the Spanish State article. One of the Spanish series links to the Spanish State article, while the History of Spain series links to Spain under Franco. Are these two articles not about the same thing? I would do the merger myself, but I don't really know how to do it. Suggestions? Oscabat 21:50, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
The chronological presentation makes it difficult to mention the gradual decolonization of Francoist Spain, contrasting it with the stubbornness of Portugal. -- Error ( talk) 19:43, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
In the section "Franco's regime", I've added a number of tags to statements that are vague, un-cited, or weasel-ish. I did not do this simply to be troublesome -- I honestly believe that these need to be addressed. -- 201.37.229.117 ( talk) 06:06, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
The Legacy section starts with the sentence "In Spain and abroad, the legacy of Franco remains controversial". There is severe POV concern with this sentence, and trying to justify the numerous human rights violations carried out during Franco's regime. Neo-Nazis admire Hitler, and not all of them are fringes, in this way we can continue to add this kind of structure in all articles about mass-murderers. Otolemur crassicaudatus ( talk) 17:32, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
WORLD WAR II
If I well remember, Franco besides sending soldiers to fight against Soviets, sent also soldiers to fight against Japan in the Philippines. Is it true? If it is the case, it should be mentioned as well. Thanks Arnaldo Mauri. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arnaldo Mauri ( talk • contribs) 06:06, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
Under the WWII section, it says ...Franco did send volunteer troops to fight communism joining the Axis armies on the Eastern Front against the Soviet Union.... For someone to make this statement, which I highly doubt is true, they should cite it at least. I feel that this wasnt the case, since communism wasn't a big thing during the second world war and this phrase compromises the neutrality of the article. I suggest changing the word communism into Russian Army or something in that sense. Also, there should be a comma before the word "joining". JasonDomination ( talk) 19:47, 28 April 2009 (UTC)