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This article is essentially a POV directory of websites (see: What wikipedia is not. The "History" section is a wholly unreferenced essay and seems to be there as justification for the existance of the article. Mdbrownmsw 13:12, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
I have taken it off the list for unencyclopedic for now and have edited and added relevant references supporting the factual nature of this article. I will endevour to make the article as neutral as possible also and remove statements that cannot be backed up by actual references from credible sources. I will continue to add to this research over time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FrankStratford ( talk • contribs) 14:19, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
I would be happy to help in any way possible. I was thinking about merging Space and survival into this article because it does not really stand on its own very well. Sirstubby 13:49, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
I added the SETI Institute and The Planetary Society. Their IRS 990 forms indicate they are well funded space advocacy organizations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.59.228.221 ( talk) 16:26, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
There is an extreme amount of space advocacy material that could be included in this article... I am a space advocate, but I'd need a lot of help tempering the stuff down to wikipedia standards. Moonus111 ( talk) 22:24, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
For US based organizations it is easy to determine if the primary purpose is education or lobbying. Under IRS tax codes, 501c3 organizations are organized primarily to educate the public and can only do some lobbying. 501c4, 527, and political action committees are organized primarily for lobbying. I will move the 501c3 organizations to education unless anyone has an objection. Waters.Justin ( talk) 23:52, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
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The section on organizations "Actively involved" is missing what is arguably the most effective form of advocacy: actually building and economically-demonstrating a business case for space access.
No mention of SpaceX, Blue Origin, Virgin Galactic, or the many other smaller entities who are actually advancing space advocacy by privately-funded spaceflight technology development programs, advancing through many milestones (including flight), and in each case above, gaining a very large following by the broader public. In my view, this is an oversight, as it seems to be the single factor that has most goosed up public interest in spaceflight technology since 2000.
Just a partial list of these widely-followed advancements are the:
The point is, advocacy comes in many forms. The article could be improved by also including some of the doing rather than merely theorizing and political-agitating forms of advocacy. Cheers. N2e ( talk) 15:44, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
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I much enjoyed finding "Space Advocacy" addressed on WP. This is a new and important area so questions of notability and verification arise. There is little historical literature to cite for newly developing topics. I (and the editors) have difficulty with new topics which don't have a solid citation basis.
My personal interest in the topic is that I recently prepared a related article "[ Valley Interstellar Workshop (TVIW)]", which does not meet reviewer's standards for reliable third-party citations (I have about 50 citations, but insufficient third-party.
I welcome your suggestions, guidance, etc. Thanks, and best regards. David -- Fieldsde ( talk) 17:40, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
Dear fellow editors,
I wish to propose this article as a new sub-section. Thanks LOBOSKYJOJO ( talk) 02:00, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
US and Russia space exploration partnerships
An article published in the New York Times (December 18, 2018) mentioned that officials of the Russian Government hope to convince the United States in continuing combined piloted exploration ventures. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/11/world/europe/russia-space-us.html However, US President Donald Trump already suggested that the United States will only support the International Space Station (ISS) until 2025. The ISS remains a primary joint project until the present day. According to the Washington Post, the Trump administration plans to turn the ISS into a sort of orbiting real estate scheme that the private sector will manage. The basis of the Post was an internal document of the national Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2018/02/11/the-trump-administration-wants-to-turn-the-international-space-station-into-a-commercially-run-venture/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.7da2e8cfe35c The report further revealed President Trump wants to sell the Stake of the United States in the ISS allow private firms and organizations (Virgin Galactic and SpaceX) so these can use the Station for the companies’ exclusive projects. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-12/donald-trump-wants-to-sell-off-the-iss-what-does-that-mean/9422758 According to the latest news, the launch of the SpaceX rocket on December 5, 2018 was proof of how the private sector is helping stimulate the next generation of space exploration by the United States. https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-u-s-space-cooperation-falls-back-to-earth/29671845.html The NASA announced on December 13, 2018 that under its Space Policy Directive, the Agency plans to work with American corporations in designing and developing new as well as reusable systems for US astronauts to land on the moon. This may start on 2024 with the objective of sending a crew in 2028. https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-seeks-us-partners-to-develop-reusable-systems-to-land-astronauts-on-moon The NASA will employ a system with three independent elements for transferring, landing, and safe return of humans to and from the moon. The primary aspect is Gateway for launching roundtrip voyages to and from the lunar surface. https://www.nasa.gov/feature/questions-nasas-new-spaceship The lunar Gateway modules are scheduled for launching to the Moon starting 2022. The funding commitment remains impending. However, the first to be launched is the Power and Propulsion Element or PPE. https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2018/09/nasa-lunar-gateway-plans/ NASA will procure the PPE by way of a partnership between the private and public sectors. The baseline capabilities of PPE include generating 50 KW (electrical power) and 40 KW (electric propulsion system). NASA will award a single or more than one contract for the industry partnership. This will be for the development and demonstration of the PPE. https://spacenews.com/nasa-to-request-proposals-for-first-gateway-element-later-this-summer/
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This article is essentially a POV directory of websites (see: What wikipedia is not. The "History" section is a wholly unreferenced essay and seems to be there as justification for the existance of the article. Mdbrownmsw 13:12, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
I have taken it off the list for unencyclopedic for now and have edited and added relevant references supporting the factual nature of this article. I will endevour to make the article as neutral as possible also and remove statements that cannot be backed up by actual references from credible sources. I will continue to add to this research over time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FrankStratford ( talk • contribs) 14:19, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
I would be happy to help in any way possible. I was thinking about merging Space and survival into this article because it does not really stand on its own very well. Sirstubby 13:49, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
I added the SETI Institute and The Planetary Society. Their IRS 990 forms indicate they are well funded space advocacy organizations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.59.228.221 ( talk) 16:26, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
There is an extreme amount of space advocacy material that could be included in this article... I am a space advocate, but I'd need a lot of help tempering the stuff down to wikipedia standards. Moonus111 ( talk) 22:24, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
For US based organizations it is easy to determine if the primary purpose is education or lobbying. Under IRS tax codes, 501c3 organizations are organized primarily to educate the public and can only do some lobbying. 501c4, 527, and political action committees are organized primarily for lobbying. I will move the 501c3 organizations to education unless anyone has an objection. Waters.Justin ( talk) 23:52, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
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The section on organizations "Actively involved" is missing what is arguably the most effective form of advocacy: actually building and economically-demonstrating a business case for space access.
No mention of SpaceX, Blue Origin, Virgin Galactic, or the many other smaller entities who are actually advancing space advocacy by privately-funded spaceflight technology development programs, advancing through many milestones (including flight), and in each case above, gaining a very large following by the broader public. In my view, this is an oversight, as it seems to be the single factor that has most goosed up public interest in spaceflight technology since 2000.
Just a partial list of these widely-followed advancements are the:
The point is, advocacy comes in many forms. The article could be improved by also including some of the doing rather than merely theorizing and political-agitating forms of advocacy. Cheers. N2e ( talk) 15:44, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
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I much enjoyed finding "Space Advocacy" addressed on WP. This is a new and important area so questions of notability and verification arise. There is little historical literature to cite for newly developing topics. I (and the editors) have difficulty with new topics which don't have a solid citation basis.
My personal interest in the topic is that I recently prepared a related article "[ Valley Interstellar Workshop (TVIW)]", which does not meet reviewer's standards for reliable third-party citations (I have about 50 citations, but insufficient third-party.
I welcome your suggestions, guidance, etc. Thanks, and best regards. David -- Fieldsde ( talk) 17:40, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
Dear fellow editors,
I wish to propose this article as a new sub-section. Thanks LOBOSKYJOJO ( talk) 02:00, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
US and Russia space exploration partnerships
An article published in the New York Times (December 18, 2018) mentioned that officials of the Russian Government hope to convince the United States in continuing combined piloted exploration ventures. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/11/world/europe/russia-space-us.html However, US President Donald Trump already suggested that the United States will only support the International Space Station (ISS) until 2025. The ISS remains a primary joint project until the present day. According to the Washington Post, the Trump administration plans to turn the ISS into a sort of orbiting real estate scheme that the private sector will manage. The basis of the Post was an internal document of the national Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2018/02/11/the-trump-administration-wants-to-turn-the-international-space-station-into-a-commercially-run-venture/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.7da2e8cfe35c The report further revealed President Trump wants to sell the Stake of the United States in the ISS allow private firms and organizations (Virgin Galactic and SpaceX) so these can use the Station for the companies’ exclusive projects. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-12/donald-trump-wants-to-sell-off-the-iss-what-does-that-mean/9422758 According to the latest news, the launch of the SpaceX rocket on December 5, 2018 was proof of how the private sector is helping stimulate the next generation of space exploration by the United States. https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-u-s-space-cooperation-falls-back-to-earth/29671845.html The NASA announced on December 13, 2018 that under its Space Policy Directive, the Agency plans to work with American corporations in designing and developing new as well as reusable systems for US astronauts to land on the moon. This may start on 2024 with the objective of sending a crew in 2028. https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-seeks-us-partners-to-develop-reusable-systems-to-land-astronauts-on-moon The NASA will employ a system with three independent elements for transferring, landing, and safe return of humans to and from the moon. The primary aspect is Gateway for launching roundtrip voyages to and from the lunar surface. https://www.nasa.gov/feature/questions-nasas-new-spaceship The lunar Gateway modules are scheduled for launching to the Moon starting 2022. The funding commitment remains impending. However, the first to be launched is the Power and Propulsion Element or PPE. https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2018/09/nasa-lunar-gateway-plans/ NASA will procure the PPE by way of a partnership between the private and public sectors. The baseline capabilities of PPE include generating 50 KW (electrical power) and 40 KW (electric propulsion system). NASA will award a single or more than one contract for the industry partnership. This will be for the development and demonstration of the PPE. https://spacenews.com/nasa-to-request-proposals-for-first-gateway-element-later-this-summer/